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Chris Craig said:
No, it's going to worsen an already bad problem. Scores of people getting guns with no background checks.
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We already know who the bad people are. Just need to mark their ID card when they are given the designation (and added to the database) and when they renew.

Problem solved (as well as possible) in 2 years with minimal pushback.

Getting the 33 states on board for background checks who aren't already will take 50 years, if it ever happens at all.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
Step 1: Set a technological limit on what a gun and ammo are and aren't.
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I would start with some obvious basics.

A gun must have a physical trigger.

A gun must not be remotely operated. (ie: drones, smartphones, etc.)

A gun must fire a projectile.

A gun must be aimed manually.
 
Phatguysrule said:
We already know who the bad people are. Just need to mark their ID card when they are given the designation (and added to the database) and when they renew.

Problem solved in 2 years with minimal pushback.

Getting the 33 states on board for background checks who aren't already will take 50 years, if it ever happens at all.
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But, that's not happening. What's happening is a gun free for all. There is going to be a huge uptick in shootings in these states.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I would start with some obvious basics.

A gun must have a physical trigger.

A gun must not be remotely operated. (ie: drones, smartphones, etc.)

A gun must fire a projectile.

A gun must be aimed manually.
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So a penis is a gun?
 
Chris Craig said:
So a penis is a gun?
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Chris Craig said:
But, that's not happening. What's happening is a gun free for all. There is going to be a huge uptick in shootings in these states.
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Possibly. But violent crime or murder rates will not change.

We're having the wrong conversation if we want to save and improve lives.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
I would start with some obvious basics.

A gun must have a physical trigger.

A gun must not be remotely operated. (ie: drones, smartphones, etc.)

A gun must fire a projectile.

A gun must be aimed manually.
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Those are a good start because we already have many options available that bypass these basic functions and it’s going to be commonplace very soon.
Think about robotics being very active soon as well.
 
"This is not a gun..."

"You can make shots that were physically impossible..."

"You can make shots without looking..."

 
Feds: Salem man had ‘ghost gun’ workshop in basement

SALEM, Ore. (KOIN) — A Salem man was indicted by a federal grand jury on multiple gun and drug charges.

Tyler Ray Harnden, 29, was charged with several felony counts, including possessing with intent to distribute fentanyl and heroin, distribution of fentanyl, possessing a firearm in furtherance of a drug trafficking crime and illegally possessing a firearm as a convicted felon.

If convicted, Harnden faces a life sentence in federal prison.

After successfully gaining a warrant into Harnden’s home in south Salem on Feb. 16, investigators discovered a large ghost gun manufacturing operation, containing dozens of firearms in various stages of completion — the homemade guns are called ghost guns because they don’t have a manufacturer serial number, which makes then untraceable.

Investigators captured a pair of pistols, three completed ghost guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition, 15 loaded high-capacity magazines, three drill presses and other firearm equipment, as well as 200 counterfeit oxycodone pills that contained fentanyl.

Following Harnden’s arrest, investigators also found evidence that he had allegedly being paying people to run illegal straw purchases of firearms for him. Additionally, Harnden was supplying individuals suffering from addiction with counterfeit oxycodone in exchange for firearms purchases.

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Investigators also learned that Harnden was storing firearms at a family member’s house, and was trying to get the relative to sell the weapons for him. Agents from Salem police and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Explosives, served a warrant at the family member’s house on March 15, where they seized four gun safes and over 60 firearms, all belonging to Harnden.

Harnden is in state custody on a supervised release violation and will be arraigned on his indictment at a later date according to Salem police.
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Phatguysrule said:
Regardless of if it's funny or not, it is going to happen.
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Glad the SoB was arrested. Let's say there were no drugs involved and he received a life sentence. Do you think that would be appropriate?
 
Shaboid said:
Glad the SoB was arrested. Let's say there were no drugs involved and he received a life sentence. Do you think that would be appropriate?
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Sure, he's likely selling guns to felons and other dangerous criminals. I'm not in favor of that.

Those people should have their ID marked, IMO, and he should be checking that before giving them access to Firearms.
 
But as long as we don’t take away his “rights”……. What about the people he murdered rights, sadly they no longer have any.
 
THE HCP said:
I’m sure the above story was self defense.
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No, these things happen. Just not very often. In the US we're more likely to be killed by police than in a mass shooting.

And if you're not in a gang your odds of being shot drop substantially.
 
Over by Oak Grove just last week my daughter's best friend's Aunt had a huge dude break into her house.

She was sitting on her bed with a gun when he came through her bedroom door. He immediately dropped what he had, put his hands up, and ran off.

You won't see this on the news, but according to the CDC, (depending on how the question is asked) there are between 60,000 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses each year in the US.

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevent...ies for Research,defensive gun uses each year.
 
THE HCP said:
Save your gun love for somebody else bro…..I’ve seen people murdered. Wasting your time replying to me with anything gun related.
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No problem. If you don't make false implications I will not have to set the record straight.
 
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