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riverman said:
I don't know that much about her...I'm guessing you don't either. She is a progressive though which seems to bother you more than anything else.
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Depends. Is it good progressive? Or you have to call people by their pronouns progressive?
 
barfo said:
Feel free to do that if you like. I don't mind.

Suggest you do it in a Schwarzenegger voice: "I'll be black..."

barfo
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But that would be dumb and pretty insulting to people who are majority African I believe at least.
 
Cippy91 said:
I just didn’t know this many people really loved Elizabeth warren, it’s quite fascinating.
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For my part, I think she's well-suited to be senator from MA, and she's done some good things there (CFPB as a prime example).
I'm not enthusiastic about her running for president, however. Maybe she can convince me and enough others, not sure.

barfo
 
Cippy91 said:
But that would be dumb and pretty insulting to people who are majority African I believe at least.
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And you'd have a problem with that?

Have you seen your posts???

barfo
 
barfo said:
And you'd have a problem with that?

Have you seen your posts???

barfo
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Yeah i do because I’m aware my posts aren’t insulting to any race but once again you misunderstand that constantly because you’re trying so hard to find a way to spin what I say negatively when in fact none of it s negative at all. It’s just my take on what is racist to me and the overall meaning
 
barfo said:
For my part, I think she's well-suited to be senator from MA, and she's done some good things there (CFPB as a prime example).
I'm not enthusiastic about her running for president, however. Maybe she can convince me and enough others, not sure.

barfo
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I wasn’t talking about her politics, I have no clue what they are. I’m more so referring to people coming to her aid as if she’s 100 percent native and obviously looking the part
 
Here's a news flash ….not all native americans look alike..nor do people from any ethnic background....my maternal grandmother is half Lakota Sioux, half French Canadian....I have blue eyes and blonde hair...stereotyping people because of appearance is ridiculous.
 
riverman said:
Here's a news flash ….not all native americans look alike..nor do people from any ethnic background....my maternal grandmother is half Lakota Sioux, half French Canadian....I have blue eyes and blonde hair...stereotyping people because of appearance is ridiculous.
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Obviously. However warren isn’t close to half native. Nobody is stereotyping, calm yourself river
 
If an "all white" man is married to an "all native American" woman, should he not be offended if he hears a disparaging remark about his wife's race?
 
Cippy91 said:
I wasn’t talking about her politics, I have no clue what they are. I’m more so referring to people coming to her aid as if she’s 100 percent native and obviously looking the part
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I have never seen one person post anything remotely close to saying she was 100% Native American. There in lies your problem, you tend to use your extreme opinions to try and make your point even though your extremes are obviously false in a lot of cases.
 
CupWizier said:
I have never seen one person post anything remotely close to saying she was 100% Native American. There in lies your problem, you tend to use your extreme opinions to try and make your point even though your extremes are obviously false in a lot of cases.
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I’m not saying anybody said she’s 100 percent. I’m saying that’s what some of you act like. She’s not even 50 percent. Honestly probably not even 5. But hey it is what it is.
 
Cippy91 said:
I’m not saying anybody said she’s 100 percent. I’m saying that’s what some of you act like. She’s not even 50 percent. Honestly probably not even 5. But hey it is what it is.
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Act like? NOBODY is acting like that is the case. Show me examples. You tend to use extremes to try and make a point and why many of your points fail.
 
CupWizier said:
Act like? NOBODY is acting like that is the case. Show me examples. You tend to use extremes to try and make a point and why many of your points fail.
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Well maybe it’s because you are defending her as if it’s just so racist. She’s a white lady with the tiniest amount of native in her yet it’s jut so racist. It’s confusing. I don’t think my points fail, I think you fail to actually read and understand what I’m saying because you think I’m in the defense of trump which isn’t the case at all. I just don’t think it’s a racist thing to say. When it was said, it seems as if it was meant in a way like “oh yeah right as if your native” because she appears so white and it’s still in question. If she really wanted to prove she was so native, there would be actual dna tests done. Just spit in a thing and send it off for tests. Not difficult. It’s easy to be offended in life. I’m sorry I choose not to be.
 
