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SlyPokerDog said:
Hey, let's make espionage legal!

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He actually wrote those words and hit send...

I just can't anymore.
 
Why was a raid warranted? Hillary violated the same rules with her emails. No charge, no raid. Trump had already given them boxes of documents willingly, and was cooperating.

The fbi had better find something really bad....and not fabricated like the russia gate steel dossier bs.

You lefties jump like excited froggies every time some new lie about trump is spun.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Hey, let's make espionage legal!

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If you read the article posted in the tweet, from 2019, it lays out the case. This act has been used to prosecute those who speak out against the draft. I remember when liberals used to be against things like that.
 
It is true that laws have been used to punish dissidents. That is a case for making laws more specific, not legalizing espionage as long as Trump is the one doing it.
 
Trump demands documents are RETURNED that were taken in the raid following report FBI agents took 'attorney-client' and 'executive privilege' material
  • Donald Trump demanded via Truth Social on Sunday that the FBI return to him documents they seized during the Monday raid of Mar-a-Lago
  • He said material contained 'attorney-client' and 'executive privileged' material
  • Referenced a Fox report such material was found in boxes labeled A-14, A-26, A-43, A-13, A-33
  • The New York Times reports Trump had someone portray a message to Attorney General Merrick Garland before his public statement Thursday on the raid
  • 'The country is on fire. What can I do to reduce the heat?' was the message
  • Trump claims the FBI seized materials 'they knowingly should not have taken'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-privilege-documents-RETURNED-taken-raid.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Trump demands documents are RETURNED that were taken in the raid following report FBI agents took 'attorney-client' and 'executive privilege' material
  • Donald Trump demanded via Truth Social on Sunday that the FBI return to him documents they seized during the Monday raid of Mar-a-Lago
  • He said material contained 'attorney-client' and 'executive privileged' material
  • Referenced a Fox report such material was found in boxes labeled A-14, A-26, A-43, A-13, A-33
  • The New York Times reports Trump had someone portray a message to Attorney General Merrick Garland before his public statement Thursday on the raid
  • 'The country is on fire. What can I do to reduce the heat?' was the message
  • Trump claims the FBI seized materials 'they knowingly should not have taken'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-privilege-documents-RETURNED-taken-raid.html
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SlyPokerDog said:
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Wow?
That is about as delusional as it gets but sad fact is it's exactly the way a bunch of Trump supporters i know speak about him.

Try this on for size from Four Star General John Kelly who was Trumps Homeland Security advisor and Chief of Staff.

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Former White House chief of staff John Kelly explained to The Washington Post that his former boss did not understand why America's secrets are classified.

Kelly's comments were included in a Washington Post deep-dive by reporters Josh Dawsey, Rosalind S. Helderman, Jacqueline Alemany and Devlin Barrett titled, "Trump’s secrets: How a records dispute led the FBI to search Mar-a-Lago."

"A Trump adviser said the former president’s reluctance to relinquish the records stems from his belief that many items created during his term — photos, notes, even a model of Air Force One built to show off a new paint job he had commissioned — are now his personal property, despite a law dating to the 1970s that decreed otherwise," the newspaper reported.

The newspaper interviewed Kelly, who also served as Secretary of Homeland Security and as a four-star Marine Corps general.

“His sense was that the people who are in the intel business are incompetent, and he knew better,” Kelly said. “He didn’t believe in the classification system.”


Former national security adviser John Bolton told the newspaper,“almost nothing would surprise me about what’s in the documents at Mar-a-Lago.”

“People were nervous enough about his lack of concern for classification matters that the briefers typically said, ‘Well, we need to take it back,’” Bolton said. “He’d usually give it back — but sometimes he wouldn’t give it back.”"

John Kelly: Trump ‘didn’t believe in the classification system’ (msn.com)
 
beast crnjo said:
Why was a raid warranted?
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because he broke the law, clear and simple and we have a democracy with checks and balances that your guy has been trying to overthrow in favor of an authoritarian dictatorship or monarchy...not sure if you're an American but that's not allowed in our country and when it comes to lies...don't give me that Trump victim crap....he's the biggest liar to ever hold office and the world knows it. Lock him up....and I'm not a democrat nor did I vote for Hillary. Hillary was questioned for 11 hours over her mistake though and she answered them all....Trump is pleading the 5th when asked questions...big difference. One of those people has a lot more to hide than the other. Trump will be held accountable...book it. All of the big witnesses against Trump are Republicans....wonder why?
 
Hillary should have faced discipline of some kind. She was told what the rules were, and yet went ahead and did as she pleased. Same as Trump is doing now.

