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This is part of an offseason series on various things of certain natures that each Blazer can work on during the summer to prepare for the 2010-2011 title push. This is strictly about on-court performance, so topics like trades and contracts are not discussed at length. Remember to click “Continue Reading” at the jump.

It’s been a strange journey so far for Jerryd Bayless. He’s gone from no playing time, to playing time, to being awful in playing time, to being better in less playing time, to offseason excitement, to an uneven Summer League, to Andre Miller being signed, back to no playing time, Team Bayless uniting in his defense, injuries opening the door, having a few breakout games, going back to playing poorly, Steve Blake being traded giving him more minutes, using those minutes to mixed results and finally ending the season on a positive note with an aggressive series against Phoenix.

See much consistency in there? Other than it being a consistently run-on sentence, neither do I. It’s hardly uncommon for young players to see their minutes fluctuate, but the point guard position is the toughest to develop your skills at when you aren’t getting repetitions with certain situations and lineups, particularly when it’s often unclear from game to game whether you’re even playing point guard or not.

None of this gives Bayless a special pass, and he shouldn’t need one, having vaulted Martell Webster and Rudy Fernandez and the young bench player with the most promise. And now, with Andre Miller locked in for next year, Bayless is going into his first offseason with a definite role to fill and no spotlight hovering over him during a sham of a Summer League where he was supposed to “learn” the point while playing with inferior teammates.

It’s possible that that’s not what’s best for Bayless, career-wise. If he was able to focus solely on being an explosive bench scorer on a high-volume team like the Golden State Warriors, Jerryd could probably put up deceptive high-scoring numbers and earn himself a fat paycheck from a GM willing to pay up for glossy scoring ability. But what’s best for the Blazers is Bayless becoming a combo-guard in the truest sense: someone who can do a little bit of everything. That slows his progression and provides less immediate gratification, but it’s the best way to increase his win shares and for his part, publicly, Bayless seems to have bought into this concept after a touch-and-go rookie season.

So, no, we’re not going to shoehorn Bayless into a position he doesn’t have the natural instincts for. He doesn’t need to become a complete point guard to eventually start next to Brandon Roy and/or make a consistent, efficient impact over the course of a season, he just needs to be a complete player, one who can initiate offensive sets and share the playmaking load from there. He doesn’t need to be Steve Nash or Rajon Rondo, he just needs to fit, and here are some things he can work on to do that:

Jumper, Jumper, Jumper: Excuse us for captaining the SS Obvious, but when you shoot 41 percent from the field , 38 percent from 16-23 feet and 31 percent from three, your shot probably needs some work. He doesn’t have to become a sniper, but as long as he converts over half his shots at the rim, Bayless would be doing just fine if he can approach 42 percent from mid-range and 36 from deep. It’s one thing to be a threat to shoot, it’s another to be a threat to make, and if he’s going to be effective with Oden in the middle, he needs to be much more of the latter.

Offensive Decision Making: Now, even if that jumper does improve, Bayless doesn’t need to shoot more. He attempted a field goal on 69.8 percent of the pick-and-rolls he ran, which is less than Nash (76.8 percent), Tony Parker (76.3), Rondo (74.2 percent) and Jameer Nelson (80 percent). In those situations, the Blazers scored 43.8 percent of the time, which was within 1.1 percent of all those point guards, and exactly even with Nelson. With the Blazers running enough isolation offense as is, the more balanced the pick-and-rolls can be, the better. Bayless’ problem, however, is that if he gets any space for the jumper, he’s shooting it, and with the play often being early in the shot clock, this leads to little movement on offense, both of personnel and the ball. Bayless needs to recognize that just because the shot is there, that doesn’t mean it’s the best shot the offense can create.