Cippy91 said:
Well maybe it’s because you are defending her as if it’s just so racist. She’s a white lady with the tiniest amount of native in her yet it’s jut so racist. It’s confusing. I don’t think my points fail, I think you fail to actually read and understand what I’m saying because you think I’m in the defense of trump which isn’t the case at all. I just don’t think it’s a racist thing to say. When it was said, it seems as if it was meant in a way like “oh yeah right as if your native” because she appears so white and it’s still in question. If she really wanted to prove she was so native, there would be actual dna tests done. Just spit in a thing and send it off for tests. Not difficult. It’s easy to be offended in life. I’m sorry I choose not to be.
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lol. that's funny. So you are basing everything on what she looks like. Explain why one twin looks white and the other looks black in this picture below. Your unscientific method is extremely flawed.

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CupWizier said:
lol. that's funny. So you are basing everything on what she looks like. Explain why one twin looks white and the other looks black in this picture below. Your unscientific method is extremely flawed.

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Unscientific? This coming from somebody who probably believes there are more than two genders. Anyways, you’re missing the point completely. This is a waste of time at this point. If you wanna believe Elizabeth warren is as native as those in warm springs then go right ahead.
 
Cippy91 said:
Unscientific? This coming from somebody who probably believes there are more than two genders. Anyways, you’re missing the point completely. This is a waste of time at this point. If you wanna believe Elizabeth warren is as native as those in warm springs then go right ahead.
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Please show me where I ever alluded to that. You throw out a lot of accusations of what posters allegedly say, but yet never offer up any quotes. I really couldn't care less if and how much of a Native American Elizabeth Warren is. Quit trying to speak for others as that's where you often fail. You are also the one on multiple occasions brought up her looks as a reason she can't be Native American and I just offered up some evidence that looks is not very scientific. Now explain why the two infant twins are complete opposites when they came from the same parents.
 
CupWizier said:
Please show me where I ever alluded to that. You throw out a lot of accusations of what posters allegedly say, but yet never offer up any quotes. I really couldn't care less if and how much of a Native American Elizabeth Warren is. Quit trying to speak for others as that's where you often fail. You are also the one on multiple occasions brought up her looks as a reason she can't be Native American and I just offered up some evidence that looks is not very scientific. Now explain why the two infant twins are complete opposites when they came from the same parents.
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Never said she couldn’t be. Sounds like you’re the accuser. I just said she’s probably less than 5 percent. That makes a difference in this stupid thread. You never alluded to the multiple gender thing, I’m just assuming it.
 
Cippy91 said:
Never said she couldn’t be. Sounds like you’re the accuser. I just said she’s probably less than 5 percent. That makes a difference in this stupid thread. You never alluded to the multiple gender thing, I’m just assuming it.
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You toss out accusations and then are asked to show examples and then you dodge the questions and instead deflect. Pretty weak rebuttal.
 
CupWizier said:
You make assumptions and toss out accusations and then can't back it up when asked to. Not very scientific and with that, I am done with you in this thread as pulling your strings is no longer any fun. Good bye.
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You literally said the same things three times in a row and I just told you I assumed it meaning yeah there was no evidence in what I accused you of only the party you affiliate with. Scientific? Lol. Wow. This OT section has some quirky ones in it
 
Cippy91 said:
You literally said the same things three times in a row and I just told you I assumed it meaning yeah there was no evidence in what I accused you of only the party you affiliate with. Scientific? Lol. Wow. This OT section has some quirky ones in it
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One more time. What party do I affiliate with? I have posted it many times in this forum. Once again you ASSume something and prove you have no clue. Good bye.
 
CupWizier said:
One more time. What party do I affiliate with? I have posted it many times in this forum. Once again you ASSume something and prove you have no clue. Good bye.
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Democrat. Left.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Just gonna say, the reason it's racist is because (as you said) it's derogatory, and it's based solely on a racial connection.

Hypothetically, let's say instead he called her "O'Leary", as a reference to the football coach George O'Leary who lied on his resume about his college education, and subsequently lost a job he had been given at Notre Dame. In that situation, he would be using "O'Leary" as a derogatory term, but it would not be anti-Irish racism, because the connection was based on a comparison of Warren (presumably) lying about her heritage with O'Leary lying about his education.

In this case, the only connection Warren has to Pocahontas is Native-American heritage, and the only reason Pocahontas is being referenced is because Trump is calling Warren's heritage into question, so it is clear that he is invoking Pocahontas' name solely as a race-based pejorative.
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Mic DROP.
 
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