Politics Enough with the Hillary cult: Her admirers ignore reality, dream of worshipping a queen

[Denny Crane]

Sez me.

Election results and demographics aren't the same thing.

Statewide elections and presidential elections aren't the same thing.

Off-year elections and presidential year elections aren't the same thing.

barfo

The voters' will.

SMH

 

[Denny Crane]

This is why Bernie is insane. The red line is realistic.

http://fiscalfactcheck.crfb.org/analysis-of-the-sanders-single-payer-offsets/

 

[Minstrel]

Good analysis here of what the state of the general election looks like right now (on the assumption that Clinton does, in fact, secure the Democratic nomination). Obviously, things can change over 6 months.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/upshot/trump-would-have-uphill-battle-against-clinton.html

 

[Denny Crane]

John King on CNN saying if Trump wins Ohio and Michigan, he wins the election.

And Florida.

 

[Denny Crane]

I started with 2012 actual results. Flipped 3 states.

Latest polls in those 3 states:
Colorado Trump 48.3 Clinton 46.3
Florida Trump 43.0 Clinton 46.7 (barely outside MOE)
Ohio Trump 42.2 Clinton 46.0 (latest is Clinton +3, MOE is 3.2)

Trump needs to flip 8 more EVs to win under this scenario.

Iowa, 6 EVs Trump 43 Clinton 43.8
Nevada 6 EVs Trump 45 Clinton 48.9
Minnesota 10 EVs Trump 40.4 linton 45.9

 

[barfo]

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I started with 2012 actual results. Flipped 3 states.

Latest polls in those 3 states:
Colorado Trump 48.3 Clinton 46.3
Florida Trump 43.0 Clinton 46.7 (barely outside MOE)
Ohio Trump 42.2 Clinton 46.0 (latest is Clinton +3, MOE is 3.2)

Trump needs to flip 8 more EVs to win under this scenario.

Iowa, 6 EVs Trump 43 Clinton 43.8
Nevada 6 EVs Trump 45 Clinton 48.9
Minnesota 10 EVs Trump 40.4 linton 45.9

I thought you were saying it was going to be a Trump landslide? Seems like you are having trouble even coming up with a scenario where he wins.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

No, you made it up that I said or believe it's a trump landslide.

I had no trouble coming up with a scenario he wins.

Three states very close he can flip. 3 more only a tad less close he can win.

 

[barfo]

No, you made it up that I said or believe it's a trump landslide.

Didn't make it up, but I may have misremembered. I apologize for mischaracterizing your position.

I had no trouble coming up with a scenario he wins.

Three states very close he can flip. 3 more only a tad less close he can win.

Heck, I'm only 270 votes from being president myself. Just need to get on the ballot.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Yep, I'll mention it whatever it is.

And yet, it changed direction today and you didn't mention it.

I do see a trend.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

6.5.

She's killing it.

 

[barfo]

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6.5.

She's killing it.

Being ahead by 6.5% is a bad thing now?

Oh, right, the polls are skewed. I should remember that each time I see President Romney on TV.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

As of 2013, an infamous hacker is known to have read Hiliar's emails sent to/from her server. And even earlier emails, dating back to 2005. This link below is dated prior to the revelation of Hiliar's crimes.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/sidney-blumenthal-email-hack-687341

The hacker claims he hacked into the server itself, and it was easy.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ifer-breached-clinton-server-it-was-easy.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hacker-guccifer-i-got-inside-hillary-clinton-s-server-n568206

As someone who's done his share of internet security, I can vouch that using the tools he mentions are exactly how hackers work.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/u...said-to-show-no-evidence-of-hacking.html?_r=0

NYTimes apologizes for Hiliar claiming the server security logs show no sign of hacking. What morons.

The first thing a hacker does is wipe out or replace the security logs.

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154709/171/

Another type of rootkit is at the kernel level. These are harder to find and remove because one can't trust even the kernel on which the rootkit has been installed on. They have the ability to delete logs to hide the intruders tracks and even replace system calls.

...

Another technique which a rootkit can use is to delete a log entry on the system so there will be no log entry of the attackers activities. Also, to hide the attackers tracks the rootkit can replace standard Unix programs such as ps to not show the processes which the rootkit is running.


Another of her string of serial lies debunked.

 

[Denny Crane]

Being ahead by 6.5% is a bad thing now?

Oh, right, the polls are skewed. I should remember that each time I see President Romney on TV.

barfo

6.5 is 6.5. It's hardly showing she's entitled to win.

 

[barfo]

6.5 is 6.5. It's hardly showing she's entitled to win.

Entitled?

That's a weird statement.

Why would any polling average show entitlement?

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The hacker claims he hacked into the server itself, and it was easy.

