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Well, Jesus, Himself, said.:

“Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword." He also said to love our neighbors as ourselves.
yes he did, in explaining his fulfillment of the covenant and that those that would follow his word would face opposition as he upset the apple cart that was the status quo, and he would to set the world on fire as the living Word.
not sure how loving our neighbor as oneself is different from loving one another?
 
yes he did, in explaining his fulfillment of the covenant and that those that would follow his word would face opposition as he upset the apple cart that was the status quo, and he would to set the world on fire as the living Word.
not sure how loving our neighbor as oneself is different from loving one another?
Well, Jesus, Himself, said.:

“Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword." He also said to love our neighbors as ourselves.
other than vanquishing the moneylenders from the temple of his Father, where else could one find Him condoning violence in the gospels of mark, luke, mathew or john?
 
other than vanquishing the moneylenders from the temple of his Father, where else could one find Him condoning violence in the gospels of mark, luke, mathew or john?

God/Jesus certainly doesn't condone violence. But, he absolutely condones justice. God is a just God.
 
God/Jesus certainly doesn't condone violence. But, he absolutely condones justice. God is a just God.
then the word christian denotes a follower of the teachings of Christ. the definition of a christian must follow as one who follows the teachings of the Lord. where does he speak of justice in the new testament except in relation to salvation? His words speak of a justice handed out to those who withhold it from others but in the coming of his kingdom not of this earth.
 
History is a shit storm of injustice...if God condone's justice...he has no influence at all...

If there is a God I think we are more like a science project he observes without influence or interference
 
This is a prophesy from the woman prophet who married my wife and I. It's from July, 2016 - prior to Trump being elected, but seems to have some very relevant connections to today. I certainly have some issues with Trump, but also believe some of his actions may be God-ordained....whether Trump is a believer, or not. Trump is certainly not a "diplomat", nor an appeaser. He is who he is, bulldozer personality, and all.

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The Course of a Nation

Thursday, July 26, 2016


As our country begins its ascent in turning a corner the Lord says, “I am allowing dross to surface so that the purity of a nation can once again come to the forefront in decision making.”

Remove the dross from the silver, and a silversmith can produce a vessel. Proverbs 25:4

A businessman on the outside of the American political system has been chosen to challenge the politics on the inside. A shaking is being allowed so that the parts that are of God can move forward and sustain.


At that time his voice shook the earth (storms and natural catastrophe’s thru the past few years), but now He has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens. The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe for our “God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12:26b-29

What the enemy intends for our harm, The Lord is using and will use for this Nation’s good. He will bring unity out of chaos, love out of brokenness, and victory from loss. He is the Lord God who uses the foolish things to confound the wise. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 1 Corinthians 1:27

God created all things. No weapon formed against the USA will be allowed to prosper as we refute the enemy. For it is written in Isaiah 54:16 & 17, “Behold, I have created the blacksmith who blows the coals in the fire, who brings forth an instrument for his work; And I have created the spoiler to destroy. No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and every tongue, which rises against you in judgment, you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord.”

How do we refute or condemn the enemy? If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

The USA is on a course. It is turning a corner. It will come into a strait-of-way where we will see mountains leveled and low places brought up so that the way in front of us is smoother with less stones blocking our path and hindering our footing.

Every valley shall be exalted And every mountain and hill brought low; The crooked places shall be made straight And the rough places smooth. I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them. Isaiah 40:4 & 42:16

In the future, things will be temporarily established to bring greater safety to our lives. The Spirit of God is speaking this to us in advance so we will not resist what is of The Lord, and not the enemy.

I heard the Lord say, “Measures for your earthly safety will manifest thru martial law but this is a step to bring order out of the chaos. Some of these steps are meant to be temporary in the fight against lawlessness and terrorism so you must pray for your leaders to be led of me when you see martial law and other rulings put in place for your protection.”

I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people – for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior. 1 Timothy 2:1-4


There is a raging battle in the heavens for the purposes of a strait-a-way on earth. If we submit our ways to Him, He will make our paths straight. (Proverbs 3:6)

Revival and Its Participants

Revival will come and it will prevail not only in the open, but also in every nook and cranny of the nations. The harvest approaches fullness. It is so close that if you look with the eyes of the Spirit, you can see it. Christ’s Disciples will rise up from all around the world and lead captives into the light. Those that are His are being summoned by name. (Isaiah 43:1)

The wealth of the wicked will transfer into the hands of the righteous where benefactors will rise up and support the work of the Harvest. What seems impossible in the natural will happen because God is choosing those that have been in the back to come to the forefront and publicly become a display for His splendor. We will witness this in every area of life …. The secular work places as well as in the work of ministry.

