Evan Turner makes our two best players significantly worse, why do we still play him?

[Orion Bailey]

Yes, and it proves nothing in regards to Turner making the team worse, thus the question I proposed.

First, the op was not “turner makes the team worse”, it was “he makes Dame and cj worse”.

Second, there are stats posted right at the bottom of the op showing you direct and glaring numbers, as to how he makes them worse. He is on the court with at least one of the two (he fricken starts with them...ugh) almost all the time, so In making Jose two worse, he is making the team worse.

Why are you trolling? You are too new here to be doing that.

 

[jlprk]

We know a dump truck in the pool won't do anything.

You mean a cement truck, as in cement shoes, so he will sleep with the fishes?

 

[CupWizier]

First, the op was not “turner makes the team worse”, it was “he makes Dame and cj worse”.

Second, there are stats posted right at the bottom of the op showing you direct and glaring numbers, as to how he makes them worse. He is on the court with at least one of the two (he fricken starts with them...ugh) almost all the time, so In making Jose two worse, he is making the team worse.

Why are you trolling? You are too new here to be doing that.

First I was responding to the post that said "He makes us a much worse team when he's on the court."

Second, those stats didn't show that we are a worse team with Turner or that he makes Lillard and McCollum significantly worse.

Third, since when is asking a question trolling? I have been a fan of the Blazers since inception and nobody should ever be limited by what they can post according to their length of participation.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Third, since when is asking a question trolling? I have been a fan of the Blazers since inception and nobody should ever be limited by what they can post according to their length of participation.

You're fine.

 

[Shaboid]

You're fine.

Stop hitting on members, Sly.

 

[CupWizier]

Stop hitting on members, Sly.

As long as he buys the drinks and dinner I'm fine with it.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Moe absolutely deserved to have been benched earlier in this season. He also now absolutely deserves to be starting again over Turner. Turner is best off the bench.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

First I was responding to the post that said "He makes us a much worse team when he's on the court."

Second, those stats didn't show that we are a worse team with Turner or that he makes Lillard and McCollum significantly worse.

Third, since when is asking a question trolling? I have been a fan of the Blazers since inception and nobody should ever be limited by what they can post according to their length of participation.

Then, what did those numbers tell? If you could explain your position a little better, maybe you would get a better response.

 

[CupWizier]

Then, what did those numbers tell? If you could explain your position a little better, maybe you would get a better response.

Those numbers only includes 3 players and floor time stats are with 5 players. Laying blame on one of 5 players isn't realistic. 82games.com shows one of our best lineups to include Turner. as a starter.

 

[jlprk]

I thought he'd do better against his old team, but today vs. the Celtics, he was our 2nd-worst player.

http://www.espn.com/nba/dailyleaders/_/gameId/400975530

 

[BlazerWookee]

You're fine.

Well, maybe, when he wears those yoga pants and a halter top...

 

[BonesJones]

Those numbers only includes 3 players and floor time stats are with 5 players. Laying blame on one of 5 players isn't realistic. 82games.com shows one of our best lineups to include Turner. as a starter.

It includes two players that are on the court all the time, so if Lillard/CJ has a much worse net rating with Turner than without, than that's reflective of the teams overall play and that Turner makes us worse.

 

[Labinot41]

Glass half full: If Nurk doesn't miss a couple easy layups, or if Evan Turner scores more than 0 points, the Blazers beat Boston.

Glass half empty: Nurk always misses easy layups. Turner has scored less than 10 points in 31 of Portland's 53 games. Both are starters.

 

[Orion Bailey]

First I was responding to the post that said "He makes us a much worse team when he's on the court."

Right. And I explained this In my post.


Second, those stats didn't show that we are a worse team with Turner or that he makes Lillard and McCollum significantly worse.

I again explained this in my post.

Third, since when is asking a question trolling? I have been a fan of the Blazers since inception and nobody should ever be limited by what they can post according to their length of participation.

You can post anything you want and I can assume you are trolling when you ask questions to which have been answered. That’s the trolling way after all.
And I was joking about being to new around here.
Aren’t almost all trolls new?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Aren’t almost all trolls new?

 

[Labinot41]

I Don't like his style of play and certainly not his contract, but credit where credit is due, he's doing pretty well as a leader of the 2nd Unit so far, hope he can keep this level

 

[dviss1]

 

[dviss1]

Evan Turner's play will never justify his paycheck. That said, Turner us KILLING right now.

 

[Labinot41]

Evan Turner's play will never justify his paycheck. That said, Turner us KILLING right now.

Yeah he has some stupid plays, bad shot selection and sometimes unnecessary turnovers, but the 2nd Unit has been much better than we all expected and he also plays overall good. At least he has a little bit of Value for the Team

 

[dviss1]

Yeah he has some stupid plays, bad shot selection and sometimes unnecessary turnovers, but the 2nd Unit has been much better than we all expected and he also plays overall good. At least he has a little bit of Value for the Team

Turner doesn't have bad shot selection IMO.

 

[BBert]

His pass selection OTOH.... Will get better??

 

[Labinot41]

Turner doesn't have bad shot selection IMO.

Yes sir

 

[BBert]

Yes sir

Yeah, that was severely stupid.

 

[rotary111]

I'll give him some rope on the shots since he's made a big difference with the second unit. Besides he likes that right side of the floor and probably practices that jumper over and over. Stotts gives a lot of freedom on the offensive side of the ball and only cares that it was an uncontested shot.....unless you're Dame or CJ.

 

[JoshuaHall]

Yes sir

38.5% of his shots come from within 3 feet of the basket. His average shot distance is 9 feet. He is shooting 54% from the field.

Not buying it.

 

[ripcityboy]

38.5% of his shots come from within 3 feet of the basket. His average shot distance is 9 feet. He is shooting 54% from the field.

Not buying it.

Well, I guess he has to try. Sometimes....