ESPN loves Swanigan

[Driew]

When I click that link in the OP I get an article about cricket

 

[SlyPokerDog]

When I click that link in the OP I get an article about cricket

Scroll down.

 

[Boob-No-More]

If this was baseball I'd be batting .1000

You are a true multi-sport star. You knowledge of baseball equals your knowledge of basketball.

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

You got all of that out of MM's post? Wow... I'm impressed.

It's crazy, but most of my thoughts are my own.

 

[andalusian]

You are a true multi-sport star. You knowledge of baseball equals your knowledge of basketball.

BNM

That is funny. Mean, but funny.

I am sure he meant 1.000 - and he is right. He originally told us that a deal is coming soon. Many a deal came and went since then. As long as they play professional basketball and trades are allowed, he will continue to bat 1.000 on that proclamation.

 

[Mediocre Man]

So, 10%?

Quality math skills

 

[Boob-No-More]

That is funny. Mean, but funny.

I am sure he meant 1.000 - and he is right. He originally told us that a deal is coming soon. Many a deal came and went since then. As long as they play professional basketball and trades are allowed, he will continue to bat 1.000 on that proclamation.

Sure, if you ignore the "soon" part. Unless we are defining soon on a geologic time scale.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

Save just a little bit of face. So when he starts balling you can have something to hold on to.

No. I took everyones word on him. Benefit of the doubt

 

[Mediocre Man]

Not sure I'd be bragging about getting it right 10% of the time.

Those damn decimals

Probably more accurate though

 

[Mediocre Man]

You are a true multi-sport star. You knowledge of baseball equals your knowledge of basketball.

BNM

Ya. I'd like to blame my kidney stones, but I just failed

 

[andalusian]

Sure, if you ignore the "soon" part. Unless we are defining soon on a geologic time scale.

This is a theory of relativity question right there. As Einstein once explained - if you spend an hour on a bench with a beautiful girl, time passes fast. If you spend an hour on a bench with the beautiful girl's father - time passes slow. MM trades with beautiful girls. Soon works.

 

[dviss1]

Nice article. We got really lucky with Swanigan.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1r9967316/nba-blazers-rookie-swanigan-flashes-high-motor

No we didn't. Neil targeted his guy and went and got him.

 

[blazerboy30]

Surprising how many of you get so easily trolled by MM.

 

[dviss1]

Scroll down.

Fixed:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19967316/nba-blazers-rookie-swanigan-flashes-high-motor

 

[dviss1]

"My motor is going to be the best in the NBA," Swanigan said. "That is my goal, that is what I want to be. You come watch Swanigan play, he is playing hard every night, just talking, just trying to win. That is the type of player I want to be and the legacy I want to leave."

 

[BBert]

"My motor is going to be the best in the NBA," Swanigan said. "That is my goal, that is what I want to be. You come watch Swanigan play, he is playing hard every night, just talking, just trying to win. That is the type of player I want to be and the legacy I want to leave."

The Dude IS a sweet talker.

 

[Nhawz]

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/12/...ghts-blazers-nba-summer-league-draymond-green

His nickname from here on out is "Balls!"

 

[BlazerWookee]

As do I..

Uh-oh. He's referring to himself in the third person...

 

[Scalma]

No we didn't. Neil targeted his guy and went and got him.

How exactly did Neil go and get him? By sitting at 26 and having him fall in his lap? How is luck not involved there?

 

[dviss1]

How exactly did Neil go and get him? By sitting at 26 and having him fall in his lap? How is luck not involved there?

Fall in his lap? Swanigan was an Early 2nd round prospect. Stop revising history.

 

[Boob-No-More]

How exactly did Neil go and get him? By sitting at 26 and having him fall in his lap? How is luck not involved there?

Remember back in February when CLE agreed to move the pick from the Varegao trade up by one year from 2018 too 2017...

Maybe Neil had his sights set on Swanigan at that time and planned to use the CLE pick to get him.

Or not.

BNM

 

[Binx]

No we didn't. Neil targeted his guy and went and got him.

GMs "target" players in every draft, but not all of them work out. We "targeted" Greg Oden, Sam Bowie and LaRue Martin, for example, and we didn't get lucky with any of them. So far, it appears that we got lucky with Swanigan.

 

[BlazerWookee]

As tired as the people who say the same when someone is disappointed in a player after a couple games. Serious question....Whats the difference?

A good motor and a willingness to bang can be fairly judged with a relatively small sample size.

 

[Scalma]

Fall in his lap? Swanigan was an Early 2nd round prospect. Stop revising history.

According to who NBA draft.net ? History says he was the first rounder, so maybe it's you that should stop trying to revise it.

 

[Sarni]

Remember back in February when CLE agreed to move the pick from the Varegao trade up by one year from 2018 too 2017...

Maybe Neil had his sights set on Swanigan at that time and planned to use the CLE pick to get him.

Or not.

BNM

Well to be honest I think it was Cleveland who approached us because they wanted to be able to trade 2019 pick that Atlanta wanted in exchange for Kyle Korver.

 

[Scalma]

The fact that you would argue that luck was not involved is just astounding to me it really is but hey you're always going to be right so you win.

 

[dviss1]

According to who NBA draft.net ? History says he was the first rounder, so maybe it's you that should stop trying to revise it.

Show me a mock that had him in the first round. I'll wait.

 

[Scalma]

Show me a mock that had him in the first round. I'll wait.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...cle/2017/06/15/2017-mock-draft-second-edition

But these mocks mean nothing theyre just opinions, shit you can go back on this very board and check my pre-draft arguments with bonesJones where I said that Id take Swanigan even higher than the end of the first

 

[dviss1]

http://www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...cle/2017/06/15/2017-mock-draft-second-edition

But these mocks mean nothing theyre just opinions, shit you can go back on this very board and check my pre-draft arguments with bonesJones where I said that Id take Swanigan even higher than the end of the first

People just don't make sense sometimes. You post two mock drafts one of which has us taking him at 26 and another have him going at 27... so again, how did Neil Target his guy? He went and took on a contract to get another first-round pick and got the guy that he wanted. Any suggestion to the contrary in my opinion is subjective.

 

[Scalma]

People just don't make sense sometimes. You post two mock drafts one of which has us taking him at 26 and another have him going at 27... so again, how did Neil Target his guy? He went and took on a contract to get another first-round pick and got the guy that he wanted. Any suggestion to the contrary in my opinion is subjective.

1. You asked for the mocks. I gave them to you.

2. Now you pivot to something else to the point where I don't even know what exactly you're arguing about anymore. Neil didn't go to Cleveland asking for this years pick. Cleveland needed it for the Korver trade. And even if Neil initiated it, how would he have known where exactly Swanigan would be drafted 5 months later? Does he control every teams draft board?

3. Teams target multiple players. Without getting into how I know, teams have a cluster of about five players they like that fall in the range of their picks. They order them. Swanigan very well could've been first on that list for the 26th pick, but he wasn't the only one on it, that's for sure. Teams don't know exactly where players will go, but they make educated guesses. Guesses. Meaning luck can and usually is involved. For you to say it isn't is naive, especially when Neil made no actual move on draft night to secure the guy. He got lucky his plan A (most likely his plan A) worked.

4. This discussion was a huge waste of time, don't know why I even went into it this much, but I also don't really understand your need to constantly check people on this forum, and usually for the smallest, most insignificant things.