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Would you trade Anfernee and Sharpe and x picks for Shai Gilgeous Alexander?

  • Yes, for any x<3

    Votes: 3 4.5%

  • Yes if x=1 and is protected

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Yes for Simons and Sharpe with NO picks (or maybe a second or two)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No

    Votes: 64 95.5%
  • Total voters
    67
UKRAINEFAN said:
It's really the fans' money (well, except for a few freeloaders like me). They buy the tickets and pay for the TV packages.
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And they have the right to vote with their feet (or eyes) and money.

Blazers are providing a good product.
 
I would be scared shitless of tradign Sharpe then watching him become a star elsewhere
 
Cugel said:
This is clearly not a HCA team. More likely a perpetual play-in level team, at least for the next few years.
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So why watch? You already know the future.

See ya in a few years, I guess.
 
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Strenuus said:
So why watch? You already know the future.

See ya in a few years, I guess.
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I am not a fair weather fan; just calls em as I sees em. But I do get your point and I loathe each and every loss. I could stand to be more positive.

By re-signing Grant next summer Portland will be in a straight-jacket. After giving up a pick, they sort of have to, I guess. You never know, Grant could walk if he gets an obscene offer somewhere else. I think Portland can give him ~28mil. Might he get an offer over 30? He is killing it this year. His loyalty to Dame/Portland may be tested.

I view Nas, Nurk, GP as overpaid. Portland is stuck with Nurk and Nas; those contracts are hard to trade, imho. I would like to, some day, see what GP will bring to the table though.

How does running the ~same roster next year yield deep playoff hopes? There is no way to make any moves that are game-changers. Can't even sign a true backup high quality center. Age old quandary of how to land a superstar. Can't do it by trade or FA; have to draft or find the young diamond in the rough. Keep developing the young talent. Ant and Shae are bound to be stars. Lacking a young big with real star talent. Trendon is a fine role player at this point.
 
Cugel said:
I view Nas, Nurk, GP as overpaid. Portland is stuck with Nurk and Nas; those contracts are hard to trade, imho. I would like to, some day, see what GP will bring to the table though.
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How is a below MLE contract hard to trade?
 
OK, I think I have a win now trade that almost everyone will hate!
For Pascal Siakam, who I think as an all around player is almost as good as Durant and six years younger. we give Sharpe, Simons and Payton.
Since we will be short on guards, we move Hart to guard and get back Dalano Banton, a young 6'8" PG who averages almost 2 blocks and 2 steals per 36. We may also be short on SF's, although Grant would play there most of his minutes, because Little is out and Winslow maybe also. so we also get back Otto Porter. In fact we trade out Little and Winslow to get them. Winslow is expiring and who knows if Little will ever be healthy so we don't lose much there.
This would leave us really short on shooting right? Although Hart has been shooting 37% on threes for two years and he would get to shoot a lot more. Like to figure out a way to get Trent back but can't figure it. Maybe find some guy who used to be great as a 6th man?

Siakam's last ten games: https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/pa...akam has averaged 24.1,10 games in his career.

https://craftednba.com/players/comparison here you could compare Siakam and Durant, you will have to find them, I still have never figured out how to do screen shots.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
OK, I think I have a win now trade that almost everyone will hate!
For Pascal Siakam, who I think as an all around player is almost as good as Durant and six years younger. we give Sharpe, Simons and Payton.
Since we will be short on guards, we move Hart to guard and get back Dalano Banton, a young 6'8" PG who averages almost 2 blocks and 2 steals per 36. We may also be short on SF's, although Grant would play there most of his minutes, because Little is out and Winslow maybe also. so we also get back Otto Porter. In fact we trade out Little and Winslow to get them. Winslow is expiring and who knows if Little will ever be healthy so we don't lose much there.
This would leave us really short on shooting right? Although Hart has been shooting 37% on threes for two years and he would get to shoot a lot more. Like to figure out a way to get Trent back but can't figure it. Maybe find some guy who used to be great as a 6th man?

Siakam's last ten games: https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/pascal-siakam-stats-last-10-games#:~:text=Pascal Siakam has averaged 24.1,10 games in his career.

https://craftednba.com/players/comparison here you could compare Siakam and Durant, you will have to find them, I still have never figured out how to do screen shots.
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Would be a really riskiy trade. Most trades where you trade away your future for a star don't work out. But I really have doubt about Simons' value. And Sharpe is still somewhat of a crap shoot. If I was GM I would probably be afraid to make this trade. Anyone else have ideas how to get Siakam?
 
