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It's being considered by Silver. If there were no conferences this year, right now we'd be the 7th seed with HCA over 10th seeded Memphis. Discuss.
 
I like the idea. No sense in letting shitty teams that can't even must a .500 record into the playoffs when potentially two 48-win teams miss the playoffs. That's garbage.
 
Would never work. You need conferences one way or another especially for the playoffs, mainly because I wouldn't wanna have to play Miami in a 2nd round series... could you imagine the travel? Realignment is what needs to be done.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I like the idea. No sense in letting shitty teams that can't even must a .500 record into the playoffs when potentially two 48-win teams miss the playoffs. That's garbage.
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Only one potential 48 win team is missing playoffs this year. Minnesota can't get there.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Would never work. You need conferences one way or another especially for the playoffs, mainly because I wouldn't wanna have to play Miami in a 2nd round series... could you imagine the travel? Realignment is what needs to be done.
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Why do you need conferences? You would just play every team about three times. No conference needed. 1 seed plays 16 seed.
 
I thought he was considering eliminating divisions not conferences.
 
KingSpeed said:
Why do you need conferences? You would just play every team about three times. No conference needed. 1 seed plays 16 seed.
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I still think travel would suck. Especially for us... We would have to do SO many east coast road trips and I REALLY wouldn't wanna have to play east teams in the playoffs until the Finals. The playoffs would take as long as the Finals do for every series with days off in between.
 
Why does the schedule have to be balanced? The time thing for the playoffs would blow but trim round one back to best of five and most east coast teams will be gone by the second round anyway...
 
Just for SnG's this is a 1 vs 16 format currently.

1. SA vs 16. Minny
2. OKC vs 15. Washington
3. LAC vs 14. Brooklyn
4. Miami vs 13. Chicago
5. Indy vs 12. Toronto
6. Houston vs 11. Phoenix
7. Portland vs 10. Grizzlies
8. GS vs 9. Dallas
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Just for SnG's this is a 1 vs 16 format currently.

1. SA vs 16. Minny
2. OKC vs 15. Washington
3. LAC vs 14. Brooklyn
4. Miami vs 13. Chicago
5. Indy vs 12. Toronto
6. Houston vs 11. Phoenix
7. Portland vs 10. Grizzlies
8. GS vs 9. Dallas
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Love that!
 
Maybe a 12-team playoff where teams 1-4 sit out round one?
 
I'm on the fence about the idea. What I would like is having western conf teams all west of the Mississippi and east coast teams all east of it. I also thought, why not get rid of divisions and have 4 conferences, SE, SW, NE, NW. Getting rid of conferences altogether would hurt ticket sales in small markets. I think getting rid of the luxury tax and having a hard cap should be looked at with extra bonus money built in for incentives. Extra money coming from wins, health, team success, etc. I would also like to see a baseball sort of minor league situation for the D league and no restrictions for calling guys up or sending guys down. Each team having their own D league and if you want Murphy on the Blazers you can call him up and send Crabbe down for as long as you like. Essentially putting all D league players on possible roster spots without waiving or signing them offseason.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
The playoffs would take as long as the Finals do for every series with days off in between.
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If they did 2-3-2 in each series, with one off day between same-site games and two off days when traveling, a seven-game series would max out at 15 days. Max 1 day off after a seven game series, and a team could max out at 28 games in 63 days from first round game 1 to finals game 7. Miami played 23 games in 60 days last year.

All this to say, it wouldn't necessarily be the logistical nightmare you suggest.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Maybe a 12-team playoff where teams 1-4 sit out round one?
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Like the NFL. Nice.

Maybe the NBA could become similar to the NFL...

Two new conferences, 6 new divisions...

National Basketball Conference:

West: Lakers, Blazers, Kings, Jazz, and Nuggets

North: Knicks, 76ers, Raptors, Pacers, and Bucks

South: Spurs, Rockets, Hawks, Magic, and Hornets

American Basketball Conference

West: Clippers, Warriors, Suns, 'Wolves, and Thunder

North: Nets, Clippers, Cavs, Bulls, and Pistons

South: Heat, Pelicans, Mavs, Grizzlies, and Wizards


Then reduce the season to 70 games play your divisional rivals 4x each and every other team twice.
 
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How about keeping the Conferences, but any team with less than a .500 record gets bumped by a team from the other conference having a better record? Under that scenario, Charlotte & Atlanta would get bumped by Phoenix & Minnesota, but they'd have to play in the Eastern Conference bracket.
 
Here's the reason why it wouldn't work.... if there was only 2 teams on the east coast in the playoffs, that would kill viewership I think.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Here's the reason why it wouldn't work.... if there was only 2 teams on the east coast in the playoffs, that would kill viewership I think.
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True dat. The east coast loves their shitty under-.500 basketball teams.
 
Maybe have a D-League playoff and the top four teams play the bottom four teams for the chance to replace them in the playoffs? Charlotte versus Boise!
 
BlazerCaravan said:
True dat. The east coast loves their shitty under-.500 basketball teams.
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Well, there's just so many people on the east coast, many of whom do not come from a city with a team, so they follow one of those shitty under-.500 basketball teams. It's somewhat like Portland with the Mariners and Shehawks.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Like the NFL. Nice.

Maybe the NBA could become similar to the NFL...

Two new conferences, 6 new divisions...

National Basketball Conference:

West: Lakers, Blazers, Kings, Jazz, and Nuggets

North: Knicks, 76ers, Raptors, Pacers, and Bucks

South: Spurs, Rockets, Hawks, Magic, and Hornets

American Basketball Conference

West: Clippers, Warriors, Suns, 'Wolves, and Thunder

North: Nets, Clippers, Cavs, Bulls, and Pistons

South: Heat, Pelicans, Mavs, Grizzlies, and Wizards


Then reduce the season to 70 games play your divisional rivals 4x each and every other team twice.
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Reducing to 70 games would disrupt star comparisonto previous seasons. Durant would have no shot at catching Kareem. I think there should be a longer AS break but keep the season at 82 games.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, there's just so many people on the east coast, many of whom do not come from a city with a team, so they follow one of those shitty under-.500 basketball teams. It's somewhat like Portland with the Mariners and Shehawks.
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Portland gives so few fucks about either Seattle team... Was there even a riot in Portland when the Chickens won?
 
Get rid of divisions also. All teams face each other same amount.
 
Tough call. I think I'm for eliminating, but my mind could be changed. It just doesn't seem right that a team with a 43% winning percentage gets in (Atlanta/New York/maybe Cleveland) but a 60% winning percentage does not (Memphis/Phoenix/Dallas).

I don't think travel is that big of a deal anymore, especially when both teams involved have to travel the distances. This is one of the reasons why they changed the Finals back to the 2-2-1-1-1 format.
 
I do not see the NBA getting rid of conferences. I think it would be a harder sell for the semifinals to be named something different than the conference finals. The NCAA splits its field of 64 into four so that it has multiple #1's and a low of 16. Do you really want to sell an #3 vs #14 vs being able to call it an #2 vs 7?

Giving the elite teams a first round bye is also not going to happen. The NBA does not have much to compete with during playoff time. I do not think they want their best teams taking a break.

Divisions really mean little and have no problem getting rid of them.
 
I'm in total favor of eliminating conferences. It's a stupid arbitrary separation that often prevents the two best teams from competing and allows shitty teams into the playoffs. I think the travel thing is a bit over-blown. Teams go on Eastern road trips anyway and travel around the same geographic area.

It would not be a problem for the playoffs? You'd just seed teams 1-16 and the best two teams make it to the finals.
 
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