Fire Stotts Eventually (3 Viewers)

[wizenheimer]

There might be people like that. There are also plenty of "This isn't working, so just fire Stotts" people without much consideration of how much of this not working is due to Stotts.

My viewpoint is: Fire Stotts the instant you (the general you, in the case, the team) believe you have a superior replacement available.

That superior replacement could be a proven NBA head coach, it could be a top college coach, it could be a talented assistant. But I think you should already have someone (or someones) you believe in as a better option for this team when you fire a coach or GM. To me, that's operating with a plan. Franchises that say, "Fire so-and-so and we'll figure out the rest later" are operating by the seat of their pants. I want Portland to be operating with a plan.

I don't see that. In fact, it makes little sense to me to be honest

why would a team be looking for a replacement coach if they thought the current one was up to the task? They'd be looking because they knew he wasn't. If that's the case, what does it matter if somebody is in the queue or not? The first step is firing the coach, so why delay?

besides that, if a team is interviewing HC candidates it's going to be known. It will leak. It will be known by the players and the current coach. That's not a good situation at all.

 

[Tince]

I don't see that. In fact, it makes little sense to me to be honest

why would a team be looking for a replacement coach if they thought the current one was up to the task? They'd be looking because they knew he wasn't. If that's the case, what does it matter if somebody is in the queue or not? The first step is firing the coach, so why delay?

besides that, if a team is interviewing HC candidates it's going to be known. It will leak. It will be known by the players and the current coach. That's not a good situation at all.

Isn't that pretty much exactly what Minnesota and Atlanta did this year? And it wasn't leaked.

 

[Minstrel]

why would a team be looking for a replacement coach if they thought the current one was up to the task?

There's a difference between "can't do the job" and "we should be trying to find an upgrade." I think most analysts would say Stotts can do the job, the question is more whether someone else can do an even better job. Maybe if you had an all-time disaster like PJ Carlisimo, you just fire him to get him out of the locker room as quickly as possible. I doubt the Blazers (or any team) see Stotts as that urgent an emergency.

besides that, if a team is interviewing HC candidates it's going to be known. It will leak. It will be known by the players and the current coach. That's not a good situation at all.

You don't necessarily have to have reached the interview stage. You just have to have some idea of where you're going to go. Since the Warriors are a popular team to reference, they fired Mark Jackson with two candidates in mind: Stan Van Gundy and Steve Kerr. They hadn't interviewed either one yet, but they had identified the guys they wanted as replacements. I don't think they'd have fired Mark Jackson with no concrete idea of who would come next, where they planned to go, especially considering they were already a playoff team (which is where the current Blazers are too).

 

[Hoopguru]

Our roster is much better than theirs. Their roster is pretty trash. Draymond's production has fallen off a cliff. I'd take 5 of our guys over any of theirs outside of Steph.

You think their roster is trash? interesting
Curry - Dame
Oubre/Bazmore - CJ/Simons
Green/Paschall - Cov/Melo
Wiggins - DJJ/Powell
Wiseman/Looney - Nurk/Ennis

Im not sure they are really that trash.

Show me where they are trash against our players? just curious.

 

[Natebishop3]

You think their roster is trash? interesting
Curry - Dame
Oubre/Bazmore - CJ/Simmons
Green/Paschall - Cov/Melo
Wiggins - DJJ/Powell
Wiseman/Looney - Nurk/Ennis

Im not sure they are really that trash.

Show me where they are trash against our players? just curious.

Curry = Dame
Oubre < CJ
Wiggins < Powell
Green < RoCo
Wiseman = Nurk (I say this is a wash because of Nurk's health issues)

 

[Hoopguru]

Curry = Dame
Oubre < CJ
Wiggins < Powell
Green < RoCo
Wiseman = Nurk (I say this is a wash because of Nurk's health issues)

 

[Natebishop3]

Is there more to this post?

 

[SIeepwalker]

That's literally all YOU do. You can make this complaint without being hypocritical when you start defending Stotts with actual basketball reasons.

But, but... The players like Stotts ! And he's a good guy ! Dame want him here ! He brings a good culture ! And all those other think that have nothing to do with actual basketball being played !

 

[Tince]

Curry = Dame
Oubre < CJ
Wiggins < Powell
Green < RoCo
Wiseman = Nurk (I say this is a wash because of Nurk's health issues)

This could be right.

I wonder why so many Warriors fans have the same complaints about him as some here about Stotts. Coaches can be traded I believe. Maybe the GSW would do Kerr + 2nd Round pick for Stotts?

Blazers add 2 1st round picks if Kerr leads us to a championship in the next 3 years.

 

[Natebishop3]

This could be right.

I wonder why so many Warriors fans have the same complaints about him as some here about Stotts. Coaches can be traded I believe. Maybe the GSW would do Kerr + 2nd Round pick for Stotts?

Blazers add 2 1st round picks if Kerr leads us to a championship in the next 3 years.

Because they're spoiled and most of them were never really fans before they started winning.

 

[Hoopguru]

If Kerr went to the Knicks as Phil wanted would he have taken them to the EC finals?

 

[blazerkor]

Because they're spoiled and most of them were never really fans before they started winning.