You guys know you can make trades with teams other than Toronto right? I swear 50% of the proposals on this board involve the Raptors.
 
speeds said:
You guys know you can make trades with teams other than Toronto right? I swear 50% of the proposals on this board involve the Raptors.
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BTW, how is that Banton guy? He doesn't play much....
 
trail blazers desperately need backup pass first point guard (ricky rubio type), so he can run the offense and create for others, get them good looks, instead of iso ball crap (we finally got rid of cj mccollum and now we have cj mccollum vol2 in ant)

dame & ant wont work, were setting up ourselves for disappointment, but i can definitely see why it will be difficult to trade ant, as dame will be 33 yo when the season ends, so they see ant as someone who will lead the team in the future, possibly with sharpe, but we should at least explore trade options and see if we can get all-star caliber forward in a trade involving ant

sharpe and gp2 are okay off the bench, sharpe will grow with more playing time and shooting opportunities, gp2 will do his job, but guys like watford, winslow, eubanks etc are not it and i dont know how to feel about little... he was really good last season, then got hurt and this season he couldnt back to that level and got hurt again

trader joe has shown hes not afraid to shake the three and make big trades, so maybe well see another big trade at the deadline or in the off-season, but my belief is that he & chauncey will try to sort out the bench and hopefully they get something done, we need backup (pass first) point guard, scoring & defense, so at least some of it would be really nice
 
Mr. Robot said:
trail blazers desperately need backup pass first point guard (ricky rubio type), so he can run the offense and create for others, get them good looks, instead of iso ball crap (we finally got rid of cj mccollum and now we have cj mccollum vol2 in ant)

dame & ant wont work, were setting up ourselves for disappointment, but i can definitely see why it will be difficult to trade ant, as dame will be 33 yo when the season ends, so they see ant as someone who will lead the team in the future, possibly with sharpe, but we should at least explore trade options and see if we can get all-star caliber forward in a trade involving ant

sharpe and gp2 are okay off the bench, sharpe will grow with more playing time and shooting opportunities, gp2 will do his job, but guys like watford, winslow, eubanks etc are not it and i dont know how to feel about little... he was really good last season, then got hurt and this season he couldnt back to that level and got hurt again

trader joe has shown hes not afraid to shake the three and make big trades, so maybe well see another big trade at the deadline or in the off-season, but my belief is that he & chauncey will try to sort out the bench and hopefully they get something done, we need backup (pass first) point guard, scoring & defense, so at least some of it would be really nice
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We really need Trendon Watford and Justise Winslow to have 3s created for them!

This bench unit is atrocious right now. They're regularly playing 3 guys that can't shoot outside of 5 feet, and a 19-year old unseasonably rookie. Putting a pass-first PG instead of Ant with that lineup screws it up even more.

Unfortunately, people are judging Ant based on his performances with said lineup, which is unfair. Comparing him to CJ is ridiculous. He's trying to create off the dribble with 4 guys who can't and 3 of them can't shoot. With the starters he plays much more in the flow of things.

He is not "CJ 2.0".
 
i really liked ant last season, he was running the offense and really improving playmaking skills and in some games he did better job of running the offense than dame does, but i dont like ant as a shooting guard and when i say hes cj mccollum vol2, i dont necessarily mean in terms of playing style, but rather in terms of chucking shots and being a selfish prick like cj mccollum was... i simply hate watching shoot first point guard and shooting guard chuck shot after shot, doing "my turn, your turn", like dame & cj mccollum did and not only that, neither of them plays defense and ant is undersized, so yeah, its dame & cj mccollum all over again

our lineup last season: simons, hart, little, winslow & nurk obviously wasnt talented enough to be a playoff team, but the way they played on offense and defense was really enjoyable to watch and you could see players enjoyed it too and chauncey was able to implement his ideas and it looked fine at the beginning of this season and our record (10-4) reflected it, but after that it went downhill for some reason

they simply dont give consistent effort on defense, intensity must be there every game and on offense they just revert to "my turn, your turn", which wont work... if they do the rights thing, were pretty good, if not, were play-in team
 
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Merry Christmas, ya'll. Rip City!
Question(s): What would it take to get DeRozan? Would he fit? I know Dame and he are friends, maybe he would gel like Grant does? Dame, Hart, DeRozan, Grant, Nurk :dunno:
Could be Ant, Little/Winslow, plus... or include Drummond and make it a different package? GP2 and Drummond off the bench? Happy holidays! :xmastree:
 
