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Lanny said:
How did that perception get in here? I thought we were talking about a guy who pleaded guilty when confronted with the evidence.
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Guilty of a process crime of lying to an FBI agent, while new evidence proves they were trying to entrap him for crimes they aren’t even investigating him for? Yeah, that’s a good response.
 
Apparently Flynn got to be a general with no knowledge of basic defense when under attack....Flynn painted himself in a corner with his own guilt and paranoia....anybody who thinks the FBI doesn't fuck with people doesn't know shit about the FBI....Hoover says hello!
 
riverman said:
Apparently Flynn got to be a general with no knowledge of basic defense when under attack....Flynn painted himself in a corner with his own guilt and paranoia....anybody who thinks the FBI doesn't fuck with people doesn't know shit about the FBI....Hoover says hello!
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So would that prove the incompetence of the Obama Administration?

April 17, 2012: President Barack Obama nominates Flynn, a U.S. Army lieutenant general who led operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, as the 18th director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Flynn ...
 
magnifier661 said:
Guilty of a process crime of lying to an FBI agent, while new evidence proves they were trying to entrap him for crimes they aren’t even investigating him for? Yeah, that’s a good response.
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You can't trap someone for crimes they did commit. It's like trumps lawyers telling him not to testify in his impeachment hearing because it's a perjury trap. You can't be trapped for perjury if you tell the truth which is the oath someone takes before they testify.
 
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riverman said:
Apparently Flynn got to be a general with no knowledge of basic defense when under attack....Flynn painted himself in a corner with his own guilt and paranoia....anybody who thinks the FBI doesn't fuck with people doesn't know shit about the FBI....Hoover says hello!
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Sure they do and Peter Strock seemed like a real flake to me.
 
the stupid part of the entrapment argument is the notion that a person who holds and MBA, and two MA's, was a graduate of the Army Command School and the Naval War College, and became a Lieutenant General in the Army, then the National Security Adviser, was ignorant of the fact that lying to the FBI in a sworn deposition was a crime
 
wizenheimer said:
the stupid part of the entrapment argument is the notion that a person who holds and MBA, and two MA's, was a graduate of the Army Command School and the Naval War College, and became a Lieutenant General in the Army, then the National Security Adviser, was ignorant of the fact that lying to the FBI in a sworn deposition was a crime
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It's obvious he never had time to watch Law and Order.
 
wizenheimer said:
the stupid part of the entrapment argument is the notion that a person who holds and MBA, and two MA's, was a graduate of the Army Command School and the Naval War College, and became a Lieutenant General in the Army, then the National Security Adviser, was ignorant of the fact that lying to the FBI in a sworn deposition was a crime
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"When you're a star they let you do it"

barfo
 
magnifier661 said:
So would that prove the incompetence of the Obama Administration?

April 17, 2012: President Barack Obama nominates Flynn, a U.S. Army lieutenant general who led operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, as the 18th director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Flynn ...
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Nominating a promotion to Lt. General is not as bad as appointing him your National Security Advisor after being warned by his previous boss not to do so. It seems Obama learned from his experience but Trump did not.
 
wizenheimer said:
the stupid part of the entrapment argument is the notion that a person who holds and MBA, and two MA's, was a graduate of the Army Command School and the Naval War College, and became a Lieutenant General in the Army, then the National Security Adviser, was ignorant of the fact that lying to the FBI in a sworn deposition was a crime
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I wonder how many other people have no idea that lying to an official FBI investigation is illegal. Apparently, it's pretty common in the Trump Administration. By the way, who's the ultimate boss of that Administration?
 
Lanny said:
Nominating a promotion to Lt. General is not as bad as appointing him your National Security Advisor after being warned by his previous boss not to do so. It seems Obama learned from his experience but Trump did not.
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Obama took Flynn out of his Administration because he was vocal against the President. Weird how you think that’s accepted with Obama, yet you applaud when Admins from Trump to speak out.

When the FBI agent actually said he didn’t believe he lied, yet the head investigator still followed through. I’m highly certain Flynn is an honorable man that had his life ruined from snowflake elite police and deep state. They can all go fuck themselves because they abused their power. I hope they go to prison.
 
