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Blazinaway said:
Idiotic statement on Winslow, guy was good IMO in Miami, had some significant injuries past 2 years like a hip replacement and is just now getting healthy. Can he stay healthy? that's the big Q, but he already has shown he has talent to be a rotation player - get a fukkin clue
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Lol Winslow hasn’t done shit in the NBA
 
riverman said:
I don't know why people can be so consistently upset with the team then.....I guessed about gambling losses...those folks are usually emo over sports failures and I don't claim anyone in particular...just speculation like people talking about me and how it sucks I'm enjoying the franchise making moves. I didn't say degenerate either.....my mom was a gambler...sweet lady..Mick and You have been here since before me....well shit then....I must be wrong! I've always been part of the Blazers official msg board...moved here when the original one changed to S2 on HCPs recommendation....45 years as a fan...yeah...you are much more experienced than me at posting on a msg board...c'mon man...try talking about the Blazers and stop talking about me...that might help your cause
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I don’t lose sleep over whether my team is good or bad. It’s scale of importance to me is so little in the grand scheme of things.

But, to get absolutely fleeced in a trade and then to read people actually trying to put a cherry on top of the turd of a trade is worthy of getting questioned.

oh and I gamble on sports occasionally. Rarely on the Blazers. It’s kind of a weird thing to throw at the wall and hope sticks.

This trade has no justification and made my team worse so of course I’m not going to put blind faith in our rookie GM’s blunder.
 
MickZagger said:
Hard to say, a package of young prospects. I’d do it for Jaylen Brown and a first.

I’d do it for Simmons package.
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I'm guessing both those would be on the table. I don't agree that decreasing top end talent is our best path to becoming a contender, but I see your angle.
 
Tince said:
I'm guessing both those would be on the table. I don't agree that decreasing top end talent is our best path to becoming a contender, but I see your angle.
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When he’s aging and clear that you can’t put a formidable team around him.
 
Forget RoCo and the 3 Clipper players, all of whom are NBA irrelevancies.

In terms of the Blazers' rebuilding effort, they traded Powell for a 2nd round pick. By contrast, Indy traded LaVert and a 2nd for two seconds and a conditional first.

Powell is not a star, he is not special, whatever. Neither is LaVert. Somehow, their difference in value is a first round pick? Bull-Dada. The most charitable spin you can put on this deal is that it will save the Blazers a modest amount of money. Those of you who are rationalizing this deal will have to excuse the majority of fans for whom a decent team on the court is a higher priority. And let us not forget that Jody Allen has no personal financial stake in all this. She runs the team, but does not own it in the traditional sense.
 
MickZagger said:
When he’s aging and clear that you can’t put a formidable team around him.
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I'm of the belief that if you can't build a team around the best player you've ever had, then the problem isn't the player, it's whoever is building/financing the operation.

Along the same lines of why I felt like firing Stotts wasn't addressing the root of the problem.
 
Fez Forthright said:
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You see that he couldn't cite one example of this being true?

There are other writers (who are still employed) out there who have wrote the exact opposite about Powell's contract. It was too big/long for a role player.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
2nd all rookie team and 6 years ago.

I feel like there have been many 2nd all rookie team players that have amounted to nothing. I wouldn't hang my hat on something 6 years ago.
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6th amongst rookies in voting. So yeah that is 2nd team. It shows he has skills as does the video of him playing last year in Memphis.
Not saying he should start, but we always need a good defender on the bench who can actually dribble, pass and score around the basket. None of which RoCo could do as well.
 
riverman said:
People have been hanging onto the 2016 season and playoffs for 6 years around here....never understood it but people do hang their hat on shit that happened 6 years ago. I don't so much but it's always been a theme around here to cite 2016 mistakes and talk about missing out on draft selections.
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You are equating two different things. One was a summer where we potentially could have improved our supporting cast around Dame.

The other is hoping a player that showed a little promise 6 years ago is suddenly going to be something. Not impossible. Just very improbable.
 
Tince said:
I'm of the belief that if you can't build a team around the best player you've ever had, then the problem isn't the player, it's whoever is building/financing the operation.

Along the same lines of why I felt like firing Stotts wasn't addressing the root of the problem.
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Exactly. Incompetent front office has been kind of a theme in Portland for awhile.
 
riverman said:
That's not what you said...you said stop posting what I posted.......I can post whatever I want and I never said you couldn't....it's over..try walking that walk because the argument you're fishing for isn't something I'm interested in debating..
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he said that because YOU were telling others to move on. Basically telling them to not post about it anymore….


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SlyPokerCat said:
Stopppppp. Having a starting SG at a reasonable deal for 5 years is totally a cancer of a contract!

Yeah, that's my spin.
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I would bet money that some of the same people now claiming Powell's contract is bad were praising it when Olshey gave it to him last summer. Back then, having him signed for 5 years was a victory and Olshey was brilliant for executing it. A"a valuable trade asset!" they claimed. 6 months later, the contract is bad and Cronin is brilliant for dumping it
 
wizenheimer said:
I would bet money that some of the people now claiming Powell's contract is bad were praising it when Olshey gave it to him last summer. Back then, having him signed for 5 years was a victory and Olshey was brilliant for executing it. A"a valuable trade asset!" they claimed. 6 months later, the contract is bad and Cronin is brilliant for dumping it
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when Powell was signed i don't remember a single negative comment. Most everyone thought it meant cj was going out aNd was ecstatic overall of the contract for the starting sg position i think most of us thought he would take over.
 
riverman said:
I don't tell people what to post....move on means the trade is done...get over it...which I'll say again. I was the person told to shut up about my opinion by the person you're referencing who also called me a Q'Anon type fan...yeah....details. Fuck all that....I talk about the topic...others choose to talk about me....common problem around here.
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Then I would suggest making that clear. Im pretty sure myself and most everyone else read when you posted ”move on dude” meant, stop posting about how bad of a trade it was. Not that YOU had moved on.
 
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riverman said:
move on....it's a done deal....I'll print a T shirt is you like....I told you specifically you don't need to...you can waller in angst over the trade and see if it makes anything change...an exercise in pure futility in my view but knock yourself out
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can you blame anyone for thinking you were telling them to move on and stop posting aBout it?

your post starts with, “move on… done deal”.

how can you spin this as you saying you moved on?????
 
wizenheimer said:
I would bet money that some of the same people now claiming Powell's contract is bad were praising it when Olshey gave it to him last summer. Back then, having him signed for 5 years was a victory and Olshey was brilliant for executing it. A"a valuable trade asset!" they claimed. 6 months later, the contract is bad and Cronin is brilliant for dumping it
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