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yuyuza1 said:
So word from everyone on twitter yesterday, Mason Plumlee is more likely to make the team over Cousins.

Coach K is a pompous ass to begin with-- this just take the cake. Also, the Duke bias looms large, and I predicted that's one of the reasons why Kyrie would make the team.

If Dame gets shafted, I fully expect him to go HAM on whoever is picked over him in NBA games. Especially if it's Kyrie.
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I half-expected Nolan Smith to get an invitation to camp.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Rosters for tonight:

Blue: Curry, Davis, DeRozan, Faried, PG, Hayward, Korver, Plumlee, Rose, Wall
White: Beal, Cousins, Drummond, Durant, Harden, Irving, Lillard, Millsap, Parsons, Thompson

John Schumann from NBA.com says Dame gets cut after the scrimmage tonight.
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John Schumann is an idiot. Colangelo said he's keeping 15 players until the last scrimmage august 30th. Dame is definitely one of those 15.
 
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So how many does that leave? There's still cutting to be done, right?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
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So how many does that leave? There's still cutting to be done, right?
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There were 19 in camp, so now it's down to 15, right, if you include the Paul George injury? Kind of a joke that Plumlee and Faried are still on the roster, while Millsap gets cut, IMO. L

With Beal and Wall gone, it looks like Lillard made the team, though, since he can play SG along with PG.
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
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So how many does that leave? There's still cutting to be done, right?
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Yes, but they want to keep it at 15 until end of August. Still looking possible for Dame.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
Yes, but they want to keep it at 15 until end of August. Still looking possible for Dame.
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I'm surprised Wall and Beal were cut right now. Perhaps the Wizards requested it via back-channels? As it is, here are the guards left.

PG
Irving
Curry
Rose
Lillard

SG

Thompson
Harden
DeRozen

Thompson and Korver (SF) are basically redundant, and Lillard's skill set to play small on and off the ball with another PG makes me really like his chances now.
 
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Korver/Thompson and Hayward/Parsons are redundant. I supposed one could say Curry/Lillard are redundant, but they have a broader skill set, and can be on the court at the same time together.

I really thought Wall was going to make the team over Lillard. Now, I think Dame is a near lock, and yet again, the "experts" are doubting him. Didn't Schuhmann also say that Lillard would be cut on the first cut?
 
Anthony Davis article, with thoughts from Lillard on Davis included.

http://www.nba.com/pelicans/news/anthony-davis-experiences-eventful-week-usa-basketball

USA teammate Damian Lillard, who edged Davis for the Rookie of the Year trophy in 2012-13, said he knew the University of Kentucky product’s potential while watching him lead the Wildcats to a national title in ’12. Lillard, then a relatively unknown senior guard at Weber State, realized that his upside was immense.

“His development is impressive, but I expected it from him,” Lillard said. “When I saw him play in college, I was like ‘He should be in the NBA right now!’

“I think he can be great. I think he can be one of the best, because he’s so tall and so long, but he can really move. He can put the ball on the floor, he can shoot, he’s athletic, a great defender, rim protector. And he’s young. He’s already the leader of a team, the best player on a team. He’s only going to grow and only going to get better. I think the sky’s the limit for him.”
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I would cut Korver, Hayward, and Plumlee. They have no business being out there. None at all. Total joke.

Rose is making a mistake. He shouldn't be playing right now, and quite frankly I don't think he's earned the spot. I would keep Dame, Irving, and Curry.

PG - Dame/Irving/Curry/Rose
SG - Harden/Thompson
SF - Durant/Parsons
PF - Davis/Faried
C - Cousins/Drummond
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would cut Korver, Hayward, and Plumlee. They have no business being out there. None at all. Total joke.
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I bet that if Paul George weren't injured, you'd probably be calling for Parsons to be cut too. Hmm, what's the common thread here...? :devilwink:
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I bet that if Paul George weren't injured, you'd probably be calling for Parsons to be cut too. Hmm, what's the common thread here...? :devilwink:
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I was thinking the same thing. I definitely think the coaches might have a bias, or desire to include white players.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
I was thinking the same thing. I definitely think the coaches might have a bias, or desire to include white players.
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What? Why? The only white American dude last year on the Blazers is bashed non-stop by his own fans, and the two white dudes signed as FAs are being bashed, too.