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magnifier661 said:
I’m highly certain Flynn is an honorable man that had his life ruined from snowflake elite police and deep state.
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Then please do explain his secretly working for a foreign government at the same time he was receiving classified briefings from our government, and how that fits in with being 'an honorable man'.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Then please do explain his secretly working for a foreign government at the same time he was receiving classified briefings from our government, and how that fits in with being 'an honorable man'.

barfo
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What was he guilty of? I mean, he was just pleading guilty to the FBI. Nice try though. It was kinda cute.

mags
 
magnifier661 said:
What was he guilty of? I mean, he was just pleading guilty to the FBI. Nice try though. It was kinda cute.

mags
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You seem to be arguing that anyone not convicted of a crime (and, in this case, even someone who was) is an honorable man. Seems like a low bar.

I notice that you didn't address the substance of my question, either. We can go around on this all day, I guess.

barfo
 
barfo said:
You seem to be arguing that anyone not convicted of a crime (and, in this case, even someone who was) is an honorable man. Seems like a low bar.

I notice that you didn't address the substance of my question, either. We can go around on this all day, I guess.

barfo
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Why does that have any precedent to the fact the FBI entrapped Flynn? They didn’t even try charging him with the weak “Logan Act” crime that the left always tries to toss.

Seems we can go around this all day.

mags
 
magnifier661 said:
Obama took Flynn out of his Administration because he was vocal against the President. Weird how you think that’s accepted with Obama, yet you applaud when Admins from Trump to speak out.

When the FBI agent actually said he didn’t believe he lied, yet the head investigator still followed through. I’m highly certain Flynn is an honorable man that had his life ruined from snowflake elite police and deep state. They can all go fuck themselves because they abused their power. I hope they go to prison.
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You have to look at the type of Flynn criticism compared with firing someone for saying something really minor or extremely salient.
 
Lanny said:
You have to look at the type of Flynn criticism compared with firing someone for saying something really minor or extremely salient.
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There were ex-Trump Administration that said way worse and were praised by the left.

Flynn was fired because he wanted to take a tougher stance on Islamic Terrorism.
 
magnifier661 said:
Why does that have any precedent to the fact the FBI entrapped Flynn? They didn’t even try charging him with the weak “Logan Act” crime that the left always tries to toss.

Seems we can go around this all day.

mags
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There's two issues here Mags. One is whether the FBI entrapped Flynn somehow, were mean to him, made him cry, or whatever.
I'm leaving you to discuss that, as I'm not much invested in it. If they did something bad, hang 'em. If they didn't, that's fine too.

The second issue is that Flynn actually did something bad prior to the FBI visiting him for the first time. You don't seem to want to address that issue, but you are claiming that Flynn was a honorable man... it seems clear from the evidence he was not.

barfo
 
barfo said:
There's two issues here Mags. One is whether the FBI entrapped Flynn somehow, were mean to him, made him cry, or whatever.
I'm leaving you to discuss that, as I'm not much invested in it. If they did something bad, hang 'em. If they didn't, that's fine too.

The second issue is that Flynn actually did something bad prior to the FBI visiting him for the first time. You don't seem to want to address that issue, but you are claiming that Flynn was a honorable man... it seems clear from the evidence he was not.

barfo
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The second issue wasn’t something bad or he would have been charged for it. Mueller wanted a scalp. He didn’t proceed with that supposed crime because it wouldn’t stick. Just a moot point.

mags
 
barfo said:
There's two issues here Mags. One is whether the FBI entrapped Flynn somehow, were mean to him, made him cry, or whatever.
I'm leaving you to discuss that, as I'm not much invested in it. If they did something bad, hang 'em. If they didn't, that's fine too.

The second issue is that Flynn actually did something bad prior to the FBI visiting him for the first time. You don't seem to want to address that issue, but you are claiming that Flynn was a honorable man... it seems clear from the evidence he was not.

barfo
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This is the most pirate-like thing you've said in a long time. Hang them if they did something bad or not that's fine. lol
 
magnifier661 said:
The second issue wasn’t something bad or he would have been charged for it. Mueller wanted a scalp. He didn’t proceed with that supposed crime because it wouldn’t stick. Just a moot point.

mags
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Anything that can't be successfully prosecuted is a-ok?

barfo
 
magnifier661 said:
There were ex-Trump Administration that said way worse and were praised by the left.

Flynn was fired because he wanted to take a tougher stance on Islamic Terrorism.
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Do you have an example?
 
barfo said:
Anything that can't be successfully prosecuted is a-ok?

barfo
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Seemed okay to you when Hillary bleached bit her emails and smashed their cellphones with hammers. That’s been widely reported.

mags
 
barfo said:
Anything that can't be successfully prosecuted is a-ok?

barfo
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Worse than that, Mueller wanted to be 100% certain of a conviction not 99% certain.
 
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