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Denny Crane said:
If you pretend I said something I didn't, then argue that I was wrong, it's no argument at all.

His highest rating was 46%, not 47%. At the beginning of his term, he had a rating of 44%, not 47%.

His rating now is 41.2%, not 40%.

You keep getting the numbers wrong. Or you're fudging them to make your weak argument look better somehow.

His 42%+ just a few days ago is ~2% lower than when he took office. As I wrote.

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Denny Crane said:
My point was that he's only down ~2 points. My graph proves my point. It disproves the 35% claim you made.

His approval is higher now than it has been since April of 2017.

Stunning how good it is considering all the negative press he's gotten.

The media frequently talks about how they want to drive his poll numbers to the low 30s so republicans might consider impeachment and removal from office.

The media's goal should be to report the news, not to drive down anyone's poll numbers.
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Here's a point for you to chew on Denny. Trump is the least popular president after the first year in office and it really isn't close. How you going to spin that one Vladimir Crane
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CupWizier said:
Here's a point for you to chew on Denny. Trump is the least popular president after the first year in office and it really isn't close. How you going to spin that one Vladimir Crane
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In some polls, he's higher than Obama was at this stage of his presidency.

Reading is a good thing. Try it.
 
Denny Crane said:
In some polls, he's higher than Obama was at this stage of his presidency.

Reading is a good thing. Try it.
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Yeah, and your boy came up with a great idea to maybe have a rating system for movies. What a fucking idiot he is. Your spin is quite remarkable denny as I suppose you think his straw poll at the CPAC was realistic, lol.

read it and weep.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-year-in-trumps-approval-rating/

Another poll shows 31% agree that he would run into a school building unarmed with a live shooter. 69% wish he would. :breakdance:
 
CupWizier said:
Another poll shows 31% agree that he would run into a school building unarmed with a live shooter. 69% wish he would.
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President Trump has run faster and saved more children in schools the any other president, PERIOD!

- Sean Spicer
 
CupWizier said:
Yeah, and your boy came up with a great idea to maybe have a rating system for movies. What a fucking idiot he is. Your spin is quite remarkable denny as I suppose you think his straw poll at the CPAC was realistic, lol.

read it and weep.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-year-in-trumps-approval-rating/

Another poll shows 31% agree that he would run into a school building unarmed with a live shooter. 69% wish he would. :breakdance:
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I have no reason to weep.

I say "some polls say" and you find one pollster who disagrees. Congrats!

Like I said, reading is a good thing. Comprehension is the next step.
 
Denny Crane said:
In some polls,
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keep digging....Trump is not faring well in popularity polls...overwhelmingly bad showing but you really need for him to look good.....whew....make enough enemies...insult enough people and these are the results..
 
riverman said:
keep digging....Trump is not faring well in popularity polls...overwhelmingly bad showing but you really need for him to look good.....whew....make enough enemies...insult enough people and these are the results..
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I honestly don't care about his polls. They are what they are. What matters is he won the most important one. Electoral College poll.

And all the state polls in Clinton's "blue wall" that the media touted the whole while.

The reason he won is the reason he may well win again. I already figured out why. You clearly haven't.
 
The least friendly poll to Trump.

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Oh my, Obama spent a lot of his presidency at ~40%, about what Trump's is now.
 
Denny Crane said:
Oh my, Obama spent a lot of his presidency at ~40%, about what Trump's is now.
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You are obviously misreading the graph. His average over the 8 years on that poll was 47.9%. Of the 32 quarters he was president, his quarterly average approval was never less than 41%. The lowest point was 38%.

Right now Trump is at 39%. He's spent nearly his whole presidency under 40%.

Obama spent his presidency looking down at a 40% rating. Trump spent his looking up at 40%. It's not accurate to say they were both ~40%.

barfo
 
barfo said:
You are obviously misreading the graph. His average over the 8 years on that poll was 47.9%. Of the 32 quarters he was president, his quarterly average approval was never less than 41%. The lowest point was 38%.

