Forming Alliances

[Tyrant of Ants]

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[Fez Hammersticks]

Roy/Aldridge/Przybilla/Blake

Oden/Miller/Rudy

That's my guess on these newly formed alliances.

KP is no chemistry major.

 

[B-Roy]

It's like a damn highschool.

 

[Haakzilla]

...that's what happens when you don't start your best 5 players at each position

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'd consider the source before taking this claim of 'alliances' too seriously ... I'm not saying it's impossible, but his reports read like People magazine sometimes.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'd consider the source before taking this claim of 'alliances' too seriously ... I'm not saying it's impossible, but his reports read like People magazine sometimes.

I don't know..... that quote from Oden about Miller being a "breath of fresh air" was pretty telling I think.

 

[Kaydow]

I'd consider the source before taking this claim of 'alliances' too seriously ... I'm not saying it's impossible, but his reports read like People magazine sometimes.

I agree 100%. However, did you catch Joel's quote?

"If you have been around here in the past, you can just feel how it's different," center Joel Przybilla said. "There's a frustration ... You can feel it, you can see it in the guys' shoulders. It's like there's a monkey on our back. We're not the type of guys who will yell at each other, or throw things, but we have to find a way to get on the same page. I mean, we know the fans are frustrated, but trust me, we are too. But there isn't a better time for us to have three practices than right now."

I don't think he's talking about just the last 3 games.

 

[Boise Blazer]

When I read about the "alliances" I couldnt help but think, "What the fuck is this? The Survivor show?" IF this is true, this is not good at all.

 

[maxiep]

I'm not too concerned. We're working out the kinks of some new pieces, some new roles and some pieces missing we thought we would have.

It's a long season.

 

[Idog1976]

`All I care about is Oden resigning. If there was even a chance that Roy was going to alienate Oden into not resigning I would trade him. Just like that. Obviously for a star. On the plus side, it somewhat appeared like Roy was taking some responsibility in there:

"I've been thinking too much ... instead of just looking at myself," Roy said. "I have to get back to worrying about just playing, instead of going out there and playing and pointing fingers and worrying about this and that. I started to realize that over the past couple days, especially tonight."

Suffice to say I'm a tad worried. Hopefully, Roy getting pwned by Wade even getting 25 shots was a reality check for him. Roy needs to never, ever, ever, never, ever, ever, EVER take a summer off EVER again.

 

[magnifier661]

I'd consider the source before taking this claim of 'alliances' too seriously ... I'm not saying it's impossible, but his reports read like People magazine sometimes.

Well there has been a point already. With a team meeting with only Nate, Roy, Aldridge and Oden, and nothing in that meeting was public, nor reported said to the team mates. That is proof there is division, even if this was needed.

 

[THE HCP]

I'm voting whoever started this thread OFF THE ISLAND!

 

[hasoos]

Man I hate seeing stuff like this. If this is true, that means we don't have a team leader. A team leader would step up and put this in order right away.

 

[handiman]

Roy has never been a true leader, in my opinion, just a team talker. His alpha dog act wore thin with me long before this season's troubles began, and I assumed it would only be a matter of time before his teammates stopped responding to the incessant yapping. Now that the league has figured out how to defend him, he's back to looking like the borderline all-star that he was all along if not for health issues or up and down play by the likes of Deron Williams, Tony Parker, and Baron Davis.

 

[PapaG]

Roy has never been a true leader, in my opinion, just a team talker. His alpha dog act wore thin with me long before this season's troubles began, and I assumed it would only be a matter of time before his teammates stopped responding to the incessant yapping. Now that the league has figured out how to defend him, he's back to looking like the borderline all-star that he was all along if not for health issues or up and down play by the likes of Deron Williams, Tony Parker, and Baron Davis.

Thank you for sharing your overly negative opinion on Brandon Roy.

 

[handiman]

Define "overly" negative... Is it "overly" if this season's play makes the opinion appear more correct than it did last year when the rosy luster hadn't yet worn off?

Roy was never a top-10 player in the league and likely never will be. Deal with it.

 

[LittleAlex]

When the coach shows obvious favoritism then there will be factions on the team.

Some guys get a short leash while others can suck for whole quarters.

It's not surprising that the factions listed above consist of the guys with a longer leash versus the guys with a shorter leash.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Thank you for sharing your overly negative opinion on Brandon Roy.

For someone with such strong opinions, I'm surprised you are going to attack a poster here with the "overly negative opinion."

I don't see posters responding to you like that when it comes to your posts about Miller.

 

[PapaG]

For someone with such strong opinions, I'm surprised you are going to attack a poster here with the "overly negative opinion."

Where did I attack the poster?

I don't see posters responding to you like that when it comes to your posts about Miller.

Which posts about Miller? The posts where I say he should be starting? Nice post.

 

[hasoos]

When the coach shows obvious favoritism then there will be factions on the team.

Some guys get a short leash while others can suck for whole quarters.

