FIX YOUR EFFIN DEFENSE TERRY!

[Tince]

Okay. I’ll bite.
If Stotts has not worked on 4 different looks that have as many as 3 or 4 different changes in defensive looks then he needs to go.
Now personally I know he has and I have seem all of them. Where the problems come is when he doesn’t use them and or when he doesn’t play the players that can accommodate those defenses.
Why he does those things is beyond me.

You're correct that we have used multiple looks throughout the season. Your point is valid. Will be interesting who is quicker to adjust to these looks and the counters the Lakers provide to attack them.

 

[BonesJones]

I agree LeBron is way too smart for us. The thought that going from our best (bad) defensive option to an even worse option and that will confuse LeBron also seems highly unlikely to me. It actually seems that switching between multiple schemes is more likely to confuse Whiteside and Wenyen more than LeBron and Anthony Davis. Maybe I'm overrating Lebron and underrating Garbriel though.

That makes no sense. It's not about confusing him, it's about forcing him to make a read. Hes not always going to make the right read and it takes a split second to make a read which could be crucial to recovering/rotating etc. That's better than him knowing exactly how our defense will be setup before he even comes off the screen.

Theres no reason we should get confused if we have to execute more than one defensive scheme.... this is the NBA, guys shouldnt struggle with that.

 

[BonesJones]

And let me make sure people here this: DROP Scheme is the worst scheme to run against a LeBron and AD pick n roll. If that's all we run and we give up 130 because of it, I'll be very frustrated. Meanwhile others will say "Ariza" as our defensive scheme has no impact on anything.

 

[Tince]

That makes no sense. It's not about confusing him, it's about forcing him to make a read. Hes not always going to make the right read and it takes a split second to make a read which could be crucial to recovering/rotating etc. That's better than him knowing exactly how our defense will be setup before he even comes off the screen.

Theres no reason we should get confused if we have to execute more than one defensive scheme.... this is the NBA, guys shouldnt struggle with that.

I think we agree. We will give them multiple looks and the Lakers will give us multiple counters to those looks. Will Lebron's ability to react to those looks be more effective that our ability to react to his counters? Seems pretty straight forward to me. Unless you think the Lakers will run the same attack against all our defensive looks?

 

[BonesJones]

I think we agree. We will give them multiple looks and the Lakers will give us multiple counters to those looks. Will Lebron's ability to react to those looks be more effective that our ability to react to his counters? Seems pretty straight forward to me. Unless you think the Lakers will run the same attack against all our defensive looks?

Are you sure we'll give them multiple looks? That's not really Stotts' style.

The main thing with our defense is how we guard the pick n roll so to answer your last question, that's the same offensive action in general.

I just dont want us to constantly run the scheme that let's LeBron get a head of steam downhill in a two on one with Anthony Davis against our dropping big. That'll be a recipe for disaster, especially if that's all we do since LeBron will perfect his attack against it throughout the game and series.

The other important part that Stotts has direct control over is how and where we double team.

 

[Tince]

Are you sure we'll give them multiple looks? That's not really Stotts' style.

The main thing with our defense is how we guard the pick n roll so to answer your last question, that's the same offensive action in general.

I just dont want us to constantly run the scheme that let's LeBron get a head of steam downhill in a two on one with Anthony Davis against our dropping big. That'll be a recipe for disaster, especially if that's all we do since LeBron will perfect his attack against it throughout the game and series.

The other important part that Stotts has direct control over is how and where we double team.

I'm pretty confident we'll give multiple looks. Now will everyone on here be able to tell the differences between those looks? I don't know.

 

[wizenheimer]

I'm pretty confident we'll give multiple looks. .

how many of those multiple looks will be by design, and how many will be because Blazers are confused on defense?

 

[Tince]

how many of those multiple looks will be by design, and how many will be because Blazers are confused on defense?

That's an interesting question. Kinda goes back to my original point of if the multiple looks will cause more confusion for the Lakers or our inexperienced players. I know Dame was talking about how he blew his assignment on defensive two plays in a row and needed to be held accountable. So even guys like Dame who have a ton of experience and know what they're supposed to do still blow coverages. It's a players league.

 

[kjironman1]

It's not about confusing him, it's about forcing him to make a read. Hes not always going to make the right read and it takes a split second to make a read which could be crucial to recovering/rotating etc.

Exactly. Can i add that sometimes a great player will make the right read no matter what you do. But if you are consistently making him think you have at least given your defense a chance.

 

[kjironman1]

I'm pretty confident we'll give multiple looks. Now will everyone on here be able to tell the differences between those looks? I don't know.

That is the next issue. First off the Drop "scheme' type defense will work at times. But it ain't gonna work against Davis. Dude can shoot the three or drive or pass. Now when they have McGee in there they can do it a bit.
Also there are some weak side rotations that change the coverage a bit and mess thing up for the big. If the rotation is fast enough they can keep him from putting the ball on the floor and make him have to rethink his move. If that happens you can hope they have burnt enough clock they have to hurry a shot.
So not all drop defense issues are the same. Kind of depends on who you have in there.
It's only one scheme that might have two or three wrinkles. There better be more looks.

