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Denny Crane said:
3 more years of swam draining
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Swami is dead.

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I better add that typo to my signature.
 
Denny Crane said:
Malicious prosecution isn't provided in the constitution. Admittedly malicious.
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What malicious prosecution? Admitted by whom, you?

Like I said, those who abuse the system really ought to at least pay the costs, if not spending some jail time.
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And they will... we've already got 3 or 4 guilty pleas, more on the way.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
I don't. Only when she's in the news.
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You don't know we actually have a record of your posts here? You post about her anytime you need to deflect criticism of Trump.

barfo
 
BTW, judging from the latest leaks about what Mueller is asking people, he's close to done looking at every claim of the conspiracy theory.

Will the mass delusion be over when he reports he found nothing?
 
Denny Crane said:
Your sample size of 1 is insignificant and irrelevant.

More scientific sample sizes show he's just about as popular now as he was when elected (within about +/- 2%). DULY elected.

In fact, at this point in his presidency, he's more popular than Obama was in his, according to some of the polls.
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Actually Denny, his popularity is still lower than when he was first elected and it ranges from 35% to 40% (the Rasmussen poll has been a joke from the beginning). Hiw many lies, how many personal attacks, how many resignations, how many firings and how many personal attacks on those who don;t side with Trump are you willing to accept? This whitehouse is a mess and that should concern you.
 
CupWizier said:
Actually Denny, his popularity is still lower than when he was first elected and it ranges from 35% to 40% (the Rasmussen poll has been a joke from the beginning). Hiw many lies, how many personal attacks, how many resignations, how many firings and how many personal attacks on those who don;t side with Trump are you willing to accept? This whitehouse is a mess and that should concern you.
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I've gotten past the hair on fire responses to every little thing Trump does. I'm focused more on what he actually does.

Oddly, his immigration policies are the only real danger I've seen, but his views aren't out of the main stream. You can see on this site how many posters agree with him about immigrants taking jobs and using safety net resources. What's odd is that people choose to focus on trivialities and ignore actual policy issues. That is, if people were making threads about how his immigration policies are hurting real people, people who've been here and contributed for decades, there might actually be some agreement.

Average of polls.

* Down 3.1 as of this post. It was over 42 just a few days ago. It's a good measure of 24/7 negative press by CNN and MSNBC.
* It's higher than it's been for most of 2017.

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Not sure about the 35% figure you cite.

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That said, I'm not sure your discounting of Rasmussen is wise.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/19/these-pollsters-got-the-election-right-according-to-rcp/

The most accurate poll that surveyed likely voters was the Investor’s Business Daily poll, a poll that has one of the finest records for calling races in recent political history. It was one of the only polls that called the race for Trump in the final days of the election, giving him 45 percent of the vote compared to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

The second most accurate poll according to the report was the national Rasmussen poll of likely voters. Although the end result showed that Clinton would win the race, the overall numbers are very close to the results, as long as you just count the popular vote. Clinton led Trump by 2 percentage points in the poll, nearly the same number as she led Trump in the overall popular vote.
 
Denny Crane said:
By Comey, for one. Malicious prosecution.
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Interesting. So in your mind an unemployed guy, Comey, is a prosecutor?

That explains the cardboard signs on the streetcorners downtown: "Need money to prosecute. God bless".

Guilty pleas to non process crimes. Good luck with those.
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Thanks!

barfo
 
riverman said:
You've become addicted to fast food and twitter?
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Seems like the kind of things you're obviously focused on.

I'm thinking more of how he's not hired tens of thousands of government workers, cutting out the ridiculous regulations that strangle the economy, etc.

Stay focused on the shiny things over there.
 
barfo said:
Interesting. So in your mind an unemployed guy, Comey, is a prosecutor?

That explains the cardboard signs on the streetcorners downtown: "Need money to prosecute. God bless".



Thanks!

barfo
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In Comey's own words, his intent was to force a special counsel investigation. Into nothing, as he knew from the FBI's investigation that went nowhere already.
 
Denny Crane said:
I've gotten past the hair on fire responses to every little thing Trump does. I'm focused more on what he actually does.

Oddly, his immigration policies are the only real danger I've seen, but his views aren't out of the main stream. You can see on this site how many posters agree with him about immigrants taking jobs and using safety net resources. What's odd is that people choose to focus on trivialities and ignore actual policy issues. That is, if people were making threads about how his immigration policies are hurting real people, people who've been here and contributed for decades, there might actually be some agreement.

Average of polls.

* Down 3.1 as of this post. It was over 42 just a few days ago. It's a good measure of 24/7 negative press by CNN and MSNBC.
* It's higher than it's been for most of 2017.

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Not sure about the 35% figure you cite.

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You graph proves my point and disproves yours. His popularity is not at the same level as his first few days.
 
everyone should be more concerned about lobbyist that have politicians in the pocket and tenure.
 
