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How good do you think Terry Stotts is a s a coach?

  • Top 5

    Votes: 9 5.8%

  • Top 10

    Votes: 44 28.6%

  • Top 20

    Votes: 35 22.7%

  • Needs to go!

    Votes: 51 33.1%

  • He's the very best!

    Votes: 2 1.3%

  • Lets hope he continues to improve.

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Total voters
    154

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Tince said:
Add Brad Stevens to the list of the coaches who should be available according to the twitter experts. We're going to have a lot of great options to replace Stotts with. Sadly, the complaints about him are the same, so maybe we don't want him?









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Stevens imo has under performed with talent they’ve had.
 
Wait, so Brad Stevens sucks again? I thought he was headed to the HOF according to some here.
 
Another coach likely to be available to fill our vacancy...









 
Appears the the Heat have quit on Spoelstra after losing by 47 tonight, so maybe he'll be available. Granted it's tough to win starting Harkless and Meyers.

Problem with him, he let the Bucks start the game on a 12-0 run before calling a timeout and later an 11-0 run before a timeout, which is a deal breaker for some.

I'd take him though!
 
I'm fine with firing Stotts, if we're going to get a choice of Kerr, Stevens, Popovich, Spoelstra or Vogel. Hopefully, Rick Carlisle will also prove to be terrible by losing a few games and he gets his walking papers too.

I've never been against firing Stotts--I've just been against firing him unless the team has a better option in mind. Firing him so fans can vent their spleens isn't a good enough reason, for me. I think Stotts is a mediocre coach, which ties him with about 80-90% of coaches in the league, the group that performs about as well as their talent would indicate. He's not in the bottom 5-10% of coaches that can tank real talent (let's say, a PJ Carlisimo sort) or in the top 5-10% of coaches that can get better results than the talent would explain (like a Popovich).
 
Minstrel said:
I'm fine with firing Stotts, if we're going to get a choice of Kerr, Stevens, Popovich, Spoelstra or Vogel. Hopefully, Rick Carlisle will also prove to be terrible by losing a few games and he gets his walking papers too.

I've never been against firing Stotts--I've just been against firing him unless the team has a better option in mind. Firing him so fans can vent their spleens isn't a good enough reason, for me. I think Stotts is a mediocre coach, which ties him with about 80-90% of coaches in the league, the group that performs about as well as their talent would indicate. He's not in the bottom 5-10% of coaches that can tank real talent (let's say, a PJ Carlisimo sort) or in the top 5-10% of coaches that can get better results than the talent would explain (like a Popovich).
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I just want a coach that isn't going to hand the ball to the players and tell them to go have fun. It's clear he has zero control over Dame/CJ/Melo etc.
 
Before we got Stotts I advocated for Budenholzer. I’ve always like Thibodeu, though he’s the type that actually holds players accountable.

Stevens is probably my favorite coach in the league.

Spoelstra is a great coach. But he took Miami to the finals last year.

The new trend is hiring unheard of guys who started as video coordinators and worked their way up. Or former star PG’s.
 
Coach @HCP for the win!
MickZagger said:
Before we got Stotts I advocated for Budenholzer. I’ve always like Thibodeu, though he’s the type that actually holds players accountable.

Stevens is probably my favorite coach in the league.

Spoelstra is a great coach. But he took Miami to the finals last year.

The new trend is hiring unheard of guys who started as video coordinators and worked their way up. Or former star PG’s.
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MickZagger said:
Really? That nucleus since he’s been there has been really young.
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MickZagger said:
Really? That nucleus since he’s been there has been really young.
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Not really go look at the rosters since 2013 he had a number of teams with solid vets and all stars. He's a decent coach but hasn't gotten them over the hump like many coaches in the NBA are not able to do.
 
Hoopguru said:
Not really go look at the rosters since 2013 he had a number of teams with solid vets and all stars. He's a decent coach but hasn't gotten them over the hump like many coaches in the NBA are not able to do.
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The guy named LeBron has held a lot of coaches out of the finals and he's got to the finals with some real marginal coaches himself.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I just want a coach that isn't going to hand the ball to the players and tell them to go have fun. It's clear he has zero control over Dame/CJ/Melo etc.
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It’s clear that you think this is true. I suspect reality is considerably different. Is Stotts going to give those guys minutes? Sure. Dame and CJ are the team’s stars so, of course, they get minutes. Olshey made certain commitments to Melo before the new contract was signed. Melo was told he’d come off the bench but still would play a significant role. Stotts was almost certainly consulted on that so he’s just living up to what was agreed upon. That’s smart on the team’s part. Screwing a sure-fire Hall of Fame player in his swan song season wouldn’t do anything to help the team in future player negotiations. That said, there are no doubt expectations on Melo as to what he does with his minutes. If he proves unable to meet his end of the bargain, things will change. The Blazers want to compete for a title and obligations to Melo do not outweigh that overall objective.
 
