You can compare a Dame package to what other superstars teams got in trades. SGA & 4 picks the Thunder got.
well, that was 3 years ago and in the last 2 seasons OKC was 46-108. And three years after the trade, so far, their draft pick payoff has been #18 (Tre Mann). They might get a 15th pick this year, but that might also be the highest pick they get out of the deal, and those two picks, #18 & #15 will be the only draft payoff for the first 5 years after the deal
they got a couple of swaps, next year and 2025, but chances are those swaps won't be exercised
this is not a great return. It's actually very much like my coin swap analogy
Simmons Curry picks the Nets got for Harden. Ingram, Ball, Hart picks the Pelicans got for Davis.
Simmons was the centerpiece of the return, and he hasn't played a minute yet this season, and very well may not. And he's a very unpredictable asset that had substantially reduced value at the trade deadline. Curry is a role player. The draft assets will be the 23rd pick this season and a 2027 pick 5 years from now. The ancillary assets fit the coin analogy. The centerpiece, Simmons, is a unique situation and shouldn't be gauged as a template. And unarguably he is a flawed player that can't fit many rosters
the Pels & Davis trade is the best one of your 3 examples, in some ways. But it's worth keeping in mind that Davis was 26 at the time, 5 years younger than Dame. There is also the 6'11 vs 6'2 factor. Ingram is a nice player, all-star. But Ball and Hart are gone. Pells got next to nothing for Ball. They got something for Hart but it's hard to gauge how much. The Lakers 1st round pick is a good asset; and the future 1st and future swap might be nice assets. But again, the value of Davis at 26, coming off a season when he averaged 26-12-4 doesn't look like a good gauge for 31 year old Dame coming off his worst season while missing most of it
there is a two-way component of this trade: one is that the draft pick is an example of a payoff for just rolling the dice. The other side of it is you really can't count on a team failing as spectacularly as the Lakers did this season. Maybe have to calculate where the kiss-of-death (westbrook) is going to land next
Now maybe it makes sense to wait until a few months into the season and the league sees Dame healthy and fully recovered first. Maybe its takes an entire year to hold out for the best offer, as the Pelicans did with Davis; and unlike Cronin did with the Clippers. If the best offers are underwhelming then fine just keep Dame. But if there is a massive haul available and I was running the Blazers I'd seriously consider it.
as I have said: anybody expecting Dame to bring back a "
massive haul" (
kind of the mantra for the trade-dame crowd) now or this summer is delusional. He'll be 32 next season and he's a 6'2 guard coming off his worst season in the NBA who had surgery to correct a chronic injury and missed 2/3 of the season. His value is depressed, greatly, right now. It might be much better at the trade deadline but if Portland is in the running for a top-6 seed he won't be traded. I don't think he'll be traded regardless but considering doing it now isn't logical
I've also noted that in another post you said that Dame will regress every season from here on out. Maybe the Blazers waited 4 years too long to trade Dame. Might as well ride him into the sunset
