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Chris Craig said:
Yes Steve,

They will continue to block said bills because they cherish power and control over the lives of children.
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Any bill passed would just be overturned by the Supreme Court as violating the 2nd ammendment. And that will be the case for the foreseeable future.

There will be no drastic increases on gun control, probably in our lifetimes.
 
ehizzy3 said:
Nobody should own an Ar-15. I’m sorry but you can’t tell me nothing

rip to the sweet innocent children and teachers
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These killings appear to have happened with a hand gun. Which is illegal for 18 year olds to own or carry in Texas.
 
Phatguysrule said:
These killings appear to have happened with a hand gun. Which is illegal for 18 year olds to own or carry in Texas.
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The best path would be to drastically increase penalties for illegal gun possession.

Then ensure that gun owners are registered and undergo training and regular mental assessments.
 
280 students killed in school in US this year so far. 8 in Mexico, 2 in Canada.
 
Can we work around the 2A by just banning ammunition. Have your arms, as many as you want. Just can't do shit with then. I don't see ammunition spelled out in there.
 
Shooter has Michael Jackson vibes

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
The best path would be to drastically increase penalties for illegal gun possession.

Then ensure that gun owners are registered and undergo training and regular mental assessments.
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I'm all for strictly punishing violent criminals, and have even proposed it. As well as very strict penalties for those who supply guns to people who should not have them.

I have also proposed tax credits for attending training, to ensure the most people possible have access to training and incentive to keep it up.

Mandatory Registration will never happen. That violates the 2nd ammendment. You don't have to register for any other right, so the Supreme Court will strike down anything that requires registration of all firearms.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I'm all for strictly punishing violent criminals, and have even proposed it. As well as very strict penalties for those who supply guns to people who should not have them.

I have also proposed tax credits for attending training, to ensure the most people possible have access to training and incentive to keep it up.

Mandatory Registration will never happen. That violates the 2nd ammendment. You don't have to register for any other right, so the Supreme Court will strike down anything that requires registration of all firearms.
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Then the easiest path is to crack down hard on illegal guns. Long jail sentences (mandatory minimums), huge debilitating fines, etc. Set up task forces.
 
Any mass shooter should get an automatic death penalty. And it should be carried out within 12 months with no chance for appeals.
 
RR7 said:
Can we work around the 2A by just banning ammunition. Have your arms, as many as you want. Just can't do shit with then. I don't see ammunition spelled out in there.
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Sure but the drug dealers and cartels would happily use their distribution networks to supply ammunition.

Actually, that would be fascinating to watch, illegals would suddenly be welcome.
 
Death toll in Texas elementary school shooting rises to EIGHTEEN students as teacher, 44, is first confirmed victim and it's revealed that CBP agent rushed to school without backup and shot barricaded gunman, 18, dead
  • Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, confirmed on Tuesday afternoon that 14 students and one teacher were killed in the shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde: the death toll was later increased to 18 children
  • Abbott said that the gunman was 18-year-old Salvador Roma - but the name was later clarified as Salvador Ramos
  • The teacher he murdered was named by her family as Eva Mireles, a fourth grade teacher, involved in education for 17 years and married to a police officer who trained schools in active shooter drills
  • Ramos, who was born in North Dakota and lived in Uvalde, was shot and killed during the shooting at Robb Elementary School: he is believed to have been killed by law enforcement officers
  • Ramos shot his grandmother before heading to the school, and was in a shootout with border patrol agents - one of whom was injured - before barricading himself inside the school buildings
  • He posted photos of his guns on Instagram and, shortly before the shooting, he messaged a girl he vaguely knew hinting that he was planning an attack
  • Ramos tagged her in a photo of his guns, and wrote: 'I got lil secret. I wanna tell you. Be grateful I tagged you.' She replied: 'No it's just scary' and said: 'I barely know you and you tag me in a picture with some guns'
  • Uvalde Memorial Hospital confirmed that two children were brought in dead on arrival and that they were treating many more
  • The district said that the city's civic center will be used as a reunification center and that parents will be able to pick up their children there
  • Joe Biden, who was flying home from Japan at the time, addressed the nation from the Roosevelt Room of the White House at 8:45pm, saying: 'I was hoping when I became president that I wouldn't have to do this again'
  • He said: 'To lose a child, you feel like a piece of your soul has been taken away,' adding that he was 'sick and tired of it'. He said: 'As a nation, we have to ask: when in God's name will we stand up to the gun lobby?'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...lementary-school-campus-plunged-lockdown.html
 
RR7 said:
Can we work around the 2A by just banning ammunition. Have your arms, as many as you want. Just can't do shit with then. I don't see ammunition spelled out in there.
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I think ammunition would fall under arms. And I think our current Supreme Court would agree.

It seems pretty clear to me that the founding fathers intended the population to be a well regulated militia (meaning capable non-regular infantry).

So the idea of the 2nd ammendment was to encourage the people own and practice with weapons equivalent to that of your average infantry soldier.

This would include military caliber rifles as well as handguns and the ammunition which makes them capable as arms.

I believe the current Supreme Court would likely rule pretty close to that.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Sure but the drug dealers and cartels would happily use their distribution networks to supply ammunition.

Actually, that would be fascinating to watch, illegals would suddenly be welcome.
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Immigrants are murders and rapi....wait you say they are bringing guns? Welcome!
 
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Phatguysrule said:
I think ammunition would fall under arms. And I think our current Supreme Court would agree.

It seems pretty clear to me that the founding fathers intended the population to be a well regulated militia (meaning capable non-regular infantry).

So the idea of the 2nd ammendment was to encourage the people own and practice with weapons equivalent to that of your average infantry soldier.

This would include military caliber rifles as well as handguns and the ammunition which makes them capable as arms.

I believe the current Supreme Court would likely rule pretty close to that.
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Because the people were the military back then.
 
Shooter's mother may have worked as a teacher at the school, unconfirmed.
 
Chris Craig said:
Because the people were the military back then.
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I don't think so. I think it's because they wanted the people to be as powerful as any military. So they would be a formidable force against any threat, foreign or domestic.
 
Chris Craig said:
Because the people were the military back then.
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We have the National Guard, I consider that a well regulated militia. That's as far as I think it needed to go, but alas, none of us were the framers.
 
BTW, Twitter is actively deleting these posts.

As they should.

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