The major difference that I see, is that Trump: No longer has clearance to possess classified documents. Also, Trump willingly disregarded attempts to retrieve these "highly sensitive" classified documents. So sensitive that Trump himself was one of the few people who had authorization to even view some of them in the first place. After hearing the nature of these documents. This is a serious breach of security, and Trump should face charges.

(Just my two cents. I have no interest in wasting time on someone filled with this level of hatred for... the other party)
 
Road Ratt said:
Hillary should have faced discipline of some kind. She was told what the rules were, and yet went ahead and did as she pleased. Same as Trump is doing now.

The major difference that I see, is that Trump: No longer has clearance to possess classified documents. Also, Trump willingly disregarded attempts to retrieve these "highly sensitive" classified documents. So sensitive that Trump himself was one of the few people who had authorization to even view some of them in the first place. After hearing the nature of these documents. This is a serious breach of security, and Trump should face charges.

(Just my two cents. I have no interest in wasting time on someone filled with this level of hatred for... the other party)
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Another slight difference let’s be honest is whatever Hillary did didn’t result in a potential civil war outbreak with people wanting to kill the FBI and the entire left side of the country.
 
Road Ratt said:
Hillary should have faced discipline of some kind. She was told what the rules were, and yet went ahead and did as she pleased. Same as Trump is doing now.

The major difference that I see, is that Trump: No longer has clearance to possess classified documents. Also, Trump willingly disregarded attempts to retrieve these "highly sensitive" classified documents. So sensitive that Trump himself was one of the few people who had authorization to even view some of them in the first place. After hearing the nature of these documents. This is a serious breach of security, and Trump should face charges.

(Just my two cents. I have no interest in wasting time on someone filled with this level of hatred for... the other party)
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Hillary lost the election over Benghazi in my opinion...but she didn't take 27 boxes of top secret classified material and incite an insurrection over losing an election...big difference, my 2 cents. As to hatred for a party I sure have no love for the GOP over the last 5 years of lies and partisan bullshit. That party has made governing a tactic of making sure the other party fails to get anything done at any cost....even if it's veterans health care or senior citizens or critical race theory in schools, etc. If the white supremacists and racists support someone's party they might want to reconsider having that allegiance....I'm supporting truth, not paritsan manipulation by lie.
 
beast crnjo said:
Why was a raid warranted? Hillary violated the same rules with her emails. No charge, no raid. Trump had already given them boxes of documents willingly, and was cooperating.

The fbi had better find something really bad....and not fabricated like the russia gate steel dossier bs.

You lefties jump like excited froggies every time some new lie about trump is spun.
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Good lord.
 
beast crnjo said:
Why was a raid warranted? Hillary violated the same rules with her emails. No charge, no raid. Trump had already given them boxes of documents willingly, and was cooperating.

The fbi had better find something really bad....and not fabricated like the russia gate steel dossier bs.

You lefties jump like excited froggies every time some new lie about trump is spun.
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Have you been asleep this entire week? Literally all your questions were answered within 48 hours of the lawfully executed search. Keep up.
 
So strange that Trump supposedly didn't know why things were kept secret, yet still hasn't released his taxes.
 
julius said:
So strange that Trump supposedly didn't know why things were kept secret, yet still hasn't released his taxes.
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Says the documents were planted.

Then says they were already declassified.

If the FBI wanted to get you, why would they plant documents that you said were already declassified?

It's literally mind numbing to me that people think those are logical leaps.
 
Strenuus said:
Says the documents were planted.

Then says they were already declassified.

If the FBI wanted to get you, why would they plant documents that you said were already declassified?

It's literally mind numbing to me that people think those are logical leaps.
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They've been doing these gymnastics for going on 7 years now.
 
riverman said:
because he broke the law, clear and simple and we have a democracy with checks and balances that your guy has been trying to overthrow in favor of an authoritarian dictatorship or monarchy...not sure if you're an American but that's not allowed in our country and when it comes to lies...don't give me that Trump victim crap....he's the biggest liar to ever hold office and the world knows it. Lock him up....and I'm not a democrat nor did I vote for Hillary. Hillary was questioned for 11 hours over her mistake though and she answered them all....Trump is pleading the 5th when asked questions...big difference. One of those people has a lot more to hide than the other. Trump will be held accountable...book it. All of the big witnesses against Trump are Republicans....wonder why?
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Yet when hillary broke the same law, no charges were pressed, no raid. The proof will lie in what kind of documents they uncover.
 
If trump had super inappropriate documents in his possesion, then ill backtrack and say the raid was justified.

But if its personal momento irrelevent shit....
 
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