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FWIW the 8th spot in the draft this year was the Detroit Pistons who finshed 32-50 and drafted Stanley Johnson. Not that we cant trade up but just to give you an idea
 
If our pick ends up in the top 2, my darkhorse would be sending the pick for Bradley Beal. Washington could put Labissiere or Simmons at the 4 next to Wall and Gortat and end up with $50M in cap space to get Durant and another allstar. They'd probably just try to pair Durant with Beal and Wall but you never know.

Draft-wise, Malik Newman is a little undersized at 6'4 for a SG, but he's athletic and can score. Brandon Ingram is a possibility at 5 or 6, but I don't know too much about him.
 
BonesJones said:
If our pick ends up in the top 2, my darkhorse would be sending the pick for Bradley Beal. Washington could put Labissiere or Simmons at the 4 next to Wall and Gortat and end up with $50M in cap space to get Durant and another allstar. They'd probably just try to pair Durant with Beal and Wall but you never know.

Draft-wise, Malik Newman is a little undersized at 6'4 for a SG, but he's athletic and can score. Brandon Ingram is a possibility at 5 or 6, but I don't know too much about him.
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See? Id rather see something like this if we get a solid draft pick. Unless there is a player that EVEYRONE knows will start coming out of the gates and fits our need perfectly, then I would rather package it with a trade for a solid PROVEN All Star.

Besides. Its all moot. We are winning 42+ games this year. I said it first!
 
oldfisherman said:
No secret the SG talent pool is shallow. Ways to acquire an all-star caliber SG?

Trade? The teams that have an all-star caliber SG are holding on to them.
Free agents? Nothing left this season, and next season’s pickings look slim.
Draft? Not sure how accurate this is, but the mock draft from NBAdraft.net has the first SG picked at #9. Does not appear the 2016 daft is deep in SG talent.

I understand the need for an all-star caliber SG, but why not look at finding an all-star caliber SF? Kind of an “any all-star caliber wing” in a storm reasoning.

“Media Experts” are ranking this Blazers roster @ #29. The only team predicted to be worse will be the 76ers. The good news is, this would imply we land a very good draft pick, probably in the top three. There are some nice SFs ranked high in the 2016 draft that have the potential to develop into all-stars.
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29th best? I think people forget that Lillard actually stayed... and yeah 2016 sucks. Labissiere is gonna be a superstar, Ben Simmons an all star, and the rest role players.. Jaylen Brown is overrated as hell in my opinion. He's average at everything except for he has decent athleticism and an nba ready body. Thing is once he gets here the nba ready body won't be an advantage anymore and his athleticism will be on par with most wings. There's probably a diamond in the rough allstar, and my bets would be on Newman.
 
BlazerWookee said:
The lottery should be small consolation, not a goal.
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Consolation? It's not a prize pool for runners-up, it's the cheapest way to acquire talent.

Of course the lottery isn't the ultimate goal, but if you're going to suck anyway (and after losing 4 starters one way or another, that seems the likeliest outcome) you might as well look at the positive side of all that sucking.

Besides, the topic of conversation is what is the best way to get the next Drexler? Not whether or not the lottery is good or bad. Based on everything we know about the NBA, what do you think the best way to acquire an All-NBA caliber player is in a small market?
 
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Nikolokolus said:
Consolation? It's not a prize pool for runner-ups, it's the cheapest way to acquire talent.

Of course the lottery isn't the ultimate goal, but if you're going to suck anyway (and after losing 4 starters one way or another, that seems the likeliest outcome) you might as well look at the positive side of all that sucking.

Besides, the topic of conversation is what is the best way to get the next Drexler? Not whether or not the lottery is good or bad. Based on everything we know about the NBA, what do you think the best way to acquire an All-NBA caliber player is in a small market?
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But would the draft quality impact your decision on the best route?
 
oldfisherman said:
“Media Experts” are ranking this Blazers roster @ #29. The only team predicted to be worse will be the 76ers. The good news is, this would imply we land a very good draft pick, probably in the top three. There are some nice SFs ranked high in the 2016 draft that have the potential to develop into all-stars.
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To be fair that article was about starting lineups, not overall roster, in fact pointed out that Portlands bench is actually pretty strong so won't be the 2nd worst team in the league
 
Nikolokolus said:
Consolation? It's not a prize pool for runner-ups, it's the cheapest way to acquire talent.

Of course the lottery isn't the ultimate goal, but if you're going to suck anyway (and after losing 4 starters one way or another, that seems the likeliest outcome) you might as well look at the positive side of all that sucking.