Stay Aggressive: The best trait Bayless displayed in the Phoenix series was an aggressiveness in the open court. Whether the Suns scored or not, Bayless was racing down the floor to see what developed. While he forces the ball into an established defense at times, it’s a better use of his assets to run first and slowdown second than just begin slowly in the first place — just watch how Rondo is pressuring the Cleveland transition defense. I’m not saying Portland needs to become a running team, but if Bayless is probing and putting the defense on its heels, he’s going to create running lanes for Aldridge, driving lanes for Roy and space for deep position for Oden. And when he’s the primary playmaker with the second unit, we saw the past few weeks that if Bayless isn’t aggressive, that group doesn’t have many places to go.

Guarding the Pick-and-Roll: One of the larger post-trade deadline issues on defense was the dropoff in pick-and-roll defense from Andre Miller to Bayless. Initiate any contact on Jerryd and he dies on the pick, resulting in him either chasing the play, in a mismatch with a big man or being taking completely out of the possession — and it doesn’t seem to matter when Bayless knows the screen is coming or not. We can’t knock his effort on the defensive end, but he needs to make more deliberate decisions, stop reacting to the ball handler and make the ball handler react to how he got through the pick. Jerryd will be helped by having forwards more athletic than Juwan Howard hedging out on ballhandlers, but if he’s ever going to be a starter, he can’t settle for not being a defensive liability — he needs to be, if not a stopper, a defensive hindrance.

There are a couple different avenues for Bayless in terms of who he can study to help improve his game. From Andre Miller he can learn how to defend against picks. From Tony Parker he can learn how to balance scoring and game managing without a consistent three-point shot. From Rondo he can learn how to use his athleticism as an asset. And from Nelson he can learn how to interact with a physically-advantageous center and get him the ball in good position, either above the rim or in the paint.

But the person to emulate the most — someone whose point guard skills were much, much, much better than Bayless’ — is the 6-foot-1 Kevin Johnson, from whom Bayless can learn offensive balance:

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5. Jerryd needs to play alongside Petteri Koponen. It was because of PK that he had that splashy summer league. Koponen is about the same size as Rudy, only a better defender and an actual PG.

I don't know about other people, but the more Jerryd gets to play, the more obvious it is that he just isn't a PG. Who was it who said, on watching him in the playoffs, "that guy is the most selfish player I've ever seen"? I read it somewhere.
 
It's painful how many of those KJ highlights are against the Blazers. Not that painful, though - didn't the Drexler/Porter Blazers always beat the Suns?

Two things I remember most about KJ:
1. He had an absolutely unstoppable stop-and-pop shot (that he used almost all the time - that highlight film is completely unrepresentative. I think it contains all the dunks he ever did in his entire career.)
2. He looked like an angry gerbil.
 
5. Jerryd needs to play alongside Petteri Koponen. It was because of PK that he had that splashy summer league. Koponen is about the same size as Rudy, only a better defender and an actual PG.

I don't know about other people, but the more Jerryd gets to play, the more obvious it is that he just isn't a PG. Who was it who said, on watching him in the playoffs, "that guy is the most selfish player I've ever seen"? I read it somewhere.
It was from a Dwight Jaynes article.

Edit: My mistake. Nik is correct below, I knew it was DJ though.
 
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He needs to work on his jumper 1-4. Hell, he could hire me and I could help 'defend him'....
 
5. Jerryd needs to play alongside Petteri Koponen. It was because of PK that he had that splashy summer league. Koponen is about the same size as Rudy, only a better defender and an actual PG.

I don't know about other people, but the more Jerryd gets to play, the more obvious it is that he just isn't a PG. Who was it who said, on watching him in the playoffs, "that guy is the most selfish player I've ever seen"? I read it somewhere.

Dwight Jaynes said it on the MSP referring to an unnamed national writer that he knows.

As for your main point, that he needs to play alongside PK, I don't know, but you are right that he is not a guy you turn over the reins to your offense and expect him to set people up and make his teammates necessarily better ... I'm pretty certain that if he sticks with this team it's going to be as a reserve who can come in and change the tempo and inject a spark into the team, and that's only if his shooting percentages rise another 5% minimum from the floor and at least another 7% from three point range; 41/31% just isn't going to cut it for a guy who doesn't know how to initiate offense for a team.
 