Plumlee has no business on the USA team. Hayward and Parsons are very similar players, although I think Hayward is the much better player. Korver is a 33 year-old shooter; he's Tim Legler at this point. A specialist. If USA keeps Korver but never plays him, that's a bad pick. I'd say the same thing if Dennis Scott was in his prime trying to make this team, too.
 
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What? Why? The only white American dude last year on the Blazers is bashed non-stop by his own fans, and the two white dudes signed as FAs are being bashed, too.

Plumlee has no business on the USA team. Hayward and Parsons are very similar players, although I think Hayward is the much better player. Korver is a 33 year-old shooter; he's Tim Legler at this point. A specialist. If USA keeps Korver but never plays him, that's a bad pick. I'd say the same thing if Dennis Scott was in his prime trying to make this team, too.
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I think Plumlee and Korver have no business at all being on the team. Hayward isn't a bad player, but I would take Parsons or DeRozan over Hayward. I wasn't impressed with him last season. Plumlee is a joke. Rolo > Plumlee.
 
Surprised Beal and Millsap got the axe so quickly-- they both are versatile enough to actually contribute in many different ways. Not surprised at all about Wall after he looked so awful in the scrimmage.

So it comes down to Dame v Kyrie. If Dame is on the team still for the Brazil game, I'm gonna make a drive up to CHI on the 16th.
 
Dame just sneaks up on people and surprises them. Makes me wonder if even the USA coaches are a little surprised at this point that he is still there.
 
Natebishop3 said:
PG - Dame/Irving/Curry/Rose
SG - Harden/Thompson
SF - Durant/Parsons
PF - Davis/Faried
C - Cousins/Drummond
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I would have to agree with this unless Hayward is tearing it up in practice. If he is playing really well then his "position" may be a bigger need than an extra PG/SG. I agree it may come down to Lillard or Kyrie.

And I also agree that Rose is making a mistake. Participating in the practices was OK to get the rust off, but to play in all the games after missing most of the last two seasons is risky. If I am Thibodeau, I would lobby to cut him for health reasons.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would cut Korver, Hayward, and Plumlee. They have no business being out there. None at all. Total joke.

Rose is making a mistake. He shouldn't be playing right now, and quite frankly I don't think he's earned the spot. I would keep Dame, Irving, and Curry.

PG - Dame/Irving/Curry/Rose
SG - Harden/Thompson
SF - Durant/Parsons
PF - Davis/Faried
C - Cousins/Drummond
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Decent breakdown if they go BPA, but I don't think Drummond makes it. He's got way too many deficiencies to get legit mins right now (bad touch, kinda looks lost, bad FT shooter, etc).

I'd predict this:

PG: Rose, Irving
PG-SG: Curry, Dame
SG-SF: Harden, Thompson
SF-PF: KD, Parsons
PF-C: Davis, Cousins

Extras: Korver, Faried

So very close to your prediction.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Surprised Beal and Millsap got the axe so quickly-- they both are versatile enough to actually contribute in many different ways. Not surprised at all about Wall after he looked so awful in the scrimmage.

So it comes down to Dame v Kyrie. If Dame is on the team still for the Brazil game, I'm gonna make a drive up to CHI on the 16th.
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Dame really made him look bad on defense.
 
Claver not exactly setting the world on fire playing for Spain...

Looking at that boxscore, if it's any indication, the Spaniards are just pounding the ball inside relentlessly. Apart from the Gasols and Ibaka they also have Felipe Reyes, who is a dependable Scola-type scorer, and pretty burly. I wonder if that's going to affect who Team USA keeps on the roster?

(I also love that the Canadians have a player called Scrubb. I bet he never hears the end of it...)
 
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spain could easily take this, wasnt durant going to play pf? is there who is starting now, faried?
 
Boise Blazer said:
Kevin Durant withdraws from Team USA, won't play in FIBA World Cup
http://teamstre.am/1kMlhuS
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They have no choice but to play small ball now.


Anthony Davis at Center, one of the small forwards, like Chandler Parson playing the 4, and 3 guards. They should be fine.


Coach K prefers that anyhow. And really, will it be much of a problem against any team but Spain?
 
Wow! Yeah, Spain has to be genuinely confident at this point. I wonder if that'll put a dent in Durant's squeaky-clean image. That's almost worse than not showing up to begin with. And dropping out AFTER they lose Paul George, when the team needs him most?
 
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