Tince said:
The guy named LeBron has held a lot of coaches out of the finals and he's got to the finals with some real marginal coaches himself.
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Yep...99% of the time you need super star plus to open the Champaign bottle.
 
e_blazer said:
It’s clear that you think this is true. I suspect reality is considerably different. Is Stotts going to give those guys minutes? Sure. Dame and CJ are the team’s stars so, of course, they get minutes. Olshey made certain commitments to Melo before the new contract was signed. Melo was told he’d come off the bench but still would play a significant role. Stotts was almost certainly consulted on that so he’s just living up to what was agreed upon. That’s smart on the team’s part. Screwing a sure-fire Hall of Fame player in his swan song season wouldn’t do anything to help the team in future player negotiations. That said, there are no doubt expectations on Melo as to what he does with his minutes. If he proves unable to meet his end of the bargain, things will change. The Blazers want to compete for a title and obligations to Melo do not outweigh that overall objective.
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I'm sure there were promises in OKC and Houston too but what does it show a team when someone doesn't have to earn their minutes and/or does things detrimental to the teams' success while on the court but still plays. What does it tell all of the young guys on our team? That their hard work doesn't mean anything? What would be more detrimental to this team's image around the league, getting a washed up HOFer to play his role if he wants to play at all or pandering to him to the detriment of his team and teammates?

No one should have minutes owed to them, not because of a contract and not because of their previous accomplishments. Every minute played and when it's played should be assigned by the coach to give the team the best chance to win every game. Unless the coach is experimenting with rotations but that again would include not owing any single player any minutes at any time.
 
blazerkor said:
I'm sure there were promises in OKC and Houston too but what does it show a team when someone doesn't have to earn their minutes and/or does things detrimental to the teams' success while on the court but still plays. What does it tell all of the young guys on our team? That their hard work doesn't mean anything? What would be more detrimental to this team's image around the league, getting a washed up HOFer to play his role if he wants to play at all or pandering to him to the detriment of his team and teammates?

No one should have minutes owed to them, not because of a contract and not because of their previous accomplishments. Every minute played and when it's played should be assigned by the coach to give the team the best chance to win every game. Unless the coach is experimenting with rotations but that again would include not owing any single player any minutes at any time.
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Who are you saying clearly deserves minutes at the backup PF spot ahead of Melo? Giles looks to me to be the only other option until Collins is cleared for action. IMO, Giles hasn’t shown enough consistently enough to warrant a decision to bench Melo after just two poor performances.

This place is so fricking knee jerk over-reactive.
 
e_blazer said:
Who are you saying clearly deserves minutes at the backup PF spot ahead of Melo? Giles looks to me to be the only other option until Collins is cleared for action. IMO, Giles hasn’t shown enough consistently enough to warrant a decision to bench Melo after just two poor performances.

This place is so fricking knee jerk over-reactive.
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Giles is an amazing passer though. I don't think we need Melo's scoring with CJ/GTJ out there.
 
e_blazer said:
Who are you saying clearly deserves minutes at the backup PF spot ahead of Melo? Giles looks to me to be the only other option until Collins is cleared for action. IMO, Giles hasn’t shown enough consistently enough to warrant a decision to bench Melo after just two poor performances.

This place is so fricking knee jerk over-reactive.
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Who says you need a "back up" PF. It seemed like we did a great job against the Lakers using lineups that had Hood or Gary playing forward next to either RoCo or Jones. I'm not saying anyone should or should not get minutes. I'm saying that those minutes need to be earned not owed. I wouldn't bench Melo... I just wouldn't be beholden to him for anything ever. I wouldn't be afraid to tell him that his playing time is contingent upon him playing his role and I wouldn't be against pulling him from the game if he went iso a few times instead of moving the ball the way we were without him.
 