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Jerryd's play in the playoffs got me excited about him again, and we know he's a hard worker and is going to keep improving. After averaging 13.5pts/4asts in the playoffs, I'm excited to see what he can do next year. Everyone's talking about grabbing a guy out of the draft, but forget Jerryd would have only been a junior in college this year and would be crushing everyone. He can average 20pts/G in this league.
 
Jerryd's play in the playoffs got me excited about him again, and we know he's a hard worker and is going to keep improving. After averaging 13.5pts/4asts in the playoffs, I'm excited to see what he can do next year. Everyone's talking about grabbing a guy out of the draft, but forget Jerryd would have only been a junior in college this year and would be crushing everyone. He can average 20pts/G in this league.

OK this is the thing I'm talking about people when I've suggested the team should at least explore the idea of trading Bayless now while he has some value. I completely agree that as the featured guy (or a primary player) in an offense, Jerryd very well could score 20 points per game ... but does anybody honestly expect him to do that on this team? Does this team desperately need a slashing, undersized 2 guard with questionable court vision and, a shaky outside shot? With Brandon being at his best initiating offense at least part of the time in pick and roll situations and LaMarcus, Greg and Batum probably needing a steady diet of shots and integration into the offense from here on out, I think this team probably needs a true distributor to be Miller's backup and eventual replacement, with a minimum of a good outside shot or really good perimeter defense and (if you could get both so much the better).

Maybe Jerryd makes a big leap in production, efficiency and court awareness this coming season, but really I think it's far more likely that he continues to hone what he's best at (getting to the line and attacking the hoop) and only slightly improves his shooting percentages and ability to initiate the offense -- him bucking the odds and becoming the second coming of Chauncey Billups would be the exception, not the rule.

This isn't a matter of trading him at all costs, but he should be available if he can help net the team a point who can spread the floor with his shot, who understands how to set a team up and can defend at a reasonably high level; the prototype would be a point like Hinrich, Derrick Fisher (in his prime), or even a young guy like Jrue Holliday. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and Petteri can be that guy for this team and there won't be any need to trade Bayless, everything works out and in a couple of years you get a highly productive three guard rotation of Roy, Petko and Bayless?
 
Who was it who said, on watching him in the playoffs, "that guy is the most selfish player I've ever seen"? I read it somewhere.

It was me, after his first game in his first Summer League. Everyone said how great he was, getting 80 ppg, and I said he was a selfish bastard ruining all his teammates' chances to look good, like Petteri's not being able to dribble and playmake.
 
OK this is the thing I'm talking about people when I've suggested the team should at least explore the idea of trading Bayless now while he has some value. I completely agree that as the featured guy (or a primary player) in an offense, Jerryd very well could score 20 points per game ... but does anybody honestly expect him to do that on this team?

No, don't think Jerryd will ever be a 20 ppg guy with this group. I guess, I'm looking for a more reasonable 15 and 7 or something along thos lines. I do however think he's going to be a mainstay on this roster for one reason , and one reason alone. He's the only player that can get to the hoop whenever he wants. Brandon and Andre like to get to the rim, but as we saw all last season, defenses can adjust to stop that. Jerryds quickness and tenacity makes him an almost impossible guard, especially when he develops that consitant 15 footer.

With his ability to penetrate, Bayless should make everyone on the floor with him better, especially Oden. Now will that ever happen? I sure hope so!
 
No, don't think Jerryd will ever be a 20 ppg guy with this group. I guess, I'm looking for a more reasonable 15 and 7 or something along thos lines. I do however think he's going to be a mainstay on this roster for one reason , and one reason alone. He's the only player that can get to the hoop whenever he wants. Brandon and Andre like to get to the rim, but as we saw all last season, defenses can adjust to stop that. Jerryds quickness and tenacity makes him an almost impossible guard, especially when he develops that consitant 15 footer.

