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Chris Craig said:
Yeah it sucks that people take everyday words or phrases and turn them into a racist slur because once a slur always a slur. So if someone calls an African American a chocolate ice cream then its a slur and I can no longer say I want a chocolate ice cream out loud around an african american or they'll be like what the hell did you just say...you racist son of a bitch. Then I'll be like sorry I'll take the vanilla. Then they'll say, "you racist son of a bitch."
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My wife and daughter are highly susceptible to sunburns, so you best not order strawberry around me.
 
Chris Craig said:
Yeah it sucks that people take everyday words or phrases and turn them into a racist slur because once a slur always a slur. So if someone calls an African American a chocolate ice cream then its a slur and I can no longer say I want a chocolate ice cream out loud around an african american or they'll be like what the hell did you just say...you racist son of a bitch. Then I'll be like sorry I'll take the vanilla. Then they'll say, "you racist son of a bitch."
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Why do you have to be a son of a bitch @Chris Craig... you sexist son of a male dog! :bgrin:
 
Ok - my last word in this thread

This is a community- deal with the fact that we view the world very differently and try not to take everything so seriously, even the stuff that deserves to be taken seriously. If you find yourself too worked up, step away. Or start a thread on the homliest animals, old Punky Brewster episodes or the Best Dsmn Tea in Portland.

Peace be with you all.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
And in my mind, that focuses too much on the academia, and minimizes the human aspect. I think it's excessive for dviss to say that the term was "racism 101". But if I say something that he or anyone else tells me offends them at a racial level, I'll accept that without question, because I'm more concerned with being in right relationship with that person than with just "being right".
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But it's important, because I want to know if it's isolated to one person being offended by a word for their own personal reasons, or if it really is a widely regarded word with racist undertones. Pretty much everyone else in this thread has said that their previous interpretation of that word was as a slight towards rednecks. So for someone else to come in and say that it's insulting to black people, well, that's new information to me.

And then Dviss said that he wasn't saying that the word is generally racist, just that if you say the word to a black person it's racist.

Is it really so wrong to want to understand how to view this word moving forward?
 
Nate said:
So you’d rather let someone perpetuate retarded bullshit, than have an open conversation with him?

You think the convo might not go well or something?
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We are on page 18 and thats just this thread. Its not going well. It hasn't gone well because certain people refuse to take a hint.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
But it's important, because I want to know if it's isolated to one person being offended by a word for their own personal reasons, or if it really is a widely regarded word with racist undertones. Pretty much everyone else in this thread has said that their previous interpretation of that word was as a slight towards rednecks. So for someone else to come in and say that it's insulting to black people, well, that's new information to me.

And then Dviss said that he wasn't saying that the word is generally racist, just that if you say the word to a black person it's racist.

Is it really so wrong to want to understand how to view this word moving forward?
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It was news in a way to me too. But, African Americans have been unfairly labled as uneducated for a long time in american society so I get why he and all African Americans would take offense to that word.
 
Nate said:
So you’d rather let someone perpetuate retarded bullshit, than have an open conversation with him?

You think the convo might not go well or something?
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I'll start a conversation. Usually something along the lines of "Help me understand"--not for the purpose of trying to defend my position, but simply for the goal of knowing where the other is coming from. Once I have a handle on that, then I'll probably respond with something to the effect of, "This is what I'm hearing, and I think I get where you're coming from. In contrast, how I see it is..." The goal being for both of us to understand the other, even if we end up disagreeing in the end.

I had a conversation identical to that just yesterday.
 
Further said:
Ok - my last word in this thread

This is a community- deal with the fact that we view the world very differently and try not to take everything so seriously, even the stuff that deserves to be taken seriously. If you find yourself too worked up, step away. Or start a thread on the homliest animals, old Punky Brewster episodes or the Best Dsmn Tea in Portland.

Peace be with you all.
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Take your "peace" and shove it, @Further!!
 
Also, I'm going to point out that none of you are real people to me. You're an online persona with opinions and beliefs. I don't know anything about you personally, and I don't really want to know anything. I don't care what race you are, or what age, or sex, or anything. I just want to debate topics and opinions. That, to me, is the whole point of a forum. If I wanted friends or relationships I would do it in person. I already have to be careful of what I say and to whom in the real world. Hell, I have to be careful what I say on facebook. I don't have to be careful what I say on here. The shroud of anonymity allows me to have the conversations that I want and the opinions that I want without fear of reprisal, so if I go after your opinion it's because that's why I'm here. I love to debate. I love to trade facts. I don't hold grudges. That's why I usually only attack posts, not posters. If I think your opinion is wrong, I'm going to dispute it. Plain and simple. I don't care if it hurts your feelings. Maybe I'm an asshole, but that's why I'm here..... so I can be an asshole.
 
