Yeah, we should definitely have well trained staff at schools placing a high priority on the mental well being of students. Including class structure, schedules, personal issues, etc.
It is never going to end. We aren't serious about solving it.
I am serious about it, and have attempted many conversations about exactly that. You're more interested in taking the antivaxxer approach. Which, I guess can be considered serious, but it's not logical or data driven. Rather, it's driven by emotion and misinformation.
“Anti-Vaxxer” Hmmm. That’s a new one?
Nothing to substantiate your position? Shocking.
What exactly is that other than I told you to speak for yourself when you say “We aren’t serious”.
But the numbers support those solutions far more than the numbers support gun control. Those solutions would be better for more people.
Excellent. So now that we're having a serious conversation, can you please show me the data that shows increasing gun control actually reduces violent crime and murder rates a statistically significant amount?
Maybe we aren’t able to really ever implement meaningful gun control, because gun lovers flip the fuck out. Every measure is half ass. So it’s not nearly as effective as it could be or we would hope it to be. So sure, gun control efforts maybe aren’t yielding amazing results. It’s like we reduced the speed limit from 120 to 95. And everyone is like “see! People are still flying off the freeways and dying”.
I'll take before and after numbers on violent crime and murder rates from anywhere in the world.
I updated my post, which covered Australia and why it's tough to put much weight in their drops. Sorry, I accidently hit POST too soon.
So you say "We aren't Serious"
"We should do the thing I want to do, and then in 20-30 years we can evaluate to determine if the thing I want to do made sense."
It’s a suggestion. My wife handles suggestions pretty well. It’s when I try telling her how it’s gonna be that doesn’t work well."We should do the thing I want to do, and then in 20-30 years we can evaluate to determine if the thing I want to do made sense."
Try that with your wife and see how well it goes over.
Are the stats you're referencing applicable to mass killings, or only overall violent crimes? Because that is the specific thing that seems to be getting the most attention and concern in the US. I know it seems counterintuitive to focus only on one aspect of violent crime, but that one aspect seems to be the one generating the majority of the fear in this country.
I answered this question above.
You are suggesting one thing that we haven't done. It's not as though it's the only thing we haven't done. PGR has suggested other things we haven't done, but you conveniently ignore those.
"We should do the thing I want to do, and then in 20-30 years we can evaluate to determine if the thing I want to do made sense."
Try that with your wife and see how well it goes over.
Add a zero to the end of those numbers and your post remains accurate. I'm not arguing for the status quo.
So you want to push your agenda which data shows doesn't work.
We don't allow that. But what we have done has been as effective as countries who have instituted sweeping gun control, and in fact, far more effective than some.