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Everything Beagle said:
Something, not coincidentally, that was literally said out loud by a presenter at CPAC last month.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_stages_of_genocide

Depending on which state you live in, trans people are at just before stage 7 or just before stage 8.
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They are hoping that if they stop kids from being trans (which they can't) that it will in turn stop trans people from existing.

Yeah, it looks like we are about at 6. Scary shit. I can't even imagine how scary for the trans community. But, I stand with you.
 
Chris Craig said:
They are hoping that if they stop kids from being trans (which they can't) that it will in turn stop trans people from existing.

Yeah, it looks like we are about at 6. Scary shit. I can't even imagine how scary for the trans community. But, I stand with you.
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Florida is further along, Tennessee too, and Texas. Other states want to be further along. And if DeSantis is elected, or hell even if he isn’t and the republicans get a majority of both houses, trans people are going to be fucked properly.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Florida is further along, Tennessee too, and Texas. Other states want to be further along. And if DeSantis is elected, or hell even if he isn’t and the republicans get a majority of both houses, trans people are going to be fucked properly.
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Yeah, other red states are following in Florida's footsteps. Yeah, if he gets elected president or if the republicans get back control they will do their best to outlaw the LGBTQ community on a national level.

It's hard to imagine so many years worth of progress evaporating so quickly.
 
Just watching the latest shooting video with police walking through the school clearing one room at a time.

I had a random thought.

What if all schools had cameras that were able to be quickly signed into by police so they could track the shooter?

Seems like a very helpful tool that could be fairly cheap to initiate. The better the camera system the better it would work. Voice or light commands could possibly lead kids away from the threat.


Just a thought.
 
rotary111 said:
Just watching the latest shooting video with police walking through the school clearing one room at a time.

I had a random thought.

What if all schools had cameras that were able to be quickly signed into by police so they could track the shooter?

Seems like a very helpful tool that could be fairly cheap to initiate. The better the camera system the better it would work. Voice or light commands could possibly lead kids away from the threat.


Just a thought.
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Cameras are cheap. No doubt about it. There should be a camera inside and outside of every door.

Every ground level room should have an exit outdoors. Or at least away from the main entrance.

All ground level windows should be thick polycarbonate (it's bullet proof).

All doors closed and locked from outside.

Every room should have a heat pump to remove incentive to open windows and doors.
 
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The killer was undergoing regular therapy for weeks leading up to this shooting but hiding weapons and ammo and buying more during the therapy....treating mental illness didn't stop her from legally purchasing 7 weapons even while clinically diagnosed with depression. In this case where medical attention was ongoing...access to weapons was too easy and the result was 6 innocent deaths and suicide by cop. Only way to prevent this tragedy is to eliminate the obvious. Keep the weapons away from the emotionally disturbed patient..
 
riverman said:
The killer was undergoing regular therapy for weeks leading up to this shooting but hiding weapons and ammo and buying more during the therapy....treating mental illness didn't stop her from legally purchasing 7 weapons even while clinically diagnosed with depression. In this case where medical attention was ongoing...access to weapons was too easy and the result was 6 innocent deaths and suicide by cop. Only way to prevent this tragedy is to eliminate the obvious. Keep the weapons away from the emotionally disturbed patient..
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Treating mental illness during an episode isn't where you get the most gains. You get the gains by preventing the mental illness in the first place, or treating it young.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Treating mental illness during an episode isn't where you get the most gains. You get the gains by preventing the mental illness in the first place, or treating it young.
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clearly a failure in this case on both counts...the legal access to weapons and ammo didn't provide any gains, that's for sure.
 
riverman said:
clearly a failure in this case on both counts...the legal access to weapons and ammo didn't provide any gains, that's for sure.
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this is one of those points I was mentioning where, because conservatives operate under the assumption that all trans people are mentally ill, that it is a mental illness, they can do something like really enshrine “no guns for the mentally ill” into law and then just selectively enforce it against their political enemies. How could a trans person fight that?
 
Everything Beagle said:
this is one of those points I was mentioning where, because conservatives operate under the assumption that all trans people are mentally ill, that it is a mental illness, they can do something like really enshrine “no guns for the mentally ill” into law and then just selectively enforce it against their political enemies. How could a trans person fight that?
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In a civil society being transgendered and suffering from clinical depression should not be any different than any other person clinically diagnosed with mental illness...unfortunately being trans or gay or of any identity that threatens conservative right wing men has been weaponized by them to drag us back into some weird Republican apartheid. I'm sure fed up with it. I can't imagine what you have to deal with around your life but it breaks my heart humanity has devolved into the current political climate.
 
I guarantee the crime rate and all gun crime would plummet in this country if we had

- universal healthcare that includes mental health services

- minimum wage that covered minimum living expenses

- a culture that glamorized seeking care as much as we glamorize guns

- controls on large corporations, i.e. price gouging and efforts to destroy organized labor/collective bargaining

These things drastically reduce all crime more than anything else.

Far more than any gun control ever could.

In fact, no country has ever curbed gun crime or murder rates without improving in these areas.
 