Term limits across the country for congress and strict lobbyist rules for contributions would make a huge difference.
Full time politicians are not what the founders wanted.
 
Denny Crane said:
Seems like the kind of things you're obviously focused on.
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sure..all I do is sit around looking at shiny stuff and worrying....trust....I can say it many, many times but trust isn't something one throw under the bus for the GNP....I understand though...that's your shiny object to focus on.....I'm way more concerned with the long term Chinese retaliation for Trump's economic bluster....the tariffs will lead to devalutation of currency and now China may sell some US Treasury debt...buckle up....it ain't over yet...now Russia has upgraded their nuclear arsenal .....ever play Risk or Diplomacy? If you have you'll see how backdoor alliances can change the landscape...I think Trump's views are going to have some bad global consequences....Mexico will do business with China and Russia all day long over Trump....today the leading expert in Latin American affairs resigns in Mexico following Trump's cold war phone call....yeah...buckle up celebrate all you want ..
 
CupWizier said:
You graph proves my point and disproves yours. His popularity is not at the same level as his first few days.
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My point was that he's only down ~2 points. My graph proves my point. It disproves the 35% claim you made.

His approval is higher now than it has been since April of 2017.

Stunning how good it is considering all the negative press he's gotten.

The media frequently talks about how they want to drive his poll numbers to the low 30s so republicans might consider impeachment and removal from office.

The media's goal should be to report the news, not to drive down anyone's poll numbers.
 
Denny Crane said:
My point was that he's only down ~2 points. My graph proves my point. It disproves the 35% claim you made.

His approval is higher now than it has been since April of 2017.

Stunning how good it is considering all the negative press he's gotten.

The media frequently talks about how they want to drive his poll numbers to the low 30s so republicans might consider impeachment and removal from office.

The media's goal should be to report the news, not to drive down anyone's poll numbers.
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Your statement was simply wrong. At the beginning of his term he was as high as 47.4 and is now at 40. How is that as high as any time?
 
CupWizier said:
Your statement was simply wrong. At the beginning of his term he was as high as 47.4 and is now at 40. How is that as high as any time?
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If you pretend I said something I didn't, then argue that I was wrong, it's no argument at all.

His highest rating was 46%, not 47%. At the beginning of his term, he had a rating of 44%, not 47%.

His rating now is 41.2%, not 40%.

You keep getting the numbers wrong. Or you're fudging them to make your weak argument look better somehow.

His 42%+ just a few days ago is ~2% lower than when he took office. As I wrote.

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riverman said:
wow...you're easily impressed
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I'm just happy CNN and the others have wasted so much of their time and money on trivial bullshit, destroying their credibility in the process.

 
Denny Crane said:
I'm just happy CNN and the others have wasted so much of their time and money on trivial bullshit, destroying their credibility in the process.
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Even assuming that were true, why would that make you happy?

You don't like news organizations to have credibility - makes it easier for you to sell your alternative-fact based views, I guess.

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barfo said:
Even assuming that were true, why would that make you happy?

You don't like news organizations to have credibility - makes it easier for you to sell your alternative-fact based views, I guess.

barfo
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Because just about every person on CNN comes off as assholes. I'm happy to see them acting butt hurt because they are.

Their reactions on election night was the very best thing about Trump winning. Beating you-know-who was another.

I suppose you think those are alternative facts.

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Denny Crane said:
Because just about every person on CNN comes off as assholes. I'm happy to see them acting butt hurt because they are.

Their reactions on election night was the very best thing about Trump winning. Beating you-know-who was another.

I suppose you think those are alternative facts.

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Did you read today about the European company pulling out of a quarter billion dollar expansion in the States as it is no longer profitable to expand here due to aluminum and steel tariffs? That's not a story about Trump getting peed on by a little girl.....the world is countering the tariff law...watch them spend their expansion money in Mexico now or Canada..I'm sure China, S Korea, Japan, Taiwan and quiet a few other countries will be looking to Latin American countries now instead of our labor force here to invest in.
 
riverman said:
Did you read today about the European company pulling out of a quarter billion dollar expansion in the States as it is no longer profitable to expand here due to aluminum and steel tariffs? That's not a story about Trump getting peed on by a little girl.....the world is countering the tariff law...watch them spend their expansion money in Mexico now or Canada..I'm sure China, S Korea, Japan, Taiwan and quiet a few other countries will be looking to Latin American countries now instead of our labor force here to invest in.
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I'm no fan of tariffs.

I'm also no fan of these countries dumping aluminum and steel here.

The tariffs are one way of saying we won't be pushed around anymore.
 
Interesting tidbit....Trump owns a ton of US Steel and Coal stocks ....coincidence?
 
Also interesting - possibly unrelated - Oleg Deripaska stepped down as CEO of the Russian aluminum company last week.

barfo
 
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