Fire Stotts Eventually (1 Viewer)

[Scalma]

I posed this question to someone else, but I'm curious on your thoughts as to why you think she'd be the best fit? I know very little about Hammon's philosophy and the way she'd manage a roster.

don’t need a deep dive on her philosophies, she’s co-signed by popovich. That’s good enough for me. He’s one of the greatest coaches of all time, and his tree is strong.

 

[wizenheimer]

I'd be in favor of Portland making history by hiring the first female head coach in NBA history.

 

[Scalma]

Terry could’ve just said they made shots and saved a minute.

 

[Chris Craig]

I posed this question to someone else, but I'm curious on your thoughts as to why you think she'd be the best fit? I know very little about Hammon's philosophy and the way she'd manage a roster.

Because she lives and breathes basketball. She has one of the best basketball IQs around, is an analytical mind who is an expert at reading the game and at putting together schemes. The players respect her and she has been under Pops wing for years.

 

[Tince]

Because she lives and breathes basketball. She has one of the best basketball IQs around, is an analytical mind who is an expert at reading the game and at putting together schemes. The players respect her and she has been under Pops wing for years.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but how do you know this? How much more does she live and breath basketball compared to other qualified candiates? What is her basketball IQ? How does that compare with other candiates? Seems like some grand statements to make, so I would hope there is more evidence to go off of than quotes, because we can find very positive quotes about most any coach.

Again, I'm not saying she sucks or she's great, I have no clue. I know Pop endorses her publically. I know prior to her arrival the Spurs had won 50+ games in like 15 straight seasons. This season will be their 4th consecutive year they won't win 50 games.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

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I just know the Blazers would be a great fit for her.

What are her qualifications, besides working with Pop?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I'd be in favor of Portland making history by hiring the first female head coach in NBA history.

Isn't this kind of like signing Melo, because he is a legend?

 

[TBpup]

Some people are worried about hiring firing Stotts because they are not sure who is better.
We were down 44-24 in the 1st quarter to......the Charlotte Hornets.

At the point, who wouldn't be better?

 

[Minstrel]

Isn't this kind of like signing Melo, because he is a legend?

If you hire her only for that reason, yes. If you hire her for basketball reasons, that makes a cool add-on.

 

[BBert]

Whoever edited the thread title misspelled "immediately".

 

[Tince]

 

[GDiama]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but how do you know this? How much more does she live and breath basketball compared to other qualified candiates? What is her basketball IQ? How does that compare with other candiates? Seems like some grand statements to make, so I would hope there is more evidence to go off of than quotes, because we can find very positive quotes about most any coach.

Again, I'm not saying she sucks or she's great, I have no clue. I know Pop endorses her publically. I know prior to her arrival the Spurs had won 50+ games in like 15 straight seasons. This season will be their 4th consecutive year they won't win 50 games.

And I suppose it has nothing to do with Kawhi being off the team for 4th consecutive year?

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Using your analogy, Dame and CJ are the main ingredients and Stotts is the chef tasked with making them taste good.

It appears many want us to be ranked top 1 or 2 (Michelin 3-star restaurants) without using all the top cuts of meats the other 3* restaurants use, we only get one choice cut. Not saying it's impossible to be the best, but not a strategy one should expect world class results from.

History says you need a couple choice cuts or the very best cut in the world to end up on top. Someone isn't providing those ingredients.

Continuing the cooking analogy, I have used used the same ingredients as my wife to cook the same dish. Mine turns out edible but not great. Hers, using the same ingredients will turn out great.

Sometimes it is not a matter of changing the ingredients, but changing the cook so that the ingredients can be used to their fullest potential (and who knows, sometimes those ingredients when used properly, turn out to be something you'd find at a 3* restaurant).

Just because we don't have a second all-star doesn't necessarily mean we don't have the potential for a second all-star. Perhaps they just are being used properly to reveal their true potential.

Many have talked in the past about how CJ, if he had his own team, could/would likely be an all-star. Does that mean he would? No. But it means that people see that capability in him. Just because he isn't doesn't mean he can't.

Change the cook first, then tweak the ingredients as needed/able.

Gramps...

 

[Tince]

And I suppose it has nothing to do with Kawhi being off the team for 4th consecutive year?

I think it's more than a valid reason. Others have strongly disagreed with my stance about star talent, so you'll likely receive some push back.

 

[Tince]

Continuing the cooking analogy, I have used used the same ingredients as my wife to cook the same dish. Mine turns out edible but not great. Hers, using the same ingredients will turn out great.

