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How good do you think Terry Stotts is a s a coach?

  • Top 5

    Votes: 9 5.8%

  • Top 10

    Votes: 44 28.6%

  • Top 20

    Votes: 35 22.7%

  • Needs to go!

    Votes: 51 33.1%

  • He's the very best!

    Votes: 2 1.3%

  • Lets hope he continues to improve.

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Total voters
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Tince said:
That's an interesting takeaway. I didn't see where Jones defended those other players, mentioned unlimited leash, or said Little should be benched. I read it as him pointing out a short-coming he sees across the league.
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Melo and Hood aren't "excellent" on either end of the floor. Dame and Kanter are both good on offense so I guess that fits.
 
riverman said:
actually that would make Paul Allen the reason Terry is still coach and now his sister ....Paul didn't have to appease anybody...the buck always stopped with Paul...and I think it's great Dame loves his coach...all this hindsight speculation about Stotts being on the hot seat is fan driven here...Dame is part of the reason Stotts is still here...Paul, Neil and Jody are the other reasons other than Stotts is valued by the franchise more than by the S2 forum membership.....we have a healthy locker room and culture. trying to poke holes in it is probably not going to force a coaching change unless it's with ownership ..I don't see any grumbling from that camp...
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Wow, your career must have been rooted in PR because you can put a spin on anything.

And Stotts being on the hot seat is not purely fan driven.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25321406/zach-lowe-damian-lillard-portland-trail-blazers-nba
 
OneSport3 said:
Wow, your career must have been rooted in PR because you can put a spin on anything.

And Stotts being on the hot seat is not purely fan driven.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25321406/zach-lowe-damian-lillard-portland-trail-blazers-nba
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that editorial just says Paul Allen made a decision...with the lobbying of players and for what I believe are commendable reasons...in the end...Paul Allen kept Terry ...but that's an old editorial ..Terry has had a contract extension since then. I'm sure if I googled it I'd find others that agree with you...that's not in my interests at all as a Stotts fan.
 
Natebishop3 said:
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Melo and Hood aren't "excellent" on either end of the floor. Dame and Kanter are both good on offense so I guess that fits.
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So you think he's tweeting that Hood and Melo are exellent by pointing out a mistake Little made? I didn't jump to any conclusions that Jones was talking about others players or that he's implying Little sucks.
 
Tince said:
So you think he's tweeting that Hood and Melo are exellent by pointing out a mistake Little made? I didn't jump to any conclusions that Jones was talking about others players or that he's implying Little sucks.
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What he said makes no sense for several of the players currently in our rotation. I'll leave it at that.
 
Natebishop3 said:
What he said makes no sense for several of the players currently in our rotation. I'll leave it at that.
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There certainly are other players who might make that mistake. Some players who might know the right read, but lack the physical tools.

Little did make a poor read in that exact situation. Doesn't make him the worst player ever, nor does it address other players short-comings. Little certainly isn't above critique, I hope.
 
Tince said:
There certainly are other players who might make that mistake. Some players who might know the right read, but lack the physical tools.

Little did make a poor read in that exact situation. Doesn't make him the worst player ever, nor does it address other players short-comings. Little certainly isn't above critique, I hope.
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Little and Simons both have a pretty short leash, although Simons is played out of necessity because of our injuries.

But what Mr Jones Jr. said is that in order to get a place in the rotation you either have to be consistent on both ends of the floor, OR excellent on one end of the floor. I'm going to tell you right now that Rodney Hood and Carmelo Anthony fit neither of those options.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Little and Simons both have a pretty short leash, although Simons is played out of necessity because of our injuries.

But what Mr Jones Jr. said is that in order to get a place in the rotation you either have to be consistent on both ends of the floor, OR excellent on one end of the floor. I'm going to tell you right now that Rodney Hood and Carmelo Anthony fit neither of those options.
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I agree with you there. If we only played players who were exceptional on one side or consistently good on both, we might not be able to put 5 players on the floor right now.
 
lol these are some lofty goals by our guy Terry. You set low expectations, you develop a mindset to be mediocre. What a joke.

https://theathletic.com/2450471/202...meet-terry-stotts-defensive-challenge-so-far/

“From this point forward,” Stotts recalled telling his team, “we need to be in the top half” of the NBA’s defensive rating.

It was a daunting directive. The Blazers at the time ranked 28th out of 30 teams in defensive rating, a ranking that was no doubt affected by the injuries to center Jusuf Nurkic, forward Zach Collins and guard CJ McCollum. (Nurkic had the best defensive rating on the team and McCollum was third at the time of their injuries. Collins, another noted defender, has not played this season).

“I think it’s a realistic goal for us,” Stotts said.

Robert Covington, who has emerged as the Blazers’ best defender, took the challenge one step further. Instead of a top 15 finish that Stotts proposed, Covington suggested the Blazers aim for a top 10 defense over the final 37 games.

