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Would you trade Anfernee and Sharpe and x picks for Shai Gilgeous Alexander?

  • Yes, for any x<3

    Votes: 3 4.5%

  • Yes if x=1 and is protected

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Yes for Simons and Sharpe with NO picks (or maybe a second or two)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No

    Votes: 64 95.5%
  • Total voters
    67
UKRAINEFAN said:
We should change the title of this thread to "Trade ideas".
What about Jalen Mc Daniels? His contract is just about up and may have indicated doesn't want to re-sign in charlotte. Would Keon Johnson and a FRP be enough?
"....players that can guard multiple positions are becoming the most coveted archetype in the league. At 6'9" with a 7-foot wingspan, Jalen McDaniels fits that archetype. He can switch on just about anybody and hold up. He flies around on defense like a free safety and covers up gaps.
McDaniels does a great job of keeping up with perimeter players and cutting off angles. He hounds guys off the 3PT line and does an excellent job of making players uncomfortable with their go-to moves."
"The 6'9" forward out of San Diego State is averaging 10.6 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, and one steal per game (all career bests) on 45.7% from the field, 37.4% from three, and a career-high 88.2% from the FT line through 37 games this season. "
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no more trading FRPs for role players.
 
Freshtown said:
no more trading FRPs for role players.
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I think he could play PF when Grant is off the floor and SF when Hart is off the floor. Could easily be a 30 minute a game player. Could save our pick and offer Johnson and their choice of Brown or Watford for McDaniels and Dennis Smith's expiring.
 
Being a play-in team or a first round exit team is a failed year for Portland IMHO. Sure, you make the playoffs but don't get much return on investment. Is the FRP to CHI lottery protected? I am not opposed to tanking at this point if there is a draftable player, at say 6-13, that would really help the team.

Right now Portland has the 13th worst record in the league and the 6th worst in the west. Does anybody really expect this team to turn it around? I mean really??? What is Dame suddenly going to morph into Durant and the team becomes a top 6 seed? I just don't see it. I see a lot of "don't worry". I am worried about not getting any young talent. I have zero post-season concerns!!! Quite confident I know how the end of the season will play out.
 
Cugel said:
Being a play-in team or a first round exit team is a failed year for Portland IMHO. Sure, you make the playoffs but don't get much return on investment. Is the FRP to CHI lottery protected? I am not opposed to tanking at this point if there is a draftable player, at say 6-13, that would really help the team.

Right now Portland has the 13th worst record in the league and the 6th worst in the west. Does anybody really expect this team to turn it around? I mean really??? What is Dame suddenly going to morph into Durant and the team becomes a top 6 seed? I just don't see it. I see a lot of "don't worry". I am worried about not getting any young talent. I have zero post-season concerns!!! Quite confident I know how the end of the season will play out.
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The Chicago pick is lottery protected and the pick will roll on to the next season and the next. That's why we don't actually have any FPRs available in trades unless we guarantee Chicago the pick.

We're three games back from HCA and seven and a half out of first in the West. There are 43 games left in our season and we have more at home than any other team in the league. There would have to be trades made but I can definitely see multiple ways that this team turns it around. The parity in the league this year is the closest it's been in a long time. With one or two good moves that make this roster more cohesive we could go on a run and end up with a good seed in the playoffs where I think this season more than any other in recent memory, any team will be able to beat any other team.

The parity and hope that it brings might make it hard to get impact players from other teams but I'd imagine there will be some available. If we aren't trading Dame (and we aren't) then we should go all in on trying to contend starting this season and only worry about the three or four season window we'll have. Otherwise you are right and we should trade Dame. We won't do anything if we try to contend now and protect the team's future past the next few seasons.
 
wizenheimer said:
what is with the obsession around here for Ayton? Yeah, he's a better C than Nurkic but he's paid twice as much as Nurk and he sure as shit isn't twice as good
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He is a lot younger and could get a lot better. You always pay more for potential. Not sure if Portland is the right place to try and develop him, but he is better and paid more because he is better and can get better, where Nurk is what he is. A starting caliber center being paid an appropriate amount if he was more consistent / healthy, a little over-paid given his inconsistency and injury issues.

Let's just say that Ayton's mobility will work much better than Nurk's in Chauncy's switching defense.
 
what would it cost to acquire jordan clarkson (should be available, utah is a tanking team), seems like a perfect 6th man, a much need scorer off the bench

he got player option for the next season
 
Mr. Robot said:
what would it cost to acquire jordan clarkson (should be available, utah is a tanking team), seems like a perfect 6th man, a much need scorer off the bench

he got player option for the next season
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I thought about this too but we just don’t need another small guard. He’d be great if our roster was constructed more evenly
 
Fez Forthright said:
Filler/1RP for Kenyon Martin Jr.
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I’m going to continue repeating this over and over: no trading first round picks for role players.

