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Glad they are catching these threats quickly. I know part of it is, everyone is vigilant right now because Uvalde. I hope these efforts don't wane.
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Glad they are catching these threats quickly. I know part of it is, everyone is vigilant right now because Uvalde. I hope these efforts don't wane.
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Did they figure out why the guard wasn't there yet? First he was there and exchanged fire with the shooter, then he was there and talked with the shooter, but didn't exchange fire, then wasn't there at all. This needs to cleared up.
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It’s not just fire though that is a huge issue. Other types of natural disasters and emergencies can occur. Also the entry issues for those in need when let’s say someone is having a heart attack.
Another issue is escape when there is danger such as a broken gas line or chemical release.
The whole lock the doors or reduce the amount of exits shows a laughable lack of understanding.
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Canada introduces law to freeze handgun sales, ban look-alike toys
OTTAWA, May 30 (Reuters) - Canada's government introduced legislation Monday to implement a "national freeze" on the sale and purchase of handguns as part of a gun control package that would also limit magazine capacities and ban some toys that look like guns.
The new legislation, which resurrects some measures that were shelved last year amid a national election, comes just a week after a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers in their classroom in Uvalde, Texas.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told reporters the new measures were needed as gun violence was increasing.
"We need only look south of the border to know that if we do not take action firmly and rapidly it gets worse and worse and gets more difficult to counter," he said.
The handgun freeze would contain exceptions, including for elite sport shooters, Olympic athletes and security guards. Canadians who already own handguns would be allowed to keep them.
Authorities do not expect a run on handguns in anticipation of the freeze, in part because they are so heavily regulated already, an official said in a briefing.
Canada has stronger gun legislation than the United States but while its gun homicide rate is less than one-fifth the U.S. rate it is higher than that of other rich countries and has been rising. In 2020 it was five times Australia's rate.
The rate in each of 2020 and 2017 was the country's highest since at least 1997, according to Statistics Canada.
Canada banned the sale and use of some 1,500 models of assault weapons, like the AR-15 rifle, two years ago in the wake of a mass shooting in Portapique, Nova Scotia - a move some firearms owners say they are contesting in court. Speaking alongside Trudeau, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino confirmed the "imminent launch of the initial phase" of a program to buy back and compensate owners of such weapons.
While the Liberals have a minority of seats in Parliament, the legislation could pass with the support of the left-leaning New Democratic Party.
The planned legislation would prevent anyone subject to a protection order or who has engaged in domestic violence or stalking from obtaining or keeping a firearms license.
It will also require long-gun magazines to be permanently altered so they can never hold more than five rounds and will ban the sale and transfer of large-capacity magazines.
The new laws would also ban some toys that look like real guns, such as airsoft rifles. Last week Toronto police shot and killed a man carrying a pellet gun. read more
"Because they look the same as real firearms, police need to treat them as if they are real. This has led to tragic consequences," Justice Minister David Lametti told reporters.
Tom Stamatakis, president of the Canadian Police Association, welcomed some of the moves, such as the "red flag" provisions in the case of domestic violence, and said he would like more information on enforcement and resources for measures such as the handgun freeze.
He completely supported a crackdown on fake guns, which he said were a "big challenge."
"You cannot distinguish between what's a replica firearm and what's a real firearm, particularly when these incidences involving replica firearms occur often in very dynamic, quickly evolving circumstances."
Rod Giltaca, the head of the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights, said the handgun freeze was "absurd."
He said authorities were not using the tools they already had to tackle gun violence, such as calling people listed as references on gun license applications.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...ng-handguns-2022-05-30/?utm_source=reddit.com
OTTAWA, May 30 (Reuters) - Canada's government introduced legislation Monday to implement a "national freeze" on the sale and purchase of handguns as part of a gun control package that would also limit magazine capacities and ban some toys that look like guns.
The new legislation, which resurrects some measures that were shelved last year amid a national election, comes just a week after a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers in their classroom in Uvalde, Texas.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told reporters the new measures were needed as gun violence was increasing.
"We need only look south of the border to know that if we do not take action firmly and rapidly it gets worse and worse and gets more difficult to counter," he said.
The handgun freeze would contain exceptions, including for elite sport shooters, Olympic athletes and security guards. Canadians who already own handguns would be allowed to keep them.
Authorities do not expect a run on handguns in anticipation of the freeze, in part because they are so heavily regulated already, an official said in a briefing.
Canada has stronger gun legislation than the United States but while its gun homicide rate is less than one-fifth the U.S. rate it is higher than that of other rich countries and has been rising. In 2020 it was five times Australia's rate.
The rate in each of 2020 and 2017 was the country's highest since at least 1997, according to Statistics Canada.