Nate said:
This is what I’ve been gathering.

Dviss is a loud, angry, black man; so it’s ok for him to say racist stuff, hat might offend a lot of people.

BUT

I’m one of those more edumacated h’white folk, so I’m held to a higher moral standard.

Is that what’s going on?
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See this is what I’m talking about bro...... how can you type this? How do you actually take the time to put this out there damn well knowing this is not being constructive to the situation. Knowing this is only making shit worse. This has to be just a game to you. No wonder shit is so tense in this country now. There is no compassion for those different than us.....
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Is it really so wrong to want to understand how to view this word moving forward?
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Not at all. Just giving you my viewpoint, that in a situation like that, if you come at the questioning in such a manner as to suggest that the other person is responsible to prove their perspective, then it won't go well. Not saying that was your intention, but I would say that's how it read to me.

Just my opinion.
 
riverman said:
if it offends dviss.....that's enough truth to accept it...move on
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Wait, what?

So if a word offends me, people should stop saying it?

Not saying he is, in this instance, but maybe someone is just overly sensitive?

Looking up the word on urban dictionary and its origin, there is nothing about it being used as a racial term. It's about making a mistake and using the word to imply a lack of education towards someone....anyone. Someone who takes it any other way, seems to be there own problem. No one should have to alter their term because someone took it in a way it was never intended.

My 3 cents
 
Nate said:
As long as we can all agree, that we’re just letting someone openly be a hateful person.

Thank you for admitting that he says racist shit though.
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Hate is a strong term. One I almost never use.

The only thing I hate is a racist. And I really feel more sorrow than hatred for them because their minds are small. But you like to attribute that word to me, simply because I call racism out.

It's a defense mechanism.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Wait, what?

So if a word offends me, people should stop saying it?

Not saying he is, in this instance, but maybe someone is just overly sensitive?

Looking up the word on urban dictionary and its origin, there is nothing about it being used as a racial term. It's about making a mistake and using the word to imply a lack of education towards someone....anyone. Someone who takes it any other way, seems to be there own problem. No one should have to alter their term because someone took it in a way it was never intended.

My 3 cents
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I'm not saying that. But MFs need to read context.
 
dviss1 said:
Hate is a strong term. One I almost never use.

The only thing I hate is a racist. And I really feel more sorrow than hatred for them because their minds are small. But you like to attribute that word to me, simply because I call racism out.

It's a defense mechanism.
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Perceived racism
 
dviss1 said:
Truth. Only one person in here, as a FUCKING, 6 Year old, had an ashtray dumped their head and been told they were gonna go to prison when they grow up.


Dog, I really want someone to quote thus so called hate I "spew"
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To be honest, this was not directed at you. I’m sorry if you thought it was. I was talking about the 4 or 5 on here who regardless of topic come at everybody with different opinions than there’s.
 
This thread is so off topic now, can we please just go back to complaining about me?
 
HCP said:
To be honest, this was not directed at you. I’m sorry if you thought it was. I was talking about the 4 or 5 on here who regardless of topic come at everybody with different opinions than there’s.
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Regardless of topic they don't just fall in line with what is acceptable to you?
 
Nate said:
As long as we can all agree, that we’re just letting someone openly be a hateful person.

Thank you for admitting that he says racist shit though.
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Nothing I've said is racist. What I see is a few butthurt white People in here who don't like to be called on their shit. You're one of them.

And you know FUCKING WELL why you typed what you did just like @cippy does, just like @rasheedfan2005 knows why he brought up KFC.

YOU ALL KNOW WHY BUT WANNA PLAY STUPIDLY SMART.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Also, I'm going to point out that none of you are real people to me. You're an online persona with opinions and beliefs. I don't know anything about you personally, and I don't really want to know anything. I don't care what race you are, or what age, or sex, or anything. I just want to debate topics and opinions. That, to me, is the whole point of a forum. If I wanted friends or relationships I would do it in person. I already have to be careful of what I say and to whom in the real world. Hell, I have to be careful what I say on facebook. I don't have to be careful what I say on here. The shroud of anonymity allows me to have the conversations that I want and the opinions that I want without fear of reprisal, so if I go after your opinion it's because that's why I'm here. I love to debate. I love to trade facts. I don't hold grudges. That's why I usually only attack posts, not posters. If I think your opinion is wrong, I'm going to dispute it. Plain and simple. I don't care if it hurts your feelings. Maybe I'm an asshole, but that's why I'm here..... so I can be an asshole.
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Shit, I thought we were all friends.
 
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