The United States government has no interest in providing for the people who live in the United States. We are fuel to them, not humans. The social contract is all but dissolved. The police are a brute squad protecting corporate property only. Things will never be good again, and the people who live in the United States understand that.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I guarantee the crime rate and all gun crime would plummet in this country if we had

- universal healthcare that includes mental health services

- minimum wage that covered minimum living expenses

- a culture that glamorized seeking care as much as we glamorize guns

- controls on large corporations, i.e. price gouging and efforts to destroy organized labor/collective bargaining

These things drastically reduce all crime more than anything else.

Far more than any gun control ever could.

In fact, no country has ever curbed gun crime or murder rates without improving in these areas.
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Living wages, not minimum. The problem with minimum wage or a raise in these wages is an immediate and unchecked inflation and as you said price gouging at the hands of corporations and greedy mofos.
 
Chris Craig said:
Living wages, not minimum. The problem with minimum wage or a raise in these wages is an immediate and unchecked inflation and as you said price gouging at the hands of corporations and greedy mofos.
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Raising minimum wage helps the poor far more than it hurts anyone else though.

We've seen it in pockets all over the country. Sure, there were some price increases, but it wasn't bad untill COVID hit and all of the boomers started retiring, causing inflation worldwide...

But yes. Corporations are greedy mofos. By design.
 
Covenant School employee said staff members carried guns

A person hiding under a desk during the shooting at the Covenant School told the 911 dispatcher that one or two staff members carry guns.

At 10:12:05 a.m. Monday, a woman calling from the office of the nursery said, "We do have a school person, or two ... I'm not sure ... who would be packing, whose job it is for security. We don't have security guards, but we have staff."

She did not name who typically carried weapons, and it is not clear whether those staff members were at the school at the time of the shooting.

Six people were killed in the shooting Monday in Nashville. Police arrived within minutes and killed the shooter, a 28-year-old former student. Officials released two dozen 911 calls and recordings of emergency dispatches from the shooting on Thursday.

A recurring debate around school shootings is whether casualties could be lessened by arming teachers.

Police have not indicated that any employee at the Covenant School had a gun or fired at the shooter.

Fourteen minutes into the call, the woman under the desk began to pray. "Oh Lord in Jesus' name," she said. "Help the policemen do what they need to do."

https://www.tennessean.com/story/ne...-said-staff-members-carried-guns/70066418007/
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Covenant School employee said staff members carried guns

A person hiding under a desk during the shooting at the Covenant School told the 911 dispatcher that one or two staff members carry guns.

At 10:12:05 a.m. Monday, a woman calling from the office of the nursery said, "We do have a school person, or two ... I'm not sure ... who would be packing, whose job it is for security. We don't have security guards, but we have staff."

She did not name who typically carried weapons, and it is not clear whether those staff members were at the school at the time of the shooting.

Six people were killed in the shooting Monday in Nashville. Police arrived within minutes and killed the shooter, a 28-year-old former student. Officials released two dozen 911 calls and recordings of emergency dispatches from the shooting on Thursday.

A recurring debate around school shootings is whether casualties could be lessened by arming teachers.

Police have not indicated that any employee at the Covenant School had a gun or fired at the shooter.

Fourteen minutes into the call, the woman under the desk began to pray. "Oh Lord in Jesus' name," she said. "Help the policemen do what they need to do."

https://www.tennessean.com/story/ne...-said-staff-members-carried-guns/70066418007/
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This is a very interesting development.

If the teachers with guns were onsight during the shooting the school is libel.

If the teachers with guns were NOT onsight during the shooting the school is libel.
 
tlongII said:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/20...op-in-mass-shootings-what-the-data-shows.html

The above article seems to contradict the statements @Phatguysrule has made in the past. I could be wrong, but I thought I would post it.
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Thanks for posting.

It doesn't really contradict anything i've said. 7.2 to 5.2 is a pretty meaningless change, considering the general drop in violent crime over the entire time frame (starting before the ban, and continuing after the ban). You can change your definition of what a mass shooting is to flip those numbers around.

Using the later data simply shows an era where the media and social media have created a lot of copycats, and we've had deteriorating access to education and healthcare, and less money and opportunity than we had in the 90s. The 90s were pretty good for the middle class and poor in the US.
 
Fun fact decimal points are actually drawings of bullet holes specifically added to intimidate and remind numbers of their place.
 
Shaboid said:
https://www.kgw.com/amp/article/tra...RqV2qWM0tDZ2kykCwfptqMOvlPVxtMhnSR4gGLgn2YSpY

Holy smokes, I sat next to the witness at Easter brunch. So glad she's safe. Wtf is going on in this world? I was following the story a bit but I was slammed at work and they weren't releasing any info. First thing I see in my Instagram when I sit down at home is her account of what happened. Shit! That'd be terrifying!
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Holy fuck! That's crazy!

She needs to go to Spirit Mountain or buy some lottery tickets tonight.
 
Sigh
It’s just so common now, these things don’t even register anymore?
 
Louisville can’t even get one post on here. Maybe everybody is off sending thoughts and prayers.
 
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