With his ability to penetrate, Bayless should make everyone on the floor with him better, especially Oden. Now will that ever happen? I sure hope so!

For one thing he can't get to the hoop whenever he wants ... well maybe he can get there, but team's have completely adjusted and as we saw all too often last year they'd shadow him from the weakside and cap him from behind when he got there, secondly you say "when" he develops a fifteen footer, how about "if?" Lastly, Jerryd doesn't look for people very often when he drives to the hoop, which doesn't exactly make Greg or anybody else better ... well it might help pad Greg's offensive rebounding percentage I guess.

My only point is that when a team asks a player to completely retool their game and do something they aren't very good at instinctively, instead of trying to maximize a player's strengths it usually blows up in their faces. Maybe if a high school or AAU coach had gotten a hold of him earlier and allowed him the opportunity to experiment in live game situations where the stakes weren't so high and the margin of error so slim, like they are now, then his chances of becoming a true point guard would be a lot higher. My advice is to just embrace what he is, and hopefully the team does that too and carves out a role for him on this roster that let's Jerryd be Jerryd ... If they can't then I hope they move him while he has some value.
 
5. Jerryd needs to play alongside Petteri Koponen. It was because of PK that he had that splashy summer league. Koponen is about the same size as Rudy, only a better defender and an actual PG.
PK is over 2" shorter then Rudy with a standing reach of 4.5" less. If paired with Bayless in the backcourt both would be undersized covering most 2Gs. Nonetheless, too bad he sustained a broken foot as his lateral quickness/ability to stay with NBA PGs on D is what I've gleaned as his biggest issue, but hopefully he's healed up by training camp. Certainly his outside threat has got to be an attractive quality to Blazer management which has made repeated mention of wanting more of that on the roster.

to the OP link... I just want JB to improve his jumper. If that continues to trend up it will open up more PT for him

STOMP
 
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PK is over 2" shorter then Rudy with a standing reach of 4.5" less. If paired with Bayless in the backcourt both would be undersized covering most 2Gs. Nonetheless, too bad he sustained a broken foot as his lateral quickness/ability to stay with NBA PGs on D is what I've gleaned as his biggest issue, but hopefully he's healed up by training camp. Certainly his outside threat has got to be an attractive quality to Blazer management which has made repeated mention of wanting more of that on the roster.

STOMP

I can't remember where I read it, but supposedly Petko has grown a little bit. He's something like 6'5" now ... who knows what his wingspan and standing reach are now however. that said I didn't get the impression from recent articles and reports that Petteri was intending to come over this year (especially with the busted wheel).
 
I can't remember where I read it, but supposedly Petko has grown a little bit. He's something like 6'5" now ... who knows what his wingspan and standing reach are now however. that said I didn't get the impression from recent articles and reports that Petteri was intending to come over this year (especially with the busted wheel).
I recall that being Barrett during PK's 2nd Blazer camp.

It seems that half the current roster is supposed to have grown post 18 years old. While of course I'd be all for PK to have shot up an inch or two, stats say late growth is very unlikely and those that do post 18 y/old usually don't experience such a significant spurt. Lets keep an eye out for him standing next to other Blazers during camp :) My link has him just over Jerryd's height, a couple inch spurt would have him Rudy's size

STOMP
 
For one thing he can't get to the hoop whenever he wants ... well maybe he can get there, but team's have completely adjusted and as we saw all too often last year they'd shadow him from the weakside and cap him from behind when he got there, secondly you say "when" he develops a fifteen footer, how about "if?" Lastly, Jerryd doesn't look for people very often when he drives to the hoop, which doesn't exactly make Greg or anybody else better ... well it might help pad Greg's offensive rebounding percentage I guess.

