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Phatguysrule said:
But that forces them to do a lot with less time. There is a much greater chance they'll make a mistake and you'll be in a better situation. And even if everything goes wrong, the worst case scenario is that you have to play tough defense anyway. But this time they'll have less time to set something up.

You're far more likely to succeed in that situation.
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I disagree but that’s ok. It’s obviously polarizing because not every coach does it.
 
Clippers just fouled up 3 with 12 seconds left. 10 game seconds later, the Clippers were only up 1 and Sacramento had the ball. Essentially, the Clippers chose to defend up 1 than to defend up 3. The Clippers won the game but by fouling up 3, they increased their chances of losing.
 
KingSpeed said:
Clippers just fouled up 3 with 12 seconds left. 10 game seconds later, the Clippers were only up 1 and Sacramento had the ball. Essentially, the Clippers chose to defend up 1 than to defend up 3. The Clippers won the game but by fouling up 3, they increased their chances of losing.
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Warriors fans woud've wanted the Kings to win that game
 
KingSpeed said:
Clippers just fouled up 3 with 12 seconds left. 10 game seconds later, the Clippers were only up 1 and Sacramento had the ball. Essentially, the Clippers chose to defend up 1 than to defend up 3. The Clippers won the game but by fouling up 3, they increased their chances of losing.
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Clippers fouled with 3.2 seconds left, up 3, not 12 seconds left
 
KingSpeed said:
Clippers just fouled up 3 with 12 seconds left. 10 game seconds later, the Clippers were only up 1 and Sacramento had the ball. Essentially, the Clippers chose to defend up 1 than to defend up 3. The Clippers won the game but by fouling up 3, they increased their chances of losing.
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Except a 3pt shot or and-1 would have tied the game, drastically increasing the odds of overtime. By fouling smartly you removed the possibility a 3 point possession.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Except a 3pt shot or and-1 would have tied the game, drastically increasing the odds of overtime. By fouling smartly you removed the possibility a 3 point possession.
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well, make the first free throw, intentionally miss the second and a put back is a possibility, it involves luck
 
inconceivable said:
well, make the first free throw, intentionally miss the second and a put back is a possibility, it involves luck
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Good point. But let's be real. If you let that happen to you then you just didn't want to win. Lol
 
Allowing the other team to hit their 3-pointer to tie the game does not mean the worst outcome for the team that was ahead by 3 is a tie.

The team that was ahead and didn't foul could also still lose in regulation (unless the shot was at the buzzer.)
 
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KingSpeed said:
Yes there is. If you foul them and they make both, you will be under the gun to make 2 or potentially losing in regulation. How do you not understand this?
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Incorrect. You said the team fouling, would then be in a "we must make these FT" situation. This is factually incorrect. Let me give an example.

Team up 3 fouls with 12 seconds left.
Team down 3 makes both FTs, and is now down one.
Team up 1 gets fouled with 8 second left and misses both FTs.
Team down 1 misses shot to win with 2 second left and time expires.

The team up 3, that fouled, DIDN'T have to make any FTs and still won. How do you not understand this? And the scenario a came up with is highly unlikely to happen. The odds of the team down 3 making both FTs and the team with the lead missing both FTs is very low.
 
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blazerfan11 said:
Allowing the other team to hit their 3-pointer to tie the game does not mean the worst outcome for the team that was ahead by 3 is a tie.
They could also still lose in regulation (unless the shot was at the buzzer.)
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The question is: Are you more concerned about reducing the odds of losing in regulation or increase the odds of winning?

Allowing a 3pt attempt INCREASES the odds of losing in OT at a great percentage than fouling increases the odds of losing in regulation. It's really that simple.

Lets also remember that by not fouling on purpose, means you end up defending a 3pt shot, increasing the possibility of fouling a 3pt shooter and possibly giving up a 4pt play.
 
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wizenheimer said:
Clippers fouled with 3.2 seconds left, up 3, not 12 seconds left
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You are correct. It felt different. And they still ended up down 1, Sacramento ball with more than 2 secs left so it’s worse than what I said.
 
inconceivable said:
I don't think Mediocre Man is a liker. The Blazers will win a ring before he likes any post
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He doesn't like me.
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I can understand fouling up 3 with less than 5 seconds. But I've never understood when there's more time than that. Winning team is creating a free throw game with a very real chance they miss first.

It also makes the end of these games unwatchable. It started a few years ago in the regular season but now its happening in tons of playoff games. I hope there is a rule change. They could do under 30 seconds the losing team can opt for a single free throw and the ball or something.
 
doesn't matter what strategy is employed....if it's executed poorly, it will fail. OKC executed poorly
 
OKC is the last team that should do this. Supposed best defense in the league, that too with Jokic on the bench... Just play it out.

Fraud team, with an idiot coach. Dude completely overthought his way into a loss.

Also... SGA has no business winning MVP. He needs to just pass that trophy along to Jokic.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I can understand fouling up 3 with less than 5 seconds. But I've never understood when there's more time than that. Winning team is creating a free throw game with a very real chance they miss first.

It also makes the end of these games unwatchable. It started a few years ago in the regular season but now its happening in tons of playoff games. I hope there is a rule change. They could do under 30 seconds the losing team can opt for a single free throw and the ball or something.
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You don't even need a free throw, just the option to skip the free throws and retain possession in the last 30 seconds or last minute.

That would end the practice.
 
Phatguysrule said:
You don't even need a free throw, just the option to skip the free throws and retain possession in the last 30 seconds or last minute.

That would end the practice.
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No that wouldn't work.

If the trailing team was in a situation it was better to skip the free throw what stops the other team from just physically going for steals nonstop? There needs to be some sort of penalty for the foul or teams would foul endlessly.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
No that wouldn't work.

If the trailing team was in a situation it was better to skip the free throw what stops the other team from just physically going for steals nonstop? There needs to be some sort of penalty for the foul or teams would foul endlessly.
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Every foul waste time.
 
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