Canada banned the sale and use of some 1,500 models of assault weapons, like the AR-15 rifle, two years ago in the wake of a mass shooting in Portapique, Nova Scotia - a move some firearms owners say they are contesting in court. Speaking alongside Trudeau, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino confirmed the "imminent launch of the initial phase" of a program to buy back and compensate owners of such weapons.
While the Liberals have a minority of seats in Parliament, the legislation could pass with the support of the left-leaning New Democratic Party.
The planned legislation would prevent anyone subject to a protection order or who has engaged in domestic violence or stalking from obtaining or keeping a firearms license.
It will also require long-gun magazines to be permanently altered so they can never hold more than five rounds and will ban the sale and transfer of large-capacity magazines.
The new laws would also ban some toys that look like real guns, such as airsoft rifles. Last week Toronto police shot and killed a man carrying a pellet gun. read more
"Because they look the same as real firearms, police need to treat them as if they are real. This has led to tragic consequences," Justice Minister David Lametti told reporters.
Tom Stamatakis, president of the Canadian Police Association, welcomed some of the moves, such as the "red flag" provisions in the case of domestic violence, and said he would like more information on enforcement and resources for measures such as the handgun freeze.
He completely supported a crackdown on fake guns, which he said were a "big challenge."
"You cannot distinguish between what's a replica firearm and what's a real firearm, particularly when these incidences involving replica firearms occur often in very dynamic, quickly evolving circumstances."
Rod Giltaca, the head of the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights, said the handgun freeze was "absurd."
He said authorities were not using the tools they already had to tackle gun violence, such as calling people listed as references on gun license applications.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...ng-handguns-2022-05-30/?utm_source=reddit.com
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They are trying? Wow. What a concept
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Yep, I'm with you on the politicians and police. We've all agreed on here that reducing the numbers of doors is stupid. I don't believe reducing the number of doors is a goal for anybody. I think what they mean is reducing the number of entrances...
A woman in Virginia just took out a guy who was firing an AR15 into a crowd this week. She did it by herself, with her pistol.
How many lives were saved? Because an untrained woman was more of a warrior than our police. Those police are scumbags.
We need to reform our police in this country. We need to reform our judicial system in this country.
Any cop who admits they aren't willing to risk their life to save a kid should be moved to a different field.
Any cop who pulls a stunt like these assholes just pulled and and a kid dies should be put in jail.
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How many would have been saved if he didn’t have a gun?
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Only because Dems let that stop them...
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Good question. How soon do you think we can make that happen?
Let's not forget, the CDC has said there are at least 500,000 defensive gun uses per year in America.
How many lives would be lost without guns for self defense?
But let's go down the "no guns" rabbit hole. How do we get there? How long does it take?
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None of this reasoning makes any sense. Nobody is advocating for reducing the number of exits as far as I have seen, nor would it be allowed under code.
Making this a rallying cry of some kind just looks like playing politics.
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It sounds like we'll never find out unless it's on video. That police force is corrupt to the max.
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Which is exactly why nobody is suggesting it.
*Edit* I've been looking and can't find a direct quote of anybody recommending we remove or reduce the number of emergency exits.
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Depends how serious they are.
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How serious should they be? How would the logistics work?
How does the federal government get over 30 states who want gun rights, to enforce federal gun bans when the feds can't get a few states to support their Marijuana ban?
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It's our generations responsibility to make sure future generations don't face these issues...doesn't matter how long it takes just like tackling global warming...it starts with us enacting more sensible laws. Pot has become legal in my lifetime...I'd have never in a thousand years thought that would ever happen....it did. Same with gun laws...it's happened in your lifetime...just not here yet.
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I don't think so. I think it starts with us enacting better policies. Same as the solution to climate change.
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I'm advocating for better policies....we just disagree on the "better" part.
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Well, you advocated for better laws. That's not the same as better policies.
We don't need to punish people to make them murder less.
We don't need to punish people to make them polute less.
We need to change the incentives so that people don't want to polute or kill people in the first place.
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Well you have already said reducing exits and entryways is not the way to go on a different post.
Got to give you credit for that.
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Ted Cruz is the biggest one but I think since he got roasted for it he retracted the comment or tweet or email? Whatever it was on?
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I saw him say to use 1 entrance and exit, with security. Nothing about removing emergency exits.
In which case you would make using emergency exits in emergencies fine, but let kids know not to use them as exits unnecessarily. Alarm them.
Now the only way in is through the single entrance.
I don't see the problem...
*Edit* I absolutely hate Ted Cruz, so I'd love to blast him about this if he said it.
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I think one entrance is ideal. And all schools should be set up that way.
But no restriction on emergency exits. That's not necessary or smart.
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It's definitely good to be vigilant right now. What with copy cats and all...
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Gun in Texas Shooting Came From Company Known for Pushing Boundaries
After one of its military-style rifles was used in the Texas elementary school shooting on Tuesday, the gun manufacturer Daniel Defense published a pop-up statement on its home page sending “thoughts and prayers” to the community of Uvalde, Texas, and pledging to cooperate with the authorities.