You package multiple picks for stars.
You do not deal your first rounders one at a time for role players like Nance, Covington, or Afflalo.
 
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Hart for Crowder
 
Chris Craig said:
Hart for Crowder
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what would be the point of that trade?

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Hart is better in just about every phase of the game; and they are about even on defense but Hart is more versatile

they are both on expiring contracts so no joy there. Crowder is almost exclusively a PF these days so Grant would have to go to SF. And it might take Crowder a month to get into basketball shape. He's no spring chicken

my take is if Hart is traded it needs to be for a substantial upgrade in at least one critical category and hopefully for a player locked into a longer contract. Just trading him out of frustration with the season's direction would be dumb
 
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Of the trade deadline is always fun, but I just don’t think the Blazers are going to do anything worthwhile. If we are going to keep riding with Dame and serious about winning a championship, why don’t we go after a big name player like DeRozan or Levine that can help NOW?
 
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BigGameDamian said:
Of the trade deadline is always fun, but I just don’t think the Blazers are going to do anything worthwhile. If we are going to keep riding with name and serious about winning a championship, why don’t we go after a big name player like DeRozan or Levine that can help NOW?
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I don't either. I wouldn't be surprised if there were no moves on the Blazers part.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Of the trade deadline is always fun, but I just don’t think the Blazers are going to do anything worthwhile. If we are going to keep riding with name and serious about winning a championship, why don’t we go after a big name player like DeRozan or Levine that can help NOW?
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Who would you give up for either of those two players? Just curious.
 
A future 1st for Vanderbilt would be good.
 
Chris Craig said:
A future 1st for Vanderbilt would be good.
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no first round picks for role players. If you are a championship contender, fine. It’s totally reasonable to trade the 29th pick for a piece that helps put you over the top.

but when you need so many things to be a championship contender (like the blazers), you don’t hand out first round picks for role players.

Have we not learned our lesson from Afflalo, Covington, and Nance?
 
Freshtown said:
Hart and Keon for Collins?

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So Atlanta was rumored to have really liked Hart last deadline if I can recall. Would not surprise me if they still do now.

Unfortunately, not enough $ going out in your idea. Collins makes 23.5 mil. Josh and Keon combined make 15.6. We'd need to get at atleast 18.8 mil going out.

We'd need to add Winslow's 4 mil, but then we'd be below the minimum # of players required on the roster after a 3 for 1 deal, while also putting ourselves in the tax. This would require buy in from our seemingly cheap ownership group, especially since we would also be forced into adding someone on the buyout market or making one of our two-way contracts into real ones.
 
Chris Craig said:
Simons. Ship his ass out.
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I think Charlotte and Minnesota might be good trading partners for him. Trying to work one with Charlotte and Orlando where we end up with Jalen McDaniels, Mo Bamba and Rozier, who I think could be our scorer off the bench He hasn't had a good year but i thik that's cuz Ball missed a lot of time. He's only 28. Charlotte really does well on that cuz they would be getting rid of two guys (Oubre and Mc Daniels that they can't or don't want to re-sign) so they gotta give more, they have Denver's first round 2023 pick. Not a great rade, Might be better to try to get McDamiels and Bamba without giving up Simons.
Minnesota. Here we go after the other better McDaniels (Jaden) and also get a better bench scorer Russell for Simons, Keon, Watford and Winslow. Russel would be an expiring but I think McDaniels alone would be more valuable to us than Simons.
Or maybe we should use one of these clubs as the third team in a trade with Toronto for Siakam?
 
illmatic99 said:
So Atlanta was rumored to have really liked Hart last deadline if I can recall. Would not surprise me if they still do now.

Unfortunately, not enough $ going out in your idea. Collins makes 23.5 mil. Josh and Keon combined make 15.6. We'd need to get at atleast 18.8 mil going out.

We'd need to add Winslow's 4 mil, but then we'd be below the minimum # of players required on the roster after a 3 for 1 deal, while also putting ourselves in the tax. This would require buy in from our seemingly cheap ownership group, especially since we would also be forced into adding someone on the buyout market or making one of our two-way contracts into real ones.
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maybe Payton, and then we take back a few minimum guys?
 
Freshtown said:
maybe Payton, and then we take back a few minimum guys?
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i don't think we'd trade Hart AND Payton unless a legitimate wing defender/rebounder is coming back in return. The flexibility to move Hart in the first place comes from having GP2 back and ready for minutes.

Theoretically, a Josh + Keon + Justise for Collins deal works. Just need to work around the buyout market and add a bench wing.
 
If the Hawks FO prefer Josh Hart to John Collins then they're showing better judgment than I would give them credit for. But I really don't see this happening: they're starved for shooting as it is, and I'm guessing they liked Josh BEFORE they traded for Dejounte Murray.
 
What is good about John Collins? At this point Zach Collins may even be better.
 
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