Besides, the topic of conversation is what is the best way to get the next Drexler? Not whether or not the lottery is good or bad. Based on everything we know about the NBA, what do you think the best way to acquire an All-NBA caliber player is in a small market?
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I agree that it can't be a consolation, but it certainly can't be a goal. Gotta try to win so you develop these guys.
 
Orion Bailey said:
But would the draft quality impact your decision on the best route?
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I don't see this as a one-time lottery team honestly. With the strength and depth in the West the Blazers are probably 2-3 years away from playoff contention (barring trades and unforeseen expedited development of a couple of guys - Vonleh, etc.).
 
If also say watch out for Harrison Barnes. If we nearly max him out we might get him, sonsince Golden State would has so many guys to pay. but I could also see us sign and trading for him using our pick. So they save money and still have a decent young player
 
Nikolokolus said:
I don't see this as a one-time lottery team honestly. With the strength and depth in the West the Blazers are probably 2-3 years away from playoff contention (barring trades and unforeseen expedited development of a couple of guys - Vonleh, etc.).
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We will have to agree to disagree on this. But even still every year you tweak. So wouldn't the quality of the draft class impact your idea of best way to find the next Drexler?
 
Orion Bailey said:
We will have to agree to disagree on this. But even still every year you tweak. So wouldn't the quality of the draft class impact your idea of best way to find the next Drexler?
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Frankly the whole thing is just a thought experiment. If you have three avenues to acquiring an All-NBA player: trades, free agency and the draft. Most teams in small markets seem to make the most hay via the draft. That's all I'm talking about here.
 
Players and coach are always going to try to win. I don't think the organization is projecting and intention to lose to the players. Philly though is pretty clearly not caring about winning at all. Portland may not win many games but that will be attributed to simply not having the front end elite talent needed. They will though try to win every game.
 
My dream scenario for that type of wing is sending something Denvers way for our 2016 pick back, cuz it'll be assumed to be a lotto pick for the next 2 years. Send Crabbe, Kaman and a future 2nd to LAC for a future 1st, then at the deadline packaging Vonleh, Plumlee, Aminu, (Maybe CJ too), our 2016 1st (top 2 protected), and 2 other future firsts to go get Cousins once the Kings blowup, then going hard after Durant. trying to sell him on a big 3 of
Lillard/Durant/Cousins. I think that trade could net Cousins and I think that K'D would at least have to think about coming here.
 
i would do a trade for harrison barnes. and if we somehow get ben mclemore without trading away our 1st round pick next year then let do this thing.
 
damianlillard said:
i would do a trade for harrison barnes. and if we somehow get ben mclemore without trading away our 1st round pick next year then let do this thing.
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Le sigh.

We already traded our first next year. We can't trade it again until after we make the pick if we can keep it due to protections on the pick
 
BonesJones said:
My dream scenario for that type of wing is sending something Denvers way for our 2016 pick back, cuz it'll be assumed to be a lotto pick for the next 2 years. Send Crabbe, Kaman and a future 2nd to LAC for a future 1st, then at the deadline packaging Vonleh, Plumlee, Aminu, (Maybe CJ too), our 2016 1st (top 2 protected), and 2 other future firsts to go get Cousins once the Kings blowup, then going hard after Durant. trying to sell him on a big 3 of
Lillard/Durant/Cousins. I think that trade could net Cousins and I think that K'D would at least have to think about coming here.
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Our pick is top 14 protected in 2016 and 2017, If the pick isn't conveyed then it becomes a 2nd rounder I believe in 2018.
 
BonesJones said:
contracts won't get you in the gym an hour and a half before practice, they'll just make you play harder during games.
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Are you really going to make me bust out the Allen Iverson "Practice?!" youtube clip?
 
Schilly said:
Our pick is top 14 protected in 2016 and 2017, If the pick isn't conveyed then it becomes a 2nd rounder I believe in 2018.
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Which is why making the playoffs this year or next would be counterproductive to the talent acquisition phase the team is in.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Le sigh.

We already traded our first next year. We can't trade it again until after we make the pick if we can keep it due to protections on the pick
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Theoretically, we could trade a "first available" pick, which would be either 2018 or 2019.
 
Actually after the season is over if we miss the playoffs we retain the pick and could then trade it.
 
Schilly said:
Actually after the season is over if we miss the playoffs we retain the pick and could then trade it.
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Stepein rule. Can't have two consecutive years traded at once. So I believe it would have to be after we make the selection
 
It resets each year, past drafts aren't factored.
 
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