Once Zach comes back I'd like to see him in both the backup PF/C spots.
 
blazerkor said:
Who says you need a "back up" PF. It seemed like we did a great job against the Lakers using lineups that had Hood or Gary playing forward next to either RoCo or Jones. I'm not saying anyone should or should not get minutes. I'm saying that those minutes need to be earned not owed. I wouldn't bench Melo... I just wouldn't be beholden to him for anything ever. I wouldn't be afraid to tell him that his playing time is contingent upon him playing his role and I wouldn't be against pulling him from the game if he went iso a few times instead of moving the ball the way we were without him.
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You seem to have overlooked the last few sentences of my original post. While I think there were agreements between the team and Melo about what his role would be here, I don't think that they outweigh the overall importance of competing for a title. If he can't hold up his end of the bargain, his minutes will go to someone else. Two games is a pretty small sample size to be making that call. Iso players seem to drive some people nuts. To me, whether it's Melo, CJ, or back a decade ago, Brandon Roy, it's about production when a player goes into isolation sets. Melo has had a long career as a pretty effective isolation player, but so far he's not looking good this season when he does that. Maybe he's lost a step or two, or maybe he's just been off. I think playing against bench players, he should be able to be effective with bully-ball moves, but he's going to have to show that he can perform that way at his current age.
 
e_blazer said:
You seem to have overlooked the last few sentences of my original post. While I think there were agreements between the team and Melo about what his role would be here, I don't think that they outweigh the overall importance of competing for a title. If he can't hold up his end of the bargain, his minutes will go to someone else. Two games is a pretty small sample size to be making that call. Iso players seem to drive some people nuts. To me, whether it's Melo, CJ, or back a decade ago, Brandon Roy, it's about production when a player goes into isolation sets. Melo has had a long career as a pretty effective isolation player, but so far he's not looking good this season when he does that. Maybe he's lost a step or two, or maybe he's just been off. I think playing against bench players, he should be able to be effective with bully-ball moves, but he's going to have to show that he can perform that way at his current age.
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I went back and looked at it just now and you're right I didn't really process what you said at the end of that first post. We're a lot closer to being on the same page than it might seem looking at all of the posts together. It was the beginning of the post that was too close to home and I also see happening with the team. In the interview after the last game Stotts said that Melo won't be losing his spot in rotation... and it didn't seem like he was saying right now, it seemed like he was saying that it's not up for review any time soon. Stotts was then asked a follow up question about if that was because of what Melo had done in the past more than what he might be doing right now and Stotts said yes and went on about not only it being his career but what he did last year.

I don't give a shit about his career or last year. I just don't. Especially for a player with that many miles on him that has always had the attitude and game he's had. So all of this frustration I have isn't towards you or even a summation of your comments but more what I see happening with our team constantly (whether it's Melo or CJ or Ant the other night). Terry gets stuff stuck in his head and is in no way flexible about it quick enough.

I agree with you that there are way too many knee jerk reactions in here... and I complain about that a lot myself, in and out of game threads. That being said Terry needs to react to situations quicker. It's one thing to have faith in your players to work their way out of situations but it's another thing to tell the world that you are going to blindly play a guy based on his Hall of Fame status and what he did for the team last season, when the fact is that the team salvaged his career last season more than he salvaged the team's season.
 
We’re at the point that every day that the Blazers retain Stotts, the opportunity cost of keeping him just increases exponentially. If they don’t make a move soon, by the time they realize Stotts isn’t the right coach, Dame will be well past his prime and they would have wasted Dame’s prime years.
 
It's been a long time since I bashed Stotts for being a puppet. This season gonna be even better, cos of Melo. Hierarchy in this team was well established before. Lillard owns this team, then his best friend CJ and there was Stotts. Now Stotts went down to fourth man and Melo is jumping like a ponny.

At this point I'm starting to put blame on Lillard. There suppose to be culture in this team. Instead, Lillard brings his cousin to the game (and forgive me, I got nothing against this guy and wish him luck, but there is no backup for this signing).

I thught that Stotts is a nice guy, but I got enough. I think he is "just a white guy on the bench".
Could be Nurk bit unhappy if Stotts giving him a hard time and lettin Melo do Melo?
Will Giles ever see minutes?
Is Simmons quiet guy, that isn't evolving cos of BAD CULTURE this team has?

Well, if Lillard wants to win something, he should try a coach. Coach that could at least be second in this team, not fourth and seemingly going even lower.
 
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