First Sheed, then ZBo, now Aldridge...

[KeepOnRollin]

Nate coaxed 54 wins out of a team that should have won 30, and had a less-talented bench than the current bunch of scrubs.

That is an opinion and not a well informed one. Nates bench had players that started on other teams. Or bench until tonight was the worst in the league.

 

[BrianFromWA]

He is a much better trade chip than Gerald, even if LaMonster never comes back again. My point has been threefold:

1) He's much better (and better for the team) being LaMonster and shooting half of his shots (at least) in the paint and around the rim. Up until the BOS game, he hadn't been doing that. And I really like (and have said so) how he's played the last two games.
2) If he's really just turning into (for whatever reason--losing a step, injury, new offense, whatever) a poor man's Nowitzki, it's worth looking at what you can get for him. We have too many other players who are much more efficient (largely b/c they're good 3pt shooters or garbagemen) to have him taking 10-15 shots a game from the perimeter, and our defense isn't good enough to overcome that inefficiency, to say nothing of the 2nd -order effects that come with long-range shooting from a big (decreased offensive rebound potential, longer boards generating fast breaks for opponents, not getting opponent into foul trouble or getting cheap points from the FT line, etc.)
3) IF you're going to trade him, it should be at least for a) either a lotto pick in 2013 or 2014, or multiple 1sts later on; b) a capable big -- doesn't have to be a young stud big if you're getting another stud in the deal. and c) a long-term rotation player. I put ideas into the other thread. In no circumstance do I think this is the year for the LMA Fire Sale/Z-bo Trade--if he's not bringing back a commensurate haul, don't deal him.

 

[jlprk]

To those who keep pulling out the invisibly injured for many months card (Aldridge) or the sick for 2 weeks card (Batum) to excuse long-running deficiencies that have existed for years--

How does Aldridge's so-called injury explain why he is too injured to play a normal PF inside game, but not injured enough to run around calling for lots and lots of outside shots?

 

[PapaG]

That is an opinion and not a well informed one. Nates bench had players that started on other teams. Or bench until tonight was the worst in the league.

Nate's bench in 2008-09

Outlaw
Oden
Sergio
Rudy
Frye
Bayless

One of these players had started on other teams, if you count Frye spot starting in NYK.

Sergio, Rudy,Bayless, and Outlaw were all Blazer rookies at one point who had never played for another NBA team at this point.

You lost. Your opinion sucks.

 

[jlprk]

Pritchard disliked experienced players, so the bench usually had few, so it's hard to prove pro or con.

 

[Rhal]

Nate's bench in 2008-09

Outlaw
Oden
Sergio
Rudy
Frye
Bayless

One of these players had started on other teams, if you count Frye spot starting in NYK.

Sergio, Rudy,Bayless, and Outlaw were all Blazer rookies at one point who had never played for another NBA team at this point.

You lost. Your opinion sucks.

Outlaw averaged 12p for us that season. Rudy set the rookie record for threes made. We made a very high % of threes that year. There were a lot of reasons for the Blazers winning 54 games that year but it wasnt because of McMillan it was because Roy played like a top 5 player that year and hit quiet a few game winners.

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[KeepOnRollin]

Nate's bench in 2008-09

Outlaw
Oden
Sergio
Rudy
Frye
Bayless

One of these players had started on other teams, if you count Frye spot starting in NYK.

Sergio, Rudy,Bayless, and Outlaw were all Blazer rookies at one point who had never played for another NBA team at this point.

You lost. Your opinion sucks.

That bench absolutely kills our current bench. Our current 2nd team would not just lose to that bench, they would get blown out.

 

[RoyToy]

Nate's bench in 2008-09

Outlaw
Oden
Sergio
Rudy
Frye
Bayless

One of these players had started on other teams, if you count Frye spot starting in NYK.

Sergio, Rudy,Bayless, and Outlaw were all Blazer rookies at one point who had never played for another NBA team at this point.

You lost. Your opinion sucks.

The double standard is great on this board, isn't it?

I love how all of the sudden the bench players McMillan had to work with were stars, when in fact they mostly made things tough.

Still won 50+ games in consecutive years.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

The double standard is great on this board, isn't it?

I love how all of the sudden the bench players McMillan had to work with were stars, when in fact they mostly made things tough.

Still won 50+ games in consecutive years.

Stars? Hardly. They look close to stars compared to this years bench however. I had/have no problem with Nate that season.

 

[RoyToy]

Stars? Hardly. They look close to stars compared to this years bench however. I had/have no problem with Nate that season.

