ESPN Reports: POR MIN working on deal 2 1st and vet SF from another team?

[Pinwheel1]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

The player has to be either very good or very cheap, otherwise why would Olshey agree to it?

 

[Duckhook]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

Consider the source (Bleacher Report):

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A reported three-team trade (as reported by Darren Wolfson of ESPN Radio, via blogs.trailblazers.com) between the 76ers, Wolves and Blazers, would send Nicolas Batum to Minnesota, Derrick Williams to Philly and Iguodala to Portland.

In theory it works out for everyone. Philly gets a rebuilding piece in former No. 2 overall pick Derrick Williams, Minnesota gets the guy they've coveted all summer in Batum and Portland gets someone ready to help them win right now.

There's only one problem: The Blazers aren't interested in such a trade. They'd rather keep Batum.

This makes absolutely no sense to me. Nicolas Batum is getting a big contract on potential alone, Andre Iguodala is a star right now.

Batum is younger, but Iguodala is still very much in his prime at 28 years old. Price isn't an issue either, as Batum is expected to receive a contract exceeding $50 million.

As a general rule, I don't think it's smart to pay 98 percent of the price for 70 percent of the player.

When Portland comes to their senses, this could be a good move for everyone involved. A Portland core of LaMarcus Aldridge, Iguodala, Damian Lillard and Meyers Leonard could be competitive for at least the next five years.

 

[jlprk]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

The Memphis pick is lottery protected, per my link, so it sucks. Korver is long-since done and buried. I'd want a better SF.

 

[ironcrotch]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

I don't think I've seen anyone reputable mention Iggy as the other SF, I would think that deal happens if it's proposed to Olshey.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

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If the deal is for Korver, it makes more sense to force Batum's agent to choose between us matching or the QO.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

Iggy has one year left plus a PLAYER option the following year. Thus the reason for the 2 picks I guess.
Not thrilled but not bad if true.

 

[illmatic99]

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Is Nic the first guy in recent history, where the player wants to leave PDX on his own?

Gerald wanted to stay here, same with Dre/Camby/Trout/LA/BRoy/etc.

 

[roywonder07]

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Rudy, seems like all the Euros have douchebag agents.

 

[HailBlazers]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

RUDY GAY!!

Pretty much the only comparable guy I'd swap Batum for.

Love me some Iggy, but due to age and style would have to decline.

 

[jlprk]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

Is Nic the first guy in recent history, where the player wants to leave PDX on his own?

Gerald wanted to stay here, same with Dre/Camby/Trout/LA/BRoy/etc.

Europeans like Sergio did not flourish in McMillan's slowpoke system and returned to Europe.

 

[Chris Hawkey]

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Whoever it is, it's not going to be an upgrade over Batum. That;s completely delusional. If the Wolves get their hands on Iggy their going to keep him, they aren't going to trade him AND draft picks for a player they could probably get by clearing cap space. Wolves need a 2 and a 3.

Whatever player is in this deal is going to disappoint you guys. Unless you really like Kyle Korver.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

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Is Nic the first guy in recent history, where the player wants to leave PDX on his own?

Gerald wanted to stay here, same with Dre/Camby/Trout/LA/BRoy/etc.

It all seems to have started with his agent's agenda. I mean, all year, Nic said that he'd be back and he wanted to be back. Even through all of the turmoil of this season, he always said he wanted to come back.

 

[Blaze01]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

It could be Iguodala...

Philly just amnestied Brand and Williams has been considered more of a PF than a SF, he would slide right into that spot....and Philly drafted Harkless and is rumoured or have traded for Dorrell Wright and have Thaddeus Young on the roster whom they recently signed to a big deal....Lot of SF....

Lots of things adding up there.....

Maybe Korver might be part of the deal and sent to Philly as a b\u SG....where there is a void after Lou Williams left?

Thaddeus Young IMO would be better fit age wise, but POR could flip Iguodala in a trade at a later date (mid season, next offseason) if they need too....

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

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Whoever it is, it's not going to be an upgrade over Batum. That;s completely delusional. If the Wolves get their hands on Iggy their going to keep him, they aren't going to trade him AND draft picks for a player they could probably get by clearing cap space. Wolves need a 2 and a 3.

Whatever player is in this deal is going to disappoint you guys. Unless you really like Kyle Korver.