 

[Tince]

That is the next issue. First off the Drop "scheme' type defense will work at times. But it ain't gonna work against Davis. Dude can shoot the three or drive or pass. Now when they have McGee in there they can do it a bit.
Also there are some weak side rotations that change the coverage a bit and mess thing up for the big. If the rotation is fast enough they can keep him from putting the ball on the floor and make him have to rethink his move. If that happens you can hope they have burnt enough clock they have to hurry a shot.
So not all drop defense issues are the same. Kind of depends on who you have in there.
It's only one scheme that might have two or three wrinkles. There better be more looks.

What defensive scheme do you think will cause LeBron and AD confusion? Specifically, when we have Whiteside out on the floor, are you comfortable with his ability to hedge/double, recover, and close out on 3pt shooters? Do you think we have players that we can put on LeBron/AD that can stay with them laterally and obstruct their vision at the same time? Who are those guys?

Doubling or hedging with slow, undersized players will certainly be a layup drill against a tall Lakers team.

 

[BonesJones]

What defensive scheme do you think will cause LeBron and AD confusion? Specifically, when we have Whiteside out on the floor, are you comfortable with his ability to hedge/double, recover, and close out on 3pt shooters? Do you think we have players that we can put on LeBron/AD that can stay with them laterally and obstruct their vision at the same time? Who are those guys?

Doubling or hedging with slow, undersized players will certainly be a layup drill against a tall Lakers team.

Uh... they're doing exactly what I asked and this has been their best defensive quarter of maybe the entire season.

 

[Tince]

Uh... they're doing exactly what I asked and this has been their best defensive quarter of maybe the entire season.

Great coaching! And all the missed open threes help too.

 

[BonesJones]

Great coaching! And all the missed open threes help too.

Most of them are contested.

 

[Tince]

Most of them are contested.

Really? I guess I'll have to go back and check the film. You might be right.

 

[Tince]

I agree with you, I don't. I don't think there is a strategy that allows us to effectively defend LeBron and Davis with this roster. Hope they miss threes and hope we make ours, that's the strategy.

Lakers 5-32 from deep. Blazers make 8 more threes. Win by 7. That's the strategy baby!

 

[Natebishop3]

Lakers 5-32 from deep. Blazers make 8 more threes. Win by 7. That's the strategy baby!

I'm honestly shocked though, at how bad the Lakers are.

 

[Tince]

I'm honestly shocked though, at how bad the Lakers are.

Like us, they're built a little funky. Their top two players are obviously better than ours, and their role players have better size that us, but teams who can't shoot are always going to be exposed to losing on nights like tonight. Even with 3 head coaches on their bench, it's hard to find ways to win if you can shoot!

 

[KSF-ERIC]

I'm honestly shocked though, at how bad the Lakers are.

It’s cuz of Terry’s defense! Are you enjoying this “farce” yet?

 

[Tince]

It’s cuz of Terry’s defense! Are you enjoying this “farce” yet?

It's a total farce. Hopefully it's just people using the same logic against those who think all the made threes against us are because of Terry's defense.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I said it before the game play zone make them beat you from 3. I like playing both Whiteside and Nurk together. Only downside is leaves you open for offensive rebounds.

strategy to beat Lakers
1. Limit easy possessions (fast breaks)
2. Keep LeBron out of lane as much as possible double anytime he gets close to the paint
3. They can’t keep up offensively so get as many possessions as possible. Get shots up within 12-15 seconds of shot clock.

 

[Natebishop3]

Honestly, if they're gonna call the foul every time anyway, I say we start slapping the ever loving shit out of Davis.

 

[illmatic99]

This is not a good sign

 

[KSF-ERIC]

This is not a good sign

It's a great sign. Lakers shot terribly during the seeding games. Some thought they'd flip the switch but they can't. They've continued to shoot terribly. We've got this series. Maybe sweep. Definitely in 5 games.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

It's a total farce. Hopefully it's just people using the same logic against those who think all the made threes against us are because of Terry's defense.

No. Nate said the whole Bubble was a farce, that Pelicans were going to make playoffs.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is not a good sign

I think it was a strategy though. Make their crappy role players beat us. They're not shooting a good percentage right now at all.

 

[illmatic99]

I think it was a strategy though. Make their crappy role players beat us. They're not shooting a good percentage right now at all.

Don't think that was intentional defense, more just poor effort getting around screens or making strong closeouts. While they're missing shots now, this is just playing with fire with NBA players.

 

[Labinot41]

Honestly, if they're gonna call the foul every time anyway, I say we start slapping the ever loving shit out of Davis.

I wonder who we could sacrafice for a hard hard foul, something between a flagrant 1 and flagrant 2

 

[blazerkor]

I wonder who we could sacrafice for a hard hard foul, something between a flagrant 1 and flagrant 2

This roster is so thin we'd have to bring Hoard off the bench... he is literally the only guy we can sacrifice right now... everyone else has to play and Ant couldn't foul AD in a way that would make that point.

 

[Tince]

Most of them are contested.

You still standing by your take?