My only point is that when a team asks a player to completely retool their game and do something they aren't very good at instinctively, instead of trying to maximize a player's strengths it usually blows up in their faces. Maybe if a high school or AAU coach had gotten a hold of him earlier and allowed him the opportunity to experiment in live game situations where the stakes weren't so high and the margin of error so slim, like they are now, then his chances of becoming a true point guard would be a lot higher. My advice is to just embrace what he is, and hopefully the team does that too and carves out a role for him on this roster that let's Jerryd be Jerryd ... If they can't then I hope they move him while he has some value.


It sounds like you're speaking in definites about a player that is what 22 years old?

Getting to the hoop whenever he wants doesn't necessarily entail scoring whenever he wants. The first rule of offense is to beat your man and force the defense to help out. Bayless DOES get to the rim whenever he wants, now it's up to Jerryd to adjust his game and look for his post players that will be open when the defense rotates off of them (hence why Oden should be better when they're on the court together).

And, why should we believe that Bayless won't develop his 15 foot jump shot? By all means, he seems like a young man intent on making a name in the league. Do you think he doesn't have the drive or the ability to work on his mid range game over the summer?

Again, he's young and developing. I'll continue to go back to Tony Parker when he came into the league as a YOUNG player. Like Bayless, got to the hoop at will but couldn't buy an outside shot. He's developed over the years into a really dependable outside shooter and I see no reason that Bayless won't follow the same path.
 
I think down the road he can definitely play the "poor man's Tony Parker" role on this team. Especially when we have the "rich man's Manu Ginobili" (Roy) in the other guard position, and assuming Oden can play the "Sherman tank's Tim Duncan" role, with Batum in the "Spiderman's Bruce Bowen" role, and Aldridge as the "rich man's wealthier best friend's even wealthier uncle who made a killing getting bailed out by the Federal Government version of Tim Duncan's ho-hum center side-kick" role. Cast Joel's hot little MILF for Eva Longoria and Assclown McScribbles as Coyote (the Spurs mascot). That leaves me in the role as "middle-aged man's Greg Popovich" (but with much better skin).

See? It all works.
 
OK this is the thing I'm talking about people when I've suggested the team should at least explore the idea of trading Bayless now while he has some value. I completely agree that as the featured guy (or a primary player) in an offense, Jerryd very well could score 20 points per game ... but does anybody honestly expect him to do that on this team? Does this team desperately need a slashing, undersized 2 guard with questionable court vision and, a shaky outside shot? With Brandon being at his best initiating offense at least part of the time in pick and roll situations and LaMarcus, Greg and Batum probably needing a steady diet of shots and integration into the offense from here on out, I think this team probably needs a true distributor to be Miller's backup and eventual replacement, with a minimum of a good outside shot or really good perimeter defense and (if you could get both so much the better).

Maybe Jerryd makes a big leap in production, efficiency and court awareness this coming season, but really I think it's far more likely that he continues to hone what he's best at (getting to the line and attacking the hoop) and only slightly improves his shooting percentages and ability to initiate the offense -- him bucking the odds and becoming the second coming of Chauncey Billups would be the exception, not the rule.

This isn't a matter of trading him at all costs, but he should be available if he can help net the team a point who can spread the floor with his shot, who understands how to set a team up and can defend at a reasonably high level; the prototype would be a point like Hinrich, Derrick Fisher (in his prime), or even a young guy like Jrue Holliday. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and Petteri can be that guy for this team and there won't be any need to trade Bayless, everything works out and in a couple of years you get a highly productive three guard rotation of Roy, Petko and Bayless?

You say this like he's not going to get better or something. I think he's only going to get better and thus his value will go up. His game improved much like Batum's did. They both made big strides this year.

Saying Bayless can average 20pts/G in this league doesn't mean he'll do it on this team, just that he has the ability to be that kind of player, which I think he does. He doesn't necessarily have to average 20pts/G for that statement to be true.

Not sure a true PG is what this team needs. If Bayless gets an outside shot he'd be pretty close to what the Blazers need imo. He'll need to be a better passer as well, and he's shown flashes of being a good passer.