It's still not a great bench McMillan had to work with, and that's the main point.

And he still got results.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

It's still not a great bench McMillan had to work with, and that's the main point.

And he still got results.

That bench wasn't crap like this years but it actually even went beyond that. It played above its head which is a nice thing to say about Nate. He got the best out of almost all those players outside of possibly Frye.

 

[RoyToy]

And so far Stotts hasn't been able to do as Nate did, and that's make something out of almost nothing.

He made Sergio look like a useful player at times. No reason Ronnie Price can't be the same way.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

And so far Stotts hasn't been able to do as Nate did, and that's make something out of almost nothing.

He made Sergio look like a useful player at times. No reason Ronnie Price can't be the same way.

It is nice that it looks like Stotts might actually be starting to try (to get the bench going). We will see if he keeps that up. We can't get any worse in that area (before last night at least).

 

[Hobbesarable]

It is nice that it looks like Stotts might actually be starting to try (to get the bench going). We will see if he keeps that up. We can't get any worse in that area (before last night at least).

Hopefully Stotts uses the players he has on then bench more effectively. They may be green and they may not have much, but it's all we have this season to help the starters.

Rollin, it looks like you discovered PapaG. Have fun with that conversation!

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Hopefully Stotts uses the players he has on then bench more effectively. They may be green and they may not have much, but it's all we have this season to help the starters.

Rollin, it looks like you discovered PapaG. Have fun with that conversation!

Oh, man! Should I have been warned ahead of time?

 

[Hobbesarable]

Oh, man! Should I have been warned ahead of time?

I guess you are now!

 

[KingSpeed]

Nate's bench in 2008-09

Outlaw
Oden
Sergio
Rudy
Frye
Bayless

One of these players had started on other teams, if you count Frye spot starting in NYK.

Sergio, Rudy,Bayless, and Outlaw were all Blazer rookies at one point who had never played for another NBA team at this point.

You lost. Your opinion sucks.

This is where you lose me.

 

[KingSpeed]

It's still not a great bench McMillan had to work with, and that's the main point.

And he still got results.

What's funny is that people kept saying we have a log jam at every position. Too many good players. "We need a consolidation trade!"

 

[jlprk]

Nate's bench in 2008-09

Outlaw
Oden
Sergio
Rudy
Frye
Bayless

One of these players had started on other teams, if you count Frye spot starting in NYK.

Sergio, Rudy,Bayless, and Outlaw were all Blazer rookies at one point who had never played for another NBA team at this point.

You lost. Your opinion sucks.

Looks like a good bench to me. Each one young, energetic, talented, and either still an NBA bench player, or back in Europe by his own choice, or career ended due to injury.

 

[PapaG]

This is where you lose me.

I was responding to a poster who said that my own opinion was not 'well informed'. I provided a list of the crappy bench that Nate had to work with, for the most part.

I think that his opinion sucked, just as he thought mine was not 'well informed'.

 

[KingSpeed]

I was responding to a poster who said that my own opinion was not 'well informed'. I provided a list of the crappy bench that Nate had to work with, for the most part.

I think that his opinion sucked, just as he thought mine was not 'well informed'.

You still lose me when you go off like that.

 

[tester551]

I love to watch LMA play like he did tonight against Charlotte. Unfortunately we don't see that much.

I think he only took 2 shots outside of 15 feet. He also had 13 boards!!! Well done Sir.

 

[illmatic99]

I love to watch LMA play like he did tonight against Charlotte. Unfortunately we don't see that much.

I think he only took 2 shots outside of 15 feet. He also had 13 boards!!! Well done Sir.

He played C, and Dame was the focal point. I didn't see that many touches for LA as part of the offense in the fourth quarter. Everything he seemed to get was off a rebound or broken play. Defenses can't key in on him when he's like that.

The transformation of Dame to our #1 player has begun.

 

[BBert]

Oh, man! Should I have been warned ahead of time?

Yes. But it's not my job.

 

[PapaG]

That bench absolutely kills our current bench. Our current 2nd team would not just lose to that bench, they would get blown out.

It had ONE player who had started for another team, but not consistently. You said it had multiple players who had started on other teams.

Seems as if your opinion was the ill-informed one, doesn't it?

 

[PapaG]

You still lose me when you go off like that.

Double standard. Whatever.

 

[BigGameDamian]

After Aldridge will it be Thomas Robinson?? Should be interesting..............

 

[KingSpeed]

Yep

 

[maxiep]

I had already turned on Marko Todorovic and Jeff Withey, then we went ahead and traded them.