Do not look at each other and point this finger or that to disqualify one another, for your greatest strength in this coming season of building will be unity and love, not perfection of the flesh but perfection thru the blood. Jesus said we are either with Him or against. It is Godly to join forces with Godly minded men and women of Christ – as assigned by Christ.


Forgive; be gracious and kind to one another. Anger has set a course in the hearts of man as a tactic to destroy one another but the Lord has promised that LOVE would cover a multitude of sins. Bless, instead of curse. Pray instead of injure. Walk away when a person or a mission is no longer your assignment. You will know when to walk away or remain. The Holy Spirit will make it clear.

A time is coming and has now come when the true worshippers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. John 4:23 This is now.

Greater creativity will populate the earth such has never been seen. Darkness will do the same … a deep darkness will attempt to cover and blind the eyes of the multitudes, but for those who have humbled themselves and asked for The Lord’s help …. Help that cometh from on high, He will open their eyes and they will see and join forces with Him in the battle for the salvation of all. (Psalm 146:8) I look to the hills from whence cometh my help. My help comes from the Lord, Who made heaven and earth. Psalms 121:1-2

Our Lord and Savior is coming soon and the earth must be prepared. Things must take place before His return. It is all written in His Word and will make greater sense once Believers come into a better open space and the places we’re called as a part of our destinies. First, we’re called to return to our constitutional roots as One Nation under God pursuing justice and liberty for all.

One final Word in closing …. God is no respecter of persons. He will use our next president to strong-arm our Nation as well as other Nations. This is a strategy for putting the USA back into position for leadership while at the same time, protecting our country.
I'd like to clarify something: are you saying YOU think Trump's actions may be god-ordained?
 
then the word christian denotes a follower of the teachings of Christ. the definition of a christian must follow as one who follows the teachings of the Lord. where does he speak of justice in the new testament except in relation to salvation? His words speak of a justice handed out to those who withhold it from others but in the coming of his kingdom not of this earth.

I certainly respect and can appreciate the fact that you are bringing God's Word into these discussions. That said, I'm not quite certain what conclusions you're trying to draw here? I understand the scriptures on love. Shall our government leaders simply love on the perpetrators until they settle down and go away?
 
I think we're more like God's herpes....we're forever and only get his attention when we have a flare up

Or maybe we are just a fun show he is watching while eating popcorn, to see how fucked up we can make things here on Earth

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2 Corinthians 11:13-15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
Matthew 7:1
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
This is a prophesy from the woman prophet who married my wife and I. It's from July, 2016 - prior to Trump being elected, but seems to have some very relevant connections to today. I certainly have some issues with Trump, but also believe some of his actions may be God-ordained....whether Trump is a believer, or not. Trump is certainly not a "diplomat", nor an appeaser. He is who he is, bulldozer personality, and all.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Course of a Nation

Thursday, July 26, 2016


As our country begins its ascent in turning a corner the Lord says, “I am allowing dross to surface so that the purity of a nation can once again come to the forefront in decision making.”

Remove the dross from the silver, and a silversmith can produce a vessel. Proverbs 25:4

A businessman on the outside of the American political system has been chosen to challenge the politics on the inside. A shaking is being allowed so that the parts that are of God can move forward and sustain.


At that time his voice shook the earth (storms and natural catastrophe’s thru the past few years), but now He has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens. The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe for our “God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12:26b-29

What the enemy intends for our harm, The Lord is using and will use for this Nation’s good. He will bring unity out of chaos, love out of brokenness, and victory from loss. He is the Lord God who uses the foolish things to confound the wise. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 1 Corinthians 1:27

God created all things. No weapon formed against the USA will be allowed to prosper as we refute the enemy. For it is written in Isaiah 54:16 & 17, “Behold, I have created the blacksmith who blows the coals in the fire, who brings forth an instrument for his work; And I have created the spoiler to destroy. No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and every tongue, which rises against you in judgment, you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord.”

How do we refute or condemn the enemy? If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

The USA is on a course. It is turning a corner. It will come into a strait-of-way where we will see mountains leveled and low places brought up so that the way in front of us is smoother with less stones blocking our path and hindering our footing.

Every valley shall be exalted And every mountain and hill brought low; The crooked places shall be made straight And the rough places smooth. I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them. Isaiah 40:4 & 42:16

In the future, things will be temporarily established to bring greater safety to our lives. The Spirit of God is speaking this to us in advance so we will not resist what is of The Lord, and not the enemy.