To top it all off Bayless seems to be a mentally tough player with a killer instinct. He goes for the throat. He just needs to keep improving, which I think he will because of his work ethic. He's an interesting wild card going into next year.
 
Jerryd's play in the playoffs got me excited about him again, and we know he's a hard worker and is going to keep improving. After averaging 13.5pts/4asts in the playoffs, I'm excited to see what he can do next year. Everyone's talking about grabbing a guy out of the draft, but forget Jerryd would have only been a junior in college this year and would be crushing everyone. He can average 20pts/G in this league.


I agree. I believe the playoffs tell more about a player than most of the regular season games do, especially when looking at developing talent. Some players are guys that step up their game when the playoffs come. Some players are not. His first year in the playoffs he stepped up, not out, like some guards on the team (cough...cough....Rudy..cough...)
 
It sounds like you're speaking in definites about a player that is what 22 years old?

Getting to the hoop whenever he wants doesn't necessarily entail scoring whenever he wants. The first rule of offense is to beat your man and force the defense to help out. Bayless DOES get to the rim whenever he wants, now it's up to Jerryd to adjust his game and look for his post players that will be open when the defense rotates off of them (hence why Oden should be better when they're on the court together).

And, why should we believe that Bayless won't develop his 15 foot jump shot? By all means, he seems like a young man intent on making a name in the league. Do you think he doesn't have the drive or the ability to work on his mid range game over the summer?

Again, he's young and developing. I'll continue to go back to Tony Parker when he came into the league as a YOUNG player. Like Bayless, got to the hoop at will but couldn't buy an outside shot. He's developed over the years into a really dependable outside shooter and I see no reason that Bayless won't follow the same path.

This sounds a whole lot like what I've heard about Martell his whole career (ie. the "Young, hard working, due for a breakout" argument). Sometimes players do surprise and take a major leap forward and in Jerryd's case he did go from an almost completely useless rookie, evidenced by his PER of 8 to becoming a somewhat effective slashing combo guard who occasionally makes the easy pass (usually in transition) but who doesn't show a whole lot of vision or intuitive grasp of a team game.

I guess what we're really talking about are probabilities. What's more probable, Jerryd making vast improvements in areas that he's not very strong or being able to trade him (alone or in a package) for a player who already possesses the qualities that would fit more naturally into the team's needs?
 
PK is over 2" shorter then Rudy with a standing reach of 4.5" less. If paired with Bayless in the backcourt both would be undersized covering most 2Gs. Nonetheless, too bad he sustained a broken foot as his lateral quickness/ability to stay with NBA PGs on D is what I've gleaned as his biggest issue, but hopefully he's healed up by training camp. Certainly his outside threat has got to be an attractive quality to Blazer management which has made repeated mention of wanting more of that on the roster.

to the OP link... I just want JB to improve his jumper. If that continues to trend up it will open up more PT for him

STOMP

Isn't PK still on contract with his Euro team for several years? like 2 or 3 more?
 
I think down the road he can definitely play the "poor man's Tony Parker" role on this team. Especially when we have the "rich man's Manu Ginobili" (Roy) in the other guard position

1. Tony Parker was the starter on a championship team as a 19-year-old rookie. Playing for a coach who's even harder on rookies than McMillan. Bayless would have to go a long way to be a poor man's Parker. Who is twice as quick as him, and actually a PG, even if a shoot-first one.
2. Roy is not the "rich man's Ginobili". Roy is the poor man's Ginobili. It constantly amazes me how people underrate Ginobili. Go back and watch the 2005 finals and watch how Ginobili should have been the MVP. I guess they're both injury-prone. But Ginobili is much more creative than Roy, and probably a better defender.
 