Sometimes it is not a matter of changing the ingredients, but changing the cook so that the ingredients can be used to their fullest potential (and who knows, sometimes those ingredients when used properly, turn out to be something you'd find at a 3* restaurant).

Just because we don't have a second all-star doesn't necessarily mean we don't have the potential for a second all-star. Perhaps they just are being used properly to reveal their true potential.

Many have talked in the past about how CJ, if he had his own team, could/would likely be an all-star. Does that mean he would? No. But it means that people see that capability in him. Just because he isn't doesn't mean he can't.

Change the cook first, then tweak the ingredients as needed/able.

Gramps...

I like the anology. I think your solution is far less likely than mine to become top 1-2, but we'll likely find out shortly if the cook really makes a massive difference.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

I like the anology. I think your solution is far less likely than mine to become top 1-2, but we'll likely find out shortly if the cook really makes a massive difference.

I'm not saying my solution ends with replacing the cook, just that it is the first step. I think the too-closely-matched-skillset-and-doubly-defensively-weak back court has regularly shown its limitations and the need to have another star (or near all-star) player in a more complementary position is evident. I just think after so much changing of ingredients over the years with repeated similar outcomes, we need to start by changing the cook.

You make some excellent points and I am not trying to dispute them, just saying where I feel we should start. I'm afraid that even if we had Joel Embiid and Kawhi Leonard, the track record does not engender a high confidence in the desired outcome.

Gramps...

 

[Tince]

I'm not saying my solution ends with replacing the cook, just that it is the first step. I think the too-closely-matched-skillset-and-doubly-defensively-weak back court has regularly shown its limitations and the need to have another star (or near all-star) player in a more complementary position is evident. I just think after so much changing of ingredients over the years with repeated similar outcomes, we need to start by changing the cook.

You make some excellent points and I am not trying to dispute them, just saying where I feel we should start. I'm afraid that even if we had Joel Embiid and Kawhi Leonard, the track record does not engender a high confidence in the desired outcome.

Gramps...

Likewise, I appreciate your perspective! I also agree that rotating around the fringe ingredients has been done and does not appear to be the solution.

 

[wizenheimer]

Likewise, I appreciate your perspective! I also agree that rotating around the fringe ingredients has been done and does not appear to be the solution.

Olshey stubbornly clings to his notion of his Blazer core and keeps rearranging the supporting cast, hoping for a solution. Portland's problems aren't in the middle of the rotation, they are at the top

 

[Hoopguru]

New Ownership is needed to rejuvenate Rip City!
Let the fans purchase the franchise!

 

[Phatguysrule]

New Ownership is needed to rejuvenate Rip City!
Let the fans purchase the franchise!

How would this work?

 

[Tince]

How would this work?

People would buy shares (like a publically traded company) and would have voting rights to appoint the board who basically acts as ownership. Incredibly complicated and you have no ability to restrict shareholders to "fans", it could be fans of any team who buys in and votes accordingly.

 

[Phatguysrule]

People would buy shares (like a publically traded company) and would have voting rights to appoint the board who basically acts as ownership. Incredibly complicated and you have no ability to restrict shareholders to "fans", it could be fans of any team who buys in and votes accordingly.

You can't restrict ownership to Oregon and Washington?

At $1000 per share you'd need 2 million shareholders... If you could get a $2 billion purchase price.

 

[Minstrel]

The Green Bay Packers are owned as a collective, aren't they?

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Quick article today in The Athletic says Stotts won't be fired this season. /Thread.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Quick article today in The Athletic says Stotts won't be fired this season. /Thread.

Not to steal his name or anything but the Stotts-led Blazers have become the NBA’s version of Mediocre Man.

Always hanging in/near the playoffs. Not the worst team by any means but also a clear step away from the best.

I’ve largely learned to temper my hopes and expectations accordingly but sometimes the overly optimistic fan in me gets in the way and I end up more disappointed than I would like.

 

[mook]

 

[Chris Craig]

Quick article today in The Athletic says Stotts won't be fired this season. /Thread.

Makes it sound like he will be gone this offseason though

 

[Tince]

You can't restrict ownership to Oregon and Washington?

At $1000 per share you'd need 2 million shareholders... If you could get a $2 billion purchase price.

I'm not sure how you would be able to do that, but maybe.

 

[Strenuus]

Quick article today in The Athletic says Stotts won't be fired this season. /Thread.

Off-season isn't the season..

Thread open.

 

[Scalma]

Quick article today in The Athletic says Stotts won't be fired this season. /Thread.

he actually didn’t say that. He said it *appears* he’ll last through the season, and reading the article it seemed more like his guess than actual reporting.