You're completely delusional. What you don't seem to understand: you can't get Batum just by clearing cap space. Portland won't let him walk for nothing unless you max him. And by all means, I would love to see Minne max Batum. I really would. Eat that cap up. Make Love happy for a minute. Then, a year or two from now, once he sees how hamstrung you guys are financially because you overspent on a SF (one of the easiest positions to fill in the league), he will shit his pants.

 

[julius]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

If the Wolves are willing to trade Williams to the 76ers, why wouldn't they be willing to trade him to Portland?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

It could be Iguodala...

Philly just amnestied Brand and Williams has been considered more of a PF than a SF, he would slide right into that spot....and Philly drafted Harkless and is rumoured or have traded for Dorrell Wright and have Thaddeus Young on the roster whom they recently signed to a big deal....Lot of SF....

Lots of things adding up there.....

Maybe Korver might be part of the deal and sent to Philly as a b\u SG....where there is a void after Lou Williams left?

Thaddeus Young IMO would be better fit age wise, but POR could flip Iguodala in a trade at a later date (mid season, next offseason) if they need too....

Next off season he has a 15 mill player option. That might complicate things

 

[Pinwheel1]

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If the Wolves are willing to trade Williams to the 76ers, why wouldn't they be willing to trade him to Portland?

Maybe they really did offer and Oshey is not interested.

 

[Chris Hawkey]

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If the Wolves are willing to trade Williams to the 76ers, why wouldn't they be willing to trade him to Portland?

Because Iggy is a much better player.

 

[RR7]

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no chance it's Iggy. Most likely Korver, IMO. Ridnour to Chicago, Korver and 2picks here, Batum there.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

Jason Quick: "I have enough trouble running my own company, let alone running Minnesota’s as well,'' Olshey said re: no offer sheet presented to Batum. 4 minutes ago

 

[julius]

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Maybe they really did offer and Oshey is not interested.

Thats a possibility, but I'm not sure i believe it.

Sure, right NOW Iguodala is a better player than Williams, but I think the chances of Williams improving to be better than Iguodala are high.

The 2nd pick (if thats what the crutch is) isn't worth it.

My guess is, the Wolves are saying they'll find a way to get Portland a SF + the 2 picks mentioned. And in doing so, keep Williams.

I would think portland would just laugh and say "Williams or nothing, sucka!".

 

[Chris Hawkey]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

2 1st rounders and Iggy for the right to overpay Batum just isn't realistic.

 

[Blaze01]

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As someone said it might be the reason for 2 1st round picks....

Also Iguodala could always be dealt mid season or in the offseason...a 1yr or 1-1/2yr rental of Iguodala? I think you could get some playoff teams to trade some nice assets for him down the road...

 

[julius]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

Because Iggy is a much better player.

Right now he is, BUT if it's true they think he's a better player (I assume you mean than Batum), why wouldn't they just trade for him instead?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

no chance it's Iggy. Most likely Korver, IMO. Ridnour to Chicago, Korver and 2picks here, Batum there.

Club Blazers?

So far everything the rumor guy there has said this offseason hasn't happened, so I'm hoping he keeps his 0-fer.

 

[jlprk]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

Is Nic the first guy in recent history, where the player wants to leave PDX on his own?

Gerald wanted to stay here, same with Dre/Camby/Trout/LA/BRoy/etc.

Not Andre Miller, either. After his decade streak of starting every game was broken by McMillan, to start who again? Then Quick led the fans to hate him? Then McMillan yelled in front of the media to the future NBA coach that he didn't play right?

 

[julius]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

Not Andre Miller, either. After his decade streak of starting every game was broken by McMillan, to start who again? Then Quick led the fans to hate him? Then McMillan yelled in front of the media to the future NBA coach that he didn't play right?

He was given a noticeable cheer when he returned though. Rudy, not so much.

 

[RR7]

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Club Blazers?

So far everything the rumor guy there has said this offseason hasn't happened, so I'm hoping he keeps his 0-fer.

was going off of previous korver rumor, with ridnour going there.

 

[barfo]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

start rookies at the 1 and 5, plus korver or babbitt at the 3, we could tank pretty hard this year, potentially have 3 lottery picks next year, one of them in the top 3. Maybe aldridge will miss much of the year with a mystery "heart problem".

barfo

 

[Draco]

Re: ESPN Reports: POR & MIN working on deal 2-1st picks and SF vet from another team?

Not sure why anyone would bring up Korver's name. He is getting bought out and going to be a free agent, we could just sign his ass as a free agent if we wanted. I wouldn't spend $5million on him. So his trade value is less than zero to us.