When the pop-up disappeared, a different message took center stage: a promotion, adorned with gold-encased bullets, for a sweepstakes to win $15,000 worth of guns or ammunition.
The Texas shooting, which left 19 schoolchildren and two teachers dead and more than a dozen wounded, has put a national spotlight on Daniel Defense, a family-owned business in Georgia that has emerged as a trailblazer in an aggressive, boundary-pushing style of weapons marketing and sales.
Some of its advertisements invoke popular video games like “Call of Duty” and feature “Star Wars” characters and Santa Claus, messages that are likely to appeal to teenagers. The company was an early adopter of a direct-to-consumer business model that aimed to make buying military gear as simple as ordering from Amazon, enticing customers with “adventure now, pay later” installment plans that make expensive weaponry more affordable.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/business/daniel-defense-rifle-texas-shooting-gun.html
After one of its military-style rifles was used in the Texas elementary school shooting on Tuesday, the gun manufacturer Daniel Defense published a pop-up statement on its home page sending “thoughts and prayers” to the community of Uvalde, Texas, and pledging to cooperate with the authorities.
When the pop-up disappeared, a different message took center stage: a promotion, adorned with gold-encased bullets, for a sweepstakes to win $15,000 worth of guns or ammunition.
The Texas shooting, which left 19 schoolchildren and two teachers dead and more than a dozen wounded, has put a national spotlight on Daniel Defense, a family-owned business in Georgia that has emerged as a trailblazer in an aggressive, boundary-pushing style of weapons marketing and sales.
Some of its advertisements invoke popular video games like “Call of Duty” and feature “Star Wars” characters and Santa Claus, messages that are likely to appeal to teenagers. The company was an early adopter of a direct-to-consumer business model that aimed to make buying military gear as simple as ordering from Amazon, enticing customers with “adventure now, pay later” installment plans that make expensive weaponry more affordable.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/business/daniel-defense-rifle-texas-shooting-gun.html
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"Kill now, pay later!"
Again, it was too fucking easy for a high school dropout working part-time at Wendy's to buy that much pain & death that easily.
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And the company’s founder and chief executive, Marty Daniel, has fashioned himself as a provocateur who ridicules gun control proposals and uses publicity stunts to drum up sales.
Daniel Defense is at the forefront of an industry that has grown increasingly aggressive in recent years as it tries to expand beyond its aging, mostly white customer base and resists the calls for stronger regulation that seem to intensify after every mass shooting.
“Daniel Defense is basically the poster child of this egregious, aggressive marketing,” said Ryan Busse, a former executive at the gun company Kimber who is now an industry critic. “Marty Daniel burst in the door, a lot louder and more brazen than other gun makers, much like Donald Trump did on the political scene.”
He added, “Through this company, you are telling the story of how the gun industry has become increasingly radicalized.”
Daniel Defense’s strategy seems to have been effective. Its sales have soared, in part because of its successful targeting of young customers like Salvador Ramos, the gunman in Texas. Mr. Ramos, whom the authorities killed on Tuesday, was a “Call of Duty” video game enthusiast and appears to have bought his assault rifle directly from Daniel Defense, less than a week after turning 18.
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I agree. Just hoping that the vigilance sticks around and isn't just a in the moment thing.
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Assault Weapons Ban
So, all AR and AK rifles stayed on the streets. None were turned in.
The parts that were banned were the flash suppressor, the bayonet lug, and a telescoping stock.
So they stopped including those parts and continued selling the AR15 by the hundreds of thousands, DURING THE BAN.
Here is a picture of an the AR15 for sale before the assault weapons ban, over a picture of an AR15 for sale DURING the ban.
Same ammo, same firing rate, same caliber. Magazine loaded, everything was the same except those cosmetic changes.
There were more AR15 and AK47 rifles on the streets during the assault weapons ban than before it.
What actually happened was people got pissed off about the ban and the toxic gun culture we see today was born. Then demand for these guns increased so that by 2007 sales had tripled...
So, all AR and AK rifles stayed on the streets. None were turned in.
The parts that were banned were the flash suppressor, the bayonet lug, and a telescoping stock.
So they stopped including those parts and continued selling the AR15 by the hundreds of thousands, DURING THE BAN.
Here is a picture of an the AR15 for sale before the assault weapons ban, over a picture of an AR15 for sale DURING the ban.
Same ammo, same firing rate, same caliber. Magazine loaded, everything was the same except those cosmetic changes.
There were more AR15 and AK47 rifles on the streets during the assault weapons ban than before it.
What actually happened was people got pissed off about the ban and the toxic gun culture we see today was born. Then demand for these guns increased so that by 2007 sales had tripled...