1. Tony Parker was the starter on a championship team as a 19-year-old rookie. Playing for a coach who's even harder on rookies than McMillan. Bayless would have to go a long way to be a poor man's Parker. Who is twice as quick as him, and actually a PG, even if a shoot-first one.
2. Roy is not the "rich man's Ginobili". Roy is the poor man's Ginobili. It constantly amazes me how people underrate Ginobili. Go back and watch the 2005 finals and watch how Ginobili should have been the MVP. I guess they're both injury-prone. But Ginobili is much more creative than Roy, and probably a better defender.

Agreed on both counts.
 
1. Tony Parker was the starter on a championship team as a 19-year-old rookie. Playing for a coach who's even harder on rookies than McMillan. Bayless would have to go a long way to be a poor man's Parker. Who is twice as quick as him, and actually a PG, even if a shoot-first one.
2. Roy is not the "rich man's Ginobili". Roy is the poor man's Ginobili. It constantly amazes me how people underrate Ginobili. Go back and watch the 2005 finals and watch how Ginobili should have been the MVP. I guess they're both injury-prone. But Ginobili is much more creative than Roy, and probably a better defender.

".....and the rest of the team sucks to!!"

Please, no quips about how LaMarcus is soft or Greg's injury prone?

Sometimes I wonder when I read this board if there's any sunshine in some of the posters lifes.

(BTW, I think Bayless could hang with Parker in a race. Just saying....)
 
Just because some people attempt to temper expectations and make a good faith attempt to honestly evaluate the team, its coaching, players and management without overstating strengths and minimizing weaknesses, doesn't mean we're bitter or down on life. C'mon.

Some of us want this team to win a championship and have no loyalty except to the success of the team, with little or no loyalty to any of the individual constituent parts except insofar as those parts contribute to the larger goal of a championship -- I'd like to see the team trade Brandon, Oden, LaMarcus or anybody else on this team if they thought it would get them closer to a championship.
 
1. Tony Parker was the starter on a championship team as a 19-year-old rookie. Playing for a coach who's even harder on rookies than McMillan. Bayless would have to go a long way to be a poor man's Parker. Who is twice as quick as him, and actually a PG, even if a shoot-first one.

Both guys are very quick. Both guys like to finish in the middle. Bayless draws fouls better, but Parker does everything else better. I don't think Bayless will ever be nearly as good as Parker, but it's not hard to see how he can play that same type of role where he pushes the ball up and if nothing's there he gives it up to others to get the half court offense moving.

2. Roy is not the "rich man's Ginobili". Roy is the poor man's Ginobili. It constantly amazes me how people underrate Ginobili. Go back and watch the 2005 finals and watch how Ginobili should have been the MVP. I guess they're both injury-prone. But Ginobili is much more creative than Roy, and probably a better defender.

Ginobili also played about 25% less of the time that season than Roy did last year. He was pretty phenomenal in the playoffs for that one year (24.8 PER) but again he played 6 minutes fewer per game than Roy did last year in the playoffs, and Roy had an even better PER (25.9). Ginobili is a better defender and more creative, but he's also easier to guard one-on-one and he can't be relied on for big minutes, and he's never been "the man" on an NBA team.

Other than that one playoffs, I think you'd have a pretty hard argument to make that Ginobili is superior to Roy. I'll concede that at times they were pretty equivalent, but Roy is by no means a "poor man's Ginobili."
 
PK is over 2" shorter then Rudy with a standing reach of 4.5" less. If paired with Bayless in the backcourt both would be undersized covering most 2Gs. Nonetheless, too bad he sustained a broken foot as his lateral quickness/ability to stay with NBA PGs on D is what I've gleaned as his biggest issue, but hopefully he's healed up by training camp. Certainly his outside threat has got to be an attractive quality to Blazer management which has made repeated mention of wanting more of that on the roster.

to the OP link... I just want JB to improve his jumper. If that continues to trend up it will open up more PT for him

STOMP

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And yes, I'm quite aware of just how fat and ugly I am.
 
Dang, I didn't know Koponen was that tall. He's got to be an inch, maybe two, taller than you.
 

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