The fact is that if Kerr is struggling coaching this team and the Warriors want to retain him, those fans should shut the fuck up because that coach has three rings with them. That being said, people on here that are and have been frustrated with Stotts for over half a decade and have great reasons for being frustrated, have more solid ground to stand on because we haven't won anything with Stotts as the head coach.

Accomplishments bring stability in any job and they should. Kerr is getting the "what have you done for me lately?" treatment which some can view as fair and others as unfair but giving Stotts the "what have you done for me ever?" treatment has to be considered fair to everyone. So if Kerr and Stotts are both worse coaches than the fans think they should have leading their teams, Kerr has earned a ton more leeway than Stotts, who should have none.

Oh and as a fan I don't have to come up with a better option than Stotts and Olshey in order to have the opinion that they need to be removed. They haven't done shit and it's fine for me to hope the next hires will.

 

[Hoopguru]

Is there more to this post?

I just dont think GS's roster is trash, is all.

 

[Natebishop3]

I just dont think GS's roster is trash, is all.

There's a difference between trash and playoff team and then another tier above that is contender. They have a lot of young guys that aren't ready to contribute consistently. Warriors fans are used to having a veteran team. It was easy for them to be patient when Curry was out, but now that Curry is back they're impatient. The problem is, Curry never had to carry a team by himself, and he's really not that good at it.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

If Mark Few loses tonight should he be canned? Im being sarcastic but he seems to not get over the hump, so when is it coaching or just talent?

I would be much more forgiving of a college coach in a good program; every year he has to play in a single elimination tournament; that's pretty tough .

 

[Natebishop3]

I would be much more forgiving of a college coach in a good program; every year he has to play in a single elimination tournament; that's pretty tough .

I wish the NBA playoffs were single elim. We would have knocked the Lakers out in the first round last year.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Playoff games can be won with just one possession. I don't any confidence in Stotts to actually manage and value possessions. His brand of basketball works fine in the regular season, but he gets completely picked apart in the playoffs and he never has a rebuttal.

He still hasn't figured out what to do when the opposing team blitzes Dame.

 

[Minstrel]

The problem is, Curry never had to carry a team by himself, and he's really not that good at it.

I mean, you think Portland's roster is clearly better and Golden State had a better point differential until Curry recently got injured and the Warriors tanked. So if Curry really isn't good at it, Lillard is awful at it.

 

[calvin natt]

Kerr would not have any more wins as the Blazer coach than Stotts. Maybe less. I 100% believe this. Kerr is the guy you want when the team is loaded. He won’t fuck it up.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

There's a difference between trash and playoff team and then another tier above that is contender. They have a lot of young guys that aren't ready to contribute consistently. Warriors fans are used to having a veteran team. It was easy for them to be patient when Curry was out, but now that Curry is back they're impatient. The problem is, Curry never had to carry a team by himself, and he's really not that good at it.

2015-16? He carried em that year or no one’s ever carried a team.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

I wish the NBA playoffs were single elim. We would have knocked the Lakers out in the first round last year.

Root for Blazers and Mavs to pass Lakers in standings. I want Lakers in play-in where anything can happen. Would be so cool if Ja got hot and LeBron missed the playoffs.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

I mean, you think Portland's roster is clearly better and Golden State had a better point differential until Curry recently got injured and the Warriors tanked. So if Curry really isn't good at it, Lillard is awful at it.

You can talk point differential or you can talk record which is better cuz the record reflects how Dame has carried his team to wins in the clutch time after time despite bad point diff.

 

[Minstrel]

You can talk point differential or you can talk record which is better cuz the record reflects how Dame has carried his team to wins in the clutch time after time despite bad point diff.

I'll talk about point differential, since I think significantly outperforming point differential is basically luck. IMO, point differential is the best measure of a team.

 

[Tince]

I'll talk about point differential, since I think significantly outperforming point differential is basically luck. IMO, point differential is the best measure of a team.

I think there is a lot of validity to this. Especially if you don't think being "clutch" is a thing and/or coaches don't make a big difference late in close games.

 

[stampedehero]

Trail Blazers Coch Terry Stotts as readies for tough part of schedule: 'We're headed in the right direction' (yahoo.com)

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Trail Blazers Coch Terry Stotts as readies for tough part of schedule: 'We're headed in the right direction' (yahoo.com)

I guess we were going in the right direction until a new Nurk injury appeared.

 

[wizenheimer]

I wish the NBA playoffs were single elim. We would have knocked the Lakers out in the first round last year.

but then, Portland wouldn't have won the championship in 1977

 

[wizenheimer]

Would be so cool if Ja got hurt and LeBron missed the playoffs.

wut?

 

[HolyBackboard]

The defense is not entirely Stotts' fault. At some point the players need to play with some pride and urgency. Our first quarter defense has been absolutely abysmal all season long. Is the team then tuning out Stotts? If that's the case, then we definitely need a new coach. A good coach has the ear of his players and, to me, I don't think Terry has it.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

wut?

If Lakers fall to 7th, they are in play-in. Let’s say Spurs are 8th and they lost to Spurs in the 7th seed play in game. Then a loss to a team like the Grizz could prevent Lakers from qualifying for playoffs.