It's not surprising that the factions listed above consist of the guys with a longer leash versus the guys with a shorter leash.

What? Somebody would be pissed when the guy starting ahead of them fracks up for 3 quarters of the game, and they are in for 2 minutes and don't mess up in that time and they can't get no run? No way!

All I know is, if I was Rudy or Bayless, playing behind Blake would be one of the biggest insulting moves the coach could make.

 

[PapaG]

It sounds to me like people are excusing Andre Miller for creating divisions due to his own lack of PT (and production). How about he just acts like a "veteran" and bides his time? No wonder the guy has bounced around the league.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

You know, somebody said something somewhere about how this franchise never learns from its mistakes. But here we are getting our knickers in a twist about a report written by Jason Quick. In fact, the original poster knew that if (s)he made clear who it was by, it would instantly be dismissed. So let me broadcast it loud and clear: THE REPORT WAS BY JASON QUICK. I think he wishes he wrote for the soaps.

 

[hasoos]

It sounds to me like people are excusing Andre Miller for creating divisions due to his own lack of PT (and production). How about he just acts like a "veteran" and bides his time? No wonder the guy has bounced around the league.

Well considering I haven't seen him do anything to the contrary..what are you talking about? I haven't seen one interview with Miller making waves. I haven't seen one player saying Miller is a problem. In fact, I have seen Miller do pretty much everything Nate has asked of him. So I am puzzled at best by your statement.

 

[PapaG]

Well considering I haven't seen him do anything to the contrary..what are you talking about? I haven't seen one interview with Miller making waves. I haven't seen one player saying Miller is a problem. In fact, I have seen Miller do pretty much everything Nate has asked of him. So I am puzzled at best by your statement.

I'm talking about the alleged "alliances" being created on the team. If we're all going to go on speculation, I'm going to be suspect of the guy who can't stay on a team for 4 years.

Side note; this team really misses Outlaw.

 

[hasoos]

I'm talking about the alleged "alliances" being created on the team. If we're all going to go on speculation, I'm going to be suspect of the guy who can't stay on a team for 4 years.

Side note; this team really misses Outlaw.

I don't think it is so much as alliances as it is players getting sick of being treated unequal by their coach. People tend to form bonds by commonality. There are several players on this team that can do no wrong in Nates eyes, while there are other guys who are more talented who get shafted every game. How long would you put up with that before you started to turn on your coach? The only people you could vent to would be players in a similar situation.

 

[PapaG]

I don't think it is so much as alliances as it is players getting sick of being treated unequal by their coach. People tend to form bonds by commonality. There are several players on this team that can do no wrong in Nates eyes, while there are other guys who are more talented who get shafted every game. How long would you put up with that before you started to turn on your coach? The only people you could vent to would be players in a similar situation.

How do we know it's any of it. Plus, who on the team besides Oden and Bayless (in limited minutes) is actually playing better than they did last season, Miller included?

 

[hasoos]

How do we know it's any of it. Plus, who on the team besides Oden and Bayless (in limited minutes) is actually playing better than they did last season, Miller included?

We don't know it's any of it. But if there was that is what I would put my money on.

Rudy was actually shooting in the .550 range when he was getting consistent minutes. At one point he was shooting .550 from 2 pt land and .450 from 3 point land. Then his minutes started getting jerked around. With players like Rudy, who can score a lot real fast, you have to stick with them because it might not be quarter1, quarter2, or quarter 3 where they go off. They can't get on a hot streak without being in the game.

Meanwhile, Steve Blake is shooting .379 through this portion of the season. He can't do any wrong. He is Steve Blake.

 

[Nikolokolus]

How do we know it's any of it. Plus, who on the team besides Oden and Bayless (in limited minutes) is actually playing better than they did last season, Miller included?

Ummm ... Is this a trick question?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Where did I attack the poster?



Which posts about Miller? The posts where I say he should be starting? Nice post.

"Thank you for your overly negative opinion of Miller" . . . would you consider that a genuine thank you?

Your kidding if you think by saying they should give one last chance and start Miller and then trade him is you being supportive of Miller . . . you are one of the biggest Miller bashers here, you don't see that?

 

[PapaG]

We don't know it's any of it. But if there was that is what I would put my money on.

Rudy was actually shooting in the .550 range when he was getting consistent minutes. At one point he was shooting .550 from 2 pt land and .450 from 3 point land. Then his minutes started getting jerked around. With players like Rudy, who can score a lot real fast, you have to stick with them because it might not be quarter1, quarter2, or quarter 3 where they go off. They can't get on a hot streak without being in the game.

Meanwhile, Steve Blake is shooting .379 through this portion of the season. He can't do any wrong. He is Steve Blake.

Rudy's minutes went down because he is playing like crap. Nate didn't limit his minutes until Rudy showed zero interest on defense and started missing shots.

Bayless is starting to see the court more. If Blake continues to stumble, I'm sure he'll be benched. That said, Blake wasn't the problem last night. He played OK.