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Kids getting mowed down hey sworders lololol. People are so desensitized it’s sadder than fuck
 
calvin natt said:
Kids getting mowed down hey sworders lololol. People are so desensitized it’s sadder than fuck
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you continually mistake desensitized with logical thought that getting upset over something like this does no one, including ones self, any good.
Dont mistake desensitized with people who have control of their emotions…
 
Orion Bailey said:
you continually mistake desensitized with logical thought that getting upset over something like this does no one, including ones self, any good.
Dont mistake desensitized with people who have control of their emotions…
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Right. Nobody should be upset about the three kids who were shot at school. Got it.
 
calvin natt said:
Right. Nobody should be upset about the three kids who were shot at school. Got it.
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Noooo that isn't what i said.
Lots of people should. From the school admin, to the parents of the victims and culprit and everyone else ACTUALLY involved in the incident.
Just because some people don't let headlines from across the country we have no control over, affect our emotions the way you want(red anger) doesn't mean people don't care.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Noooo that isn't what i said.
Lots of people should. From the school admin, to the parents of the victims and culprit and everyone else ACTUALLY involved in the incident.
Just because some people don't let headlines from across the country we have no control over, affect our emotions the way you want(red anger) doesn't mean people don't care.
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That’s not how things change or get better. If only those immediately involved get to care. Everyone has to care. Everyone has to be angry. And hope enough people care to change things. People need to be the opposite of what you think. People need to sit in their homes in Oregon and imagine that was their kid, their school. Instead of brushing it off because it doesn’t effect them.
 
calvin natt said:
Ok I read a little about that. Don’t understand what it means in relation to school shooters but I’ll take your word for it
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To address our very poor gini coefficient we'd need to get people better access to healthcare, education, and improve the social safety net.

Doing so would reduce violent crime and murder rates far more than any gun laws ever could at a far lower price. And with obvious benefits to society.

The access to guns does not mean gun crime and rates of violence are high. Switzerland has mandatory military service for men.

All men between the ages of 18 and 34 deemed "fit for service" are given a pistol or a rifle and trained. And they haven't had a mass shooting for 18 years...
 
calvin natt said:
That’s not how things change or get better. If only those immediately involved get to care. Everyone has to care. Everyone has to be angry. And hope enough people care to change things. People need to be the opposite of what you think. People need to sit in their homes in Oregon and imagine that was their kid, their school. Instead of brushing it off because it doesn’t effect them.
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So how exactly does your anger help to stop something like this? Please explain how it does work then?
People don't have to feel anger to understand there is a serious issue and want ro do something about it.
 
calvin natt said:
That’s not how things change or get better. If only those immediately involved get to care. Everyone has to care. Everyone has to be angry. And hope enough people care to change things. People need to be the opposite of what you think. People need to sit in their homes in Oregon and imagine that was their kid, their school. Instead of brushing it off because it doesn’t effect them.
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Just so you know my stepdaughter is working on her doctorate in school administration while being an assistant administrator at a PPS middle school. Seeing the video of the students in the classroom and the gunman trying to get inside I did talk to her about it. It's one of the brand new schools that opened and while it's innercity and rough she gets to help in a sense help build it from the ground up. We discussed code phrases for school shootings and code phrases for the all-clear signal. And a few other safety-related things.

Just because someone doesn't respond how you want them to in a basketball forum doesn't mean they are uncaring about what happened.

Personally, I reached out to a family member who could be in the direct line of fire in an incidence like that. I think that is the appropriate response.

I apologize if my sword joke to el prez upset you.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Good point. It would certainly be satisfying to see them suffer.
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Shoot them in the back of the head execution style. Show the bloody lifeless body on TV and see how "encouraging" it is for future shooters.
 
Phatguysrule said:
To address our very poor gini coefficient we'd need to get people better access to healthcare, education, and improve the social safety net.

Doing so would reduce violent crime and murder rates far more than any gun laws ever could at a far lower price. And with obvious benefits to society.

The access to guns does not mean gun crime and rates of violence are high. Switzerland has mandatory military service for men.

All men between the ages of 18 and 34 deemed "fit for service" are given a pistol or a rifle and trained. And they haven't had a mass shooting for 18 years...
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Ok great but todays school shooting. How does that make a difference
 
Orion Bailey said:
So how exactly does your anger help to stop something like this? Please explain how it does work then?
People don't have to feel anger to understand there is a serious issue and want ro do something about it.
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When people are angry about kids being shot in math class they speak up, vote differently, demand more from schools, and police, social media outlets, etc. People were angry about a lot of things and made a difference. Race, voting rights, etc. Playing some kind of role where you aren’t angry and Mr Cool is a weird stance but not surprising. I’m not sure how any sane person isn’t angry about these shootings but you be you.
 
calvin natt said:
Ok great but todays school shooting. How does that make a difference
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Increased access to education and healthcare, less income disparity, makes guys like this less desperate, less envious. Less likely to be put into position to snap.

And if he does start showing signs then access to healthcare (mental health) makes him more likely to be noticed and treated before getting to this point...
 
calvin natt said:
When people are angry about kids being shot in math class they speak up, vote differently, demand more from schools, and police, social media outlets, etc. People were angry about a lot of things and made a difference. Race, voting rights, etc. Playing some kind of role where you aren’t angry and Mr Cool is a weird stance but not surprising. I’m not sure how any sane person isn’t angry about these shootings but you be you.
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because were sane?????
Why you must try to demean anyone who doesn't think like you is just ridiculous.
Someone made a joke about a sword and you claim they dont care????

not everyone has to express their emotions like you in order to care and want to do something about it.

but here we go again. Weeks sgo it was you werent angry. Then it was just this one thing should be eye for an eye. Now this.

you are one angry person and to demand everyone be like you is insane. And thats why it makes no sense to you. Because you seem to be red with anger and cant see anything else.
Its either let emotions run wild like you or we don't care, when there is a bunch of stuff in between….

But keep up with the ridiculing comments. It really makes me wanna be like you….
 
Orion Bailey said:
because were sane?????
Why you must try to demean anyone who doesn't think like you is just ridiculous.
Someone made a joke about a sword and you claim they dont care????

not everyone has to express their emotions like you in order to care and want to do something about it.

but here we go again. Weeks sgo it was you werent angry. Then it was just this one thing should be eye for an eye. Now this.

you are one angry person and to demand everyone be like you is insane. And thats why it makes no sense to you. Because you seem to be red with anger and cant see anything else.
Its either let emotions run wild like you or we don't care, when there is a bunch of stuff in between….

But keep up with the ridiculing comments. It really makes me wanna be like you….
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I said people were desensitized because four posts into a school shooting thread with three dead kids we had a joke. But go on.
 
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