“Coach put us as top tier, top half, but me, I want to put expectations that we can be top 10 if we really commit to it,” Covington said. “That’s coming from a guy who has been there before. I want to put pressure on guys.”
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Also: finally!
It has created a tense backdrop to Stotts’ future in Portland. He is under contract through the 2021-22 season, and while he has made seven consecutive playoff appearances and is well-liked by his players, a source says the Blazers’ lack of defense throughout his tenure has become a topic with ownership in Seattle.
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It woulnt surprise me if both Neil and Stotts desire a change in scenery.
Jodie & Bert have big decisions to make.
If there are changes I predict out my ass that its Seattle squad members.
 
illmatic99 said:
lol these are some lofty goals by our guy Terry. You set low expectations, you develop a mindset to be mediocre. What a joke.

https://theathletic.com/2450471/202...meet-terry-stotts-defensive-challenge-so-far/



Also: finally!
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at the all-star break, Portland had a defensive rating of 16.4. After two games in Minny, it's dropped to 16.9, and that was against the worst team in the league with the 26th rated offense.

just for fun, I'll list the offensive ranks of the teams remaining on Portland's schedule:

7 - 7 - 13 - 13 - 1 - @25 - @27 - @14 - @24 - 4 - 28 - @2 - @3 - 24 - 25 - 11 - @20 - @15 - 2 - 5 - 19 - 19 - @17 - @17 - @1 - @9 - @11 - @30 - 18 - 20 - 29 - @3 - @8 - 5

half of the games against teams in the top-half of the league in offense; 13 games against teams with top-10 offenses. The corker is that 30 of 34 games are against teams with better offenses than Minnesota, where the Blazers just gave up defensive ratings of 121.6 and 117.5, both of which were above their season average

Portland is facing a huge challenge to just climb out of the bottom-10 with that schedule. It took the Blazers 38 games to dig this hole, they won't climb all the way out in 34 games. Stotts deservedly gets plenty of blame for this defensive mess, but it wasn't Stotts who brought back Kanter, re-signed Melo & Hood, made it necessary to rely on Simons, and went all in on the Dame/CJ back court. The roster ain't built for defense
 
wizenheimer said:
at the all-star break, Portland had a defensive rating of 16.4. After two games in Minny, it's dropped to 16.9, and that was against the worst team in the league with the 26th rated offense.

just for fun, I'll list the offensive ranks of the teams remaining on Portland's schedule:

7 - 7 - 13 - 13 - 1 - @25 - @27 - @14 - @24 - 4 - 28 - @2 - @3 - 24 - 25 - 11 - @20 - @15 - 2 - 5 - 19 - 19 - @17 - @17 - @1 - @9 - @11 - @30 - 18 - 20 - 29 - @3 - @8 - 5

half of the games against teams in the top-half of the league in offense; 13 games against teams with top-10 offenses. The corker is that 30 of 34 games are against teams with better offenses than Minnesota, where the Blazers just gave up defensive ratings of 121.6 and 117.5, both of which were above their season average

Portland is facing a huge challenge to just climb out of the bottom-10 with that schedule. It took the Blazers 38 games to dig this hole, they won't climb all the way out in 34 games. Stotts deservedly gets plenty of blame for this defensive mess, but it wasn't Stotts who brought back Kanter, re-signed Melo & Hood, made it necessary to rely on Simons, and went all in on the Dame/CJ back court. The roster ain't built for defense
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That was really fun! Thanks. :)
 
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B-Roy said:
What did Covington say?
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"I think it’s a realistic goal for us,” Stotts said.

Robert Covington, who has emerged as the Blazers’ best defender, took the challenge one step further. Instead of a top 15 finish that Stotts proposed, Covington suggested the Blazers aim for a top 10 defense over the final 37 games.

“Coach put us as top tier, top half, but me, I want to put expectations that we can be top 10 if we really commit to it,” Covington said. “That’s coming from a guy who has been there before. I want to put pressure on guys.”
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AmirIcon said:
LMAO Covington has higher aspirations for our team than Stotts does.

OMG. How embarrassing.
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It's important to understand that any indictment on Stotts is a bigger indictment on Olshey. Olshey has had the power to fire this guy any time he's wanted to and he hasn't got the job done. I'm not saying Stotts should stay past this season. I just don't think Olshey should be able to wriggle out of some fucking accountability by firing Stotts.
 
blazerkor said:
It's important to understand that any indictment on Stotts is a bigger indictment on Olshey. Olshey has had the power to fire this guy any time he's wanted to and he hasn't got the job done. I'm not saying Stotts should stay past this season. I just don't think Olshey should be able to wriggle out of some fucking accountability by firing Stotts.
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I'm not sure he could have fired him last season depending on Jodi's priorities as an owner, but he's certainly responsible for not losing him before Paul died.

Either way, he definitely holds some responsibility and to me, is the biggest stain on his legacy.
 
Ok guys. You know how dedicated I am as a fan and how upbeat I am when it comes to the Blazers.

In the Stotts era, outside of Game 3 2018 first round and Game 3 2019 WCF, I’ve always found the silver lining and don’t get too down after a loss. THAT SAID— last night during the Pelicans game, I officially wanted to fire Stotts. I promised myself that even if we won, I’d pay a visit to this thread. Up until those final 6 minutes, the game was near impossible to watch. It was like a horror movie. I literally covered my eyes at times. Everyone said it all in the game thread - horrible defense, disorganized on offense- so I don’t need to pick it apart but Stotts made his best case for being fired last night. The only other time I’ve felt that way about Stotts was after Game 1 in 2018 when we needed a three but got a Pat C layup that was blocked. I was like, what is Stotts telling these guys?

It seems to me that the way to go is David Vanterpool. Dame & CJ clearly love the guy so bringing him in would soften the blow of losing their buddy Terry. It could be a very smooth transition and Vanterpool would be pumped to have the job. And there’d be another POC coach in the NBA. Everybody wins.

It was mentioned in another thread that teams don’t win titles when they fire the coach midseason. I can think of two recent examples in which that is not the case. The 2005-06 Miami Heat replaced SVG with Pat Riley midseason and won the 2006 title. 10 years later, David Blatt was replaced by Ty Lue and the Cavs won the 2016 title.

I’m in. Treat Stotts with respect and let him “resign to spend time with his family” and then appoint Vanterpool and give him a 4 year contract to coach alongside Dame’s contract. A new era begins.
 
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- How you want to improve our defense, Terry?
- Is that your dog in the background? I forgot your question.
 
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