Mr. Robot said:
i really liked ant last season, he was running the offense and really improving playmaking skills and in some games he did better job of running the offense than dame does, but i dont like ant as a shooting guard and when i say hes cj mccollum vol2, i dont necessarily mean in terms of playing style, but rather in terms of chucking shots and being a selfish prick like cj mccollum was... i simply hate watching shoot first point guard and shooting guard chuck shot after shot, doing "my turn, your turn", like dame & cj mccollum did and not only that, neither of them plays defense and ant is undersized, so yeah, its dame & cj mccollum all over again

our lineup last season: simons, hart, little, winslow & nurk obviously wasnt talented enough to be a playoff team, but the way they played on offense and defense was really enjoyable to watch and you could see players enjoyed it too and chauncey was able to implement his ideas and it looked fine at the beginning of this season and our record (10-4) reflected it, but after that it went downhill for some reason

they simply dont give consistent effort on defense, intensity must be there every game and on offense they just revert to "my turn, your turn", which wont work... if they do the rights thing, were pretty good, if not, were play-in team
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So when Ant is playing with a lineup of Eubanks, Winslow and Watford, who do you want shooting the ball? And when he does try to make a play, all those guys swing the ball like they’re playing hot potato.
 
BonesJones said:
We really need Trendon Watford and Justise Winslow to have 3s created for them!

This bench unit is atrocious right now. They're regularly playing 3 guys that can't shoot outside of 5 feet, and a 19-year old unseasonably rookie. Putting a pass-first PG instead of Ant with that lineup screws it up even more.

Unfortunately, people are judging Ant based on his performances with said lineup, which is unfair. Comparing him to CJ is ridiculous. He's trying to create off the dribble with 4 guys who can't and 3 of them can't shoot. With the starters he plays much more in the flow of things.

He is not "CJ 2.0".
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So. who do we need?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
This guy has trade idea for Blazers for about 13 different guys. I don't like trades of Hart for LaVine or Kuzma cuz I think he may be more valuable than either. If we want Siakam, Sharpe must be inlcluded. Maybe Bamba?
https://www.blazersedge.com/2022/12...to-raptors-chicago-bulls-wizards-timberwolves
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Problem is our salary situation. The Derozan trade puts the Blazers past the hard cap after filling roster spots which this guy ignores. We need players the compliment our top 3 offensively and can defend. Many of those targets don't get it done.

You're likely looking at cheaper options. Kenrich Williams, Jalen McDaniels (not Jaden), and Naz Reid just to name a few.
 
BonesJones said:
Problem is our salary situation. The Derozan trade puts the Blazers past the hard cap after filling roster spots which this guy ignores. We need players the compliment our top 3 offensively and can defend. Many of those targets don't get it done.

You're likely looking at cheaper options. Kenrich Williams, Jalen McDaniels (not Jaden), and Naz Reid just to name a few.
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I'd love Reid but think he is more valuable to Wolves than anything we have to offer.
 
Honestly this team has to trade some of their guys that are guards. Again we will have Dame, Ant, GP2, Keon, Nas and Hart that are all 6'5" or smaller (only Hart and Nas are 6'5") and then you have Justise and Shae at 6'6". The only legit big that we have on the roster is Nurk. The next biggest guy that has seen the court this season is 6'9" Drewbanks, then JG, Trendon, Jabari who are 6'8" and GB3 at 6'7" (if we can write off the 4 games that Butler saw 1 minute, 2 minutes, 3 minutes which were preceded by his full 9 minute debut in our blowout loss to the Suns).

We're so damn small. We also have a ton of our funds invested into that group of guys who most of the league would see as guards. Over 102M of our 150M team salary is invested in guys 6'6" and under. The average height in the NBA is 6'6.5" and our guys that are listed at 6'6" are not 6'6" they were rounded up to that. So we're undersized... we know that.

I want Shae to continue to see the floor unless we're winning a ring this season because I think he has a better chance at majorly contributing to a ring in the future than some guys that are going to take his minutes. We just need a trade or trades that balances the roster.
 
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"But if they pull the plug, are they committing themselves to a rebuild or reboot that wouldn’t fit the timeline of their best player, Siakam, who turns 29 in April? Are they over-investing in 21-year-old Scottie Barnes, who has been playing better recently, but has still raised eyebrows internally and externally for his lack of progress in his second season? It’s a big bet to make on a player who doesn’t quite look like the surefire all-star he did as his rookie year played out.
Or maybe they go all in and consider trading Siakam and Anunoby for what would likely be massive returns of picks and young talent. “A s---load” was the ballpark estimate provided by one league insider."


https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/articl...s-struggling-raptors-begin-crucial-homestand/
 
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