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[BLAZER PROPHET]

lol. I've got a vegetarian father-in-law I have to feed too. He's not too sanctimonious about it, though.

He's a vegetarian bird watcher who likes to come along with me when I go grouse hunting. Kind of an odd duck, really.

Anyway, the nice thing about having toddlers is that you can't get too heated about politics over a holiday dinner. Too hard to concentrate.

And don't forget the good football!

 

[BenDavis503]

I can see the anger.. bigotry is a very disgusting thing for me. Married to a hispanic (although more americanized than me lol) but towards any race its disgusting.. if you havent noticed I stay out of political conversations but Race comments get to me pretty quickly. In fact thats when me and Dante_Cunningham went at in first when he was Ricky Rubio lol.

I remember that. I was a dick head then and just trying to piss people off. Boy, looking back, I feel stupid.

But glad you forgave me!

 

[mook]

And don't forget the good football!

I plan on waking up at about 4 am to go duck hunting. Then get back and fire up the kitchen around 10. Once the bird is in the oven, I'll have 2 kids climbing all over me, and still juggle the ever-edgy political balance between parents and in-laws. Eat. Wrestle kids more. Drink too much wine. Sleep.

Pretty much always like that. If I catch 5 minutes of football somewhere in there, I'm lucky.

I can't imagine going shopping the day after Thanksgiving.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I plan on waking up at about 4 am to go duck hunting. Then get back and fire up the kitchen around 10. Once the bird is in the oven, I'll have 2 kids climbing all over me, and still juggle the ever-edgy political balance between parents and in-laws. Eat. Wrestle kids more. Drink too much wine. Sleep.

Pretty much always like that. If I catch 5 minutes of football somewhere in there, I'm lucky.

I can't imagine going shopping the day after Thanksgiving.

I've been teaching my grand daughter about football from day 1. For a while she called me grandpa touchdown.

 

[mook]

I've been carefully molding my older boy into a shooting guard. I used to think PG, but the fact is he hates passing. So why fight instinct?

I saw this the other day and immediately kicked myself that I didn't do it when I had the chance:

(My wife was revolted, but she would've come around.)

 

[THE HCP]

I keep my facebook page politics free.

On another note, you really can't stand to be around your brother because of politics? Seriously? My brother and sister dislike Obama because they think he's too conservative. When they visualize me, they see floppy hair and a truncated moustache. That being said, we're family. We find other things to discuss.

Maxie, find me on facebook man!

 

[Wheels]

I remember that. I was a dick head then and just trying to piss people off. Boy, looking back, I feel stupid.

But glad you forgave me!

hey we all can move on from stuff I think maybe the wording was poor at the time, as Minstrel and others had discussed in that thread. Just basically poor wording and misunderstanding that blew up. No forgiveness needed, we all have our bad days though thats for sure lol.

 

[maxiep]

I remember that. I was a dick head then and just trying to piss people off. Boy, looking back, I feel stupid.

But glad you forgave me!

Seriously? It never occurs to me that people are intentionally trying to anger people. I understand people are trying to annoy others, but not bring them to anger. I, on the other hand, seem to make people angry without even really trying. I thought I had a kindred spirit; I was wrong.

 

[PapaG]

Seriously? It never occurs to me that people are intentionally trying to anger people. I understand people are trying to annoy others, but not bring them to anger. I, on the other hand, seem to make people angry without even really trying. I thought I had a kindred spirit; I was wrong.

I'm your kindred spirit. My levity and nuance just doesn't seem to come across on a message board. It instead manifests itself as intensity and stubborness, at least that's what I gather.

 

[maxiep]

And don't forget the good football!

Unless your sister-in-law with hairier armpits than Ron Jeremy lets you know it's nothing but a bunch of angry men on steroids coveting the skin of a dead pig.

 

[Chutney]

It's difficult to do when I have to make a Tofurkey for half my family and indure insults because I dare consume the flesh of an animal.

As a vegetarian, I find fellow vegetarians can be among the most annoyingly preachy people on the planet.

 

[Wheels]

As a vegetarian, I find fellow vegetarians can be among the most annoyingly preachy people on the planet.

lol just ones who talk down to you because you eat meat.. and look at you like youre barbecuing a kitten when you cook meat.

 

[maxiep]

As a vegetarian, I find fellow vegetarians can be among the most annoyingly preachy people on the planet.

I went vegetarian for almost three years, but decided I didn't like being lumped in with the PC vegetarians to which you're referring. It was never anything health or politically related; for a while meat just bummed me out.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I went vegetarian for almost three years, but decided I didn't like being lumped in with the PC vegetarians to which you're referring. It was never anything health or politically related; for a while meat just bummed me out.