As someone who's done his share of internet security, I can vouch that using the tools he mentions are exactly how hackers work.

So you know enough about hacking to also claim to have hacked Hillary's server. I'll call Fox News and see how much they'll pay to interview you.

 

[Denny Crane]

So you know enough about hacking to also claim to have hacked Hillary's server. I'll call Fox News and see how much they'll pay to interview you.

I know how to defend against certain attacks.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I know how to defend against certain attacks.

You know enough to convince Fox News that you hacked Hillary. You could be famous!

 

[Denny Crane]

Suuuuuure.

The hacker isn't making up the techniques, and he is in jail for hacking.

I don't think he's for Trump. I agree with him that Hiliar is a clown. The NYTimes piece is embarrassingly bad for journalism that's supposed to be high standard.

 

[barfo]

Suuuuuure.

The hacker isn't making up the techniques, and he is in jail for hacking.

So if not hacking, what is it that you are in for?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

So if not hacking, what is it that you are in for?

barfo

No comment.

 

[Stevenson]

"Some of Hillary Clinton's closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have been interviewed by federal investigators as the FBI probe into the security of Clinton’s private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN.

The investigation is ongoing, but so far investigators haven't found evidence to prove Clinton willfully violated the law, the standard needed to bring charges, the U.S. officials say."

Boom.

Once again, much ado about nothing.

(OK, go ahead Denny and get the last word in, per usual.)

 

[Denny Crane]

Some. So far.

Key words.

Fizzle.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-deposition-plan-222801

Judge OKs deposition plan in Hillary Clinton email case
By Josh Gerstein

05/04/16 02:05 PM EDT (YESTERDAY)

A federal judge has approved a plan to take sworn testimony from former aides to Hillary Clinton about her use of a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.

U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order Wednesday approving the discovery plan, which was agreed to by the State Department and Judicial Watch, a conservative group that demanded Clinton's emails under the Freedom of Information Act.

"The circumstances surrounding approval of Mrs. Clinton’s use of clintonemail.com for official government business, as well as the manner in which it was operated, are issues that need to be explored in discovery to enable the Court to resolve, as a matter of law, the adequacy of the State Department’s search of relevant records in response to Judicial Watch’s FOIA request," Sullivan wrote in his 15-page order.

The eight-week period to complete the depositions will conclude in late June.

 

[Denny Crane]

Hiliar is innocent like OJ was.

Not technically guilty, right?

LOL

 

[barfo]

More like, she technically might be guilty, but the crime is akin to jaywalking.

Bill got a blowjob and lied about it. Maybe we need some more investigation of that too?

It's important!

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

NBC's take:

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...ides-over-email-investigation-sources-n568916

As for where the investigation stands, these officials say it is a long way from over.

FBI Director James Comey himself said recently that there's no deadline for finishing it. Asked if the Democratic National Convention would be such a deadline, he said no.

No conclusions have been reached about whether any laws were violated in setting up or using the system, the officials say.

 

[Denny Crane]

More like, she technically might be guilty, but the crime is akin to jaywalking.

Bill got a blowjob and lied about it. Maybe we need some more investigation of that too?

It's important!

barfo

How can the head of the entire state department not know what information is classified or not? Do you find it weak sauce lame excuse that she claims she didn't know?

If so, that speaks to her incompetence as Secretary of State.

Bill was guilty, paid $950K in fines and restitution and was disbarred. Must have been somewhat serious.

 

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[SlyPokerDog]

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Someone made a political meme thread for things like that.

And here I thought Denny was the only one who didn't understand what memes are.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/278220-five-ways-trump-will-attack-clinton

Five ways Trump will attack Clinton


'Crooked Hillary'

Trump’s branding of his rivals has been lethal so far.

His attacks against Jeb Bush for being “low energy” haunted the former Florida governor. Trump also counts “Little Marco” Rubio as a vanquished foe, and he has delighted in explaining to supporters that there is no “g” in “Lyin’ Ted” Cruz.

With “Crooked Hillary,” Trump has a nickname for his rival that could encompass decades of controversies surrounding Bill and Hillary Clinton, from Whitewater to foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation.

But the main focus here will likely be Clinton’s use of a personal email account and server as secretary of State.

Expect Trump to continue hammering Clinton as someone who has, for years, operated by her own set of rules and is above the laws that govern ordinary citizens.

Gen. David Petraeus will be a central figure in those attacks.

Petraeus was fined and sentenced to probation for sharing classified information with his biographer, Paula Broadwell, with whom he was also having an extramarital affair.

Trump has repeatedly argued that the investigation into whether Clinton’s home brew server exposed classified information is far worse than anything Petraeus was guilty of.