Right now Trump is at 39%. He's spent nearly his whole presidency under 40%.

Obama spent his presidency looking down at a 40% rating. Trump spent his looking up at 40%. It's not accurate to say they were both ~40%.

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From 2013 to late 2014, Obama's approval was ~40%. That's just one part of the graph.

It wasn't much higher than that until Clinton became the nominee.

Remember, this is the MOST FAVORABLE poll for Obama.
 
Denny Crane said:
And he says I'm in denial.

:lol:
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From what I can see, the polls don't mean squat! They more or less reflect the knowledge of those being polled more than anything else, much less anything meaningful about Trump. Sort of like metadata, only useful to the creator for a given purpose.
 
MarAzul said:
From what I can see, the polls don't mean squat! They more or less reflect the knowledge of those being polled more than anything else, much less anything meaningful about Trump. Sort of like metadata, only useful to the creator for a given purpose.
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Yes, if your point of view is that citizens opinions don't matter, then polls definitely don't mean squat. But then if opinions don't matter, why are you offering yours?

barfo
 
MarAzul said:
How else are you going to learn?
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It's a good point. There are few other opportunities for me to learn what a blind Trump partisan thinks, given that there are relatively few of you. I'm very grateful to you, Denny Nunes, and Maris.

barfo
 
barfo said:
It's a good point. There are few other opportunities for me to learn what a blind Trump partisan thinks, given that there are relatively few of you. I'm very grateful to you, Denny Nunes, and Maris.

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You are welcome.
 
MarAzul said:
From what I can see, the polls don't mean squat! They more or less reflect the knowledge of those being polled more than anything else, much less anything meaningful about Trump. Sort of like metadata, only useful to the creator for a given purpose.
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What's meaningful about trump. What has he done marzy. other than create chaos in the whitehouse and made a country divided. His tax cut was a complete joke. He has both the House and the Senate and has been able to get very little done because of idiots in congress (mostly republicans) and his even more idiotic ideas. I don't care about republican or democrats, I care about my country.
 
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CupWizier said:
What's meaningful about trump. What has he done marzy. other than create chaos in the whitehouse and made a country divided. Hos tax cut was a complete joke. He has both the House and the Senate and has been able to get very little done because of idiots in congress (mostly republicans) and his even more idiotic ideas. I don;t care about republican or democrats, I care about my country.
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river will be pleased to get acquainted. You guys can work up a pitty party.

@riverman
 
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MarAzul said:
If a Russian donated to the NRA, is that illegal?
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Is Legal/Illegal the same as Right/Wrong?

A Russian donating to a politician or to benefit a politician is illegal. Supposedly, the NRA used that money in the election of Trump. Hence, the donation would be illegal.

However, we should let Mueller figure this one out. Hopefully we'll all let Mueller figure this one out. Are you listening, Mr. Potato Head?
 
MarAzul said:
Well let us look at it in a more personal view. You need not answer, I only ask your to consider it..... Do you want the FBI to come check your affairs, your books, your what ever, to see if you did anything illegal? The government has the power to do this until you are broken and cannot comply. Is that right?
Of course not. It should not be the way we enforce the law.
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Yep, they can check me anytime. In fact, I admitted smoking weed in college on my last two security clearances. It got me a face to face interview which I passed. Haven't smoked any since that time.

Other than that, I've committed no felony as an adult.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
And that's why is in the investigation phase.

If Russia wrote in the little memo part of the check, "For Donald Trump's president campaign. MAGA!" then it's a problem. If they just gave millions of dollars to the NRA without any conditions at all then it's not illegal.
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The check might have been written with a wink which would have been illegal if it could be proven.
 
Denny Crane said:
What a silly list. It includes Comey and others who should have been shit canned. Not hired by Trump.

The rest? Who cares. None for anything related to Russia, Russia, Russia delusion.
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Shit canned for what? For investigating the Russia connection? That's his job.
 
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