I'll hoist a few baby back ribs in your honor tonight.

 

[44Thrilla]

I'm basically a meatarian

 

[BlazerWookee]

It's difficult to do when I have to make a Tofurkey for half my family and endure insults because I dare consume the flesh of an animal.

Cook the tofurkey in bacon grease and see if they notice. Tell 'em it's seasoned with frankincense and myrrh...

 

[BlazerWookee]

I'll hoist a few baby back ribs in your honor tonight.

I was going to have a salad tonight, but since maxie needs help making up for three lost years, NY Strip Steak with meat loaf on the side it is!

 

[maxiep]

I freakin' love this board! Kill more cows! Kill more pigs!

I had a delicious sub for lunch today--dry salami, Genoa salami, pepperoni, capicola, turkey and parma ham. I'm back, baby!

 

[BlazerWookee]

Meat is murder! Tasty, tasty murder!

 

[The Sebastian Express]

I always feel bad about eating meat but I figure if they were carnivores and if we tasted good they'd eat us too.

 

[Pontius]

Any form of preferential treatment is bigotry. I believe in a meritocracy, plain and simple. If you want people to be viewed equally, treat them equally.

You don't really believe in a meritocracy. A meritocracy would first level the playing fields. Or are you now for "real" opportunity redistribution? The New York Yankees are analogous to my point. Do you feel that franchise has success because of merit? Or is it because the rules allow for them to succeed in conditions in which other franchises are pitted squarely behind the eight ball? Yes, it's possible for other franchises to succeed, but not without working more efficiently, with far less resources, and with the surmounting of all the other necessary barriers to entry . That to me is not a system of meritocracy. That is the system of the status quo free market and that is the system I'm willing to bet that you support.


You know all of this though. You are smart. So what gives?

 

[Pontius]

I'm your kindred spirit. My levity and nuance just doesn't seem to come across on a message board. It instead manifests itself as intensity and stubborness, at least that's what I gather.

I can attest to this same feeling. But maybe it's because in real life we aren't typically surrounded by so many conflicting matters of opinion or at least of opinions that are so readily stated. I figure that if confronted by real life contention of the sort that you see on this board, that you'd probably react with the same intensity and stubborness. That's how I feel for myself at least. Luckily enough, I suppose, that in real life people are often too sheepish to say what is really on their mind.

I think that in a sense facebook is an extension of real life for a lot of people and that this thread typifies my point. People are afraid to speak out their political ideology for fear of alienating those others that they care about on a personal level.

I personally find that to be demeaning to the self. I guess that's why I tend to say what is on my mind on facebook. Why the need for us all to wear a public mask? I think it's quite sad really.

 

[ABM]

Racist.

Bigot.

 

[mook]

Bigot.

Spigot.

 

[Shooter]

I think it's pretty easy to do. Many bigots are also very anti-immigration, but not all people who are anti-immigration are bigots.

Classic. Maxiep makes a comment about "illegal" immigration, and you turn it into an "immigration" issue. This is such a simple distinction, and yet people on the left get it wrong all the time. Is it intentional?

In my worldview, opposition to gay marriage is a form of bigotry.

Wow. So if someone is opposed to murder, then they are "bigoted" against murderers?

 

[The Sebastian Express]

And there is Shooter comparing gay equal rights to murder. I'd say I'm surprised but sadly I am not.

 

[MARIS61]

Ask your brother to bring his political posts over here to the OT forum, and keep the Facebook arena as a non-threatening place for fun communication w/family and friends.

This is about the only place I get political anymore, as all my friends already know where I stand and I know where they stand and none of us is about to change anyone else's mind.

 

[mook]

Classic. Maxiep makes a comment about "illegal" immigration, and you turn it into an "immigration" issue. This is such a simple distinction, and yet people on the left get it wrong all the time. Is it intentional?

Huh? I turned this into an "immigration" issue? Re-read the thread. Or at least the original post to this thread.

 

[mook]

This is about the only place I get political anymore, as all my friends already know where I stand and I know where they stand and none of us is about to change anyone else's mind.

Odd. I find the bolded statement a much better description of this board than I do people in my own life. (My brother being a major exception.)

 

[MARIS61]

Odd. I find the bolded statement a much better description of this board than I do people in my own life. (My brother being a major exception.)

My friends and I are probably older and more set in our ways. We weren't always that way.

But by now we've been there done that. It's not like there's anything new politically going on all of a sudden. Same old same old, speaking in broad terms.

We just enjoy discussing other things more at this point in our lives, like vacations or fishing or families...