I heard the Lord say, “Measures for your earthly safety will manifest thru martial law but this is a step to bring order out of the chaos. Some of these steps are meant to be temporary in the fight against lawlessness and terrorism so you must pray for your leaders to be led of me when you see martial law and other rulings put in place for your protection.”

I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people – for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior. 1 Timothy 2:1-4


There is a raging battle in the heavens for the purposes of a strait-a-way on earth. If we submit our ways to Him, He will make our paths straight. (Proverbs 3:6)

Revival and Its Participants

Revival will come and it will prevail not only in the open, but also in every nook and cranny of the nations. The harvest approaches fullness. It is so close that if you look with the eyes of the Spirit, you can see it. Christ’s Disciples will rise up from all around the world and lead captives into the light. Those that are His are being summoned by name. (Isaiah 43:1)

The wealth of the wicked will transfer into the hands of the righteous where benefactors will rise up and support the work of the Harvest. What seems impossible in the natural will happen because God is choosing those that have been in the back to come to the forefront and publicly become a display for His splendor. We will witness this in every area of life …. The secular work places as well as in the work of ministry.

Do not look at each other and point this finger or that to disqualify one another, for your greatest strength in this coming season of building will be unity and love, not perfection of the flesh but perfection thru the blood. Jesus said we are either with Him or against. It is Godly to join forces with Godly minded men and women of Christ – as assigned by Christ.


Forgive; be gracious and kind to one another. Anger has set a course in the hearts of man as a tactic to destroy one another but the Lord has promised that LOVE would cover a multitude of sins. Bless, instead of curse. Pray instead of injure. Walk away when a person or a mission is no longer your assignment. You will know when to walk away or remain. The Holy Spirit will make it clear.

A time is coming and has now come when the true worshippers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. John 4:23 This is now.

Greater creativity will populate the earth such has never been seen. Darkness will do the same … a deep darkness will attempt to cover and blind the eyes of the multitudes, but for those who have humbled themselves and asked for The Lord’s help …. Help that cometh from on high, He will open their eyes and they will see and join forces with Him in the battle for the salvation of all. (Psalm 146:8) I look to the hills from whence cometh my help. My help comes from the Lord, Who made heaven and earth. Psalms 121:1-2

Our Lord and Savior is coming soon and the earth must be prepared. Things must take place before His return. It is all written in His Word and will make greater sense once Believers come into a better open space and the places we’re called as a part of our destinies. First, we’re called to return to our constitutional roots as One Nation under God pursuing justice and liberty for all.

One final Word in closing …. God is no respecter of persons. He will use our next president to strong-arm our Nation as well as other Nations. This is a strategy for putting the USA back into position for leadership while at the same time, protecting our country.
 
I certainly respect and can appreciate the fact that you are bringing God's Word into these discussions. That said, I'm not quite certain what conclusions you're trying to draw here? I understand the scriptures on love. Shall our government leaders simply love on the perpetrators until they settle down and go away?
do you condone the violence perpetrated on the peaceful protesters at ST. John's church?
 
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
Matthew 7:1
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Seldom am I into bible quotes, but well done. Please continue your biblical asswhooping...
 
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
Matthew 7:1
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


Ahh, OK, so you're implying she's a false prophet? Well, that's certainly your prerogative. I'm certainly not going to judge her in that regard, though - especially since many of the prophetic words she uttered in July, 2016 are manifesting themselves.

Acts 2:16-21
But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel: “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy. And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke; the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day. ...

Deuteronomy 18:18-22
‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously.

As a direct aside, naturally, I take certain chances in here when I make posts regarding my faith, my journey to my faith, and my value. I'm not afraid nor ashamed in any way when I do, though. I've said many times in here before that I would've voted for John Kasich and would support still today if he had chose to run. No way I'm voting for Biden. Some in here still think I'm a one issue (right-to-life) voter, but I support Trump on many more issues than I ever would Biden.

So, Trump's my guy...despite his Bible-thumping photo-op that many are now comparing to Dukakis' helmet shot.
 
Ahh, OK, so you're implying she's a false prophet? Well, that's certainly your prerogative. I'm certainly not going to judge her in that regard, though - especially since many of the prophetic words she uttered in July, 2016 are manifesting themselves.

Acts 2:16-21
But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel: “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy. And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke; the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day. ...

Deuteronomy 18:18-22
‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously.

As a direct aside, naturally, I take certain chances in here when I make posts regarding my faith, my journey to my faith, and my value. I'm not afraid nor ashamed in any way when I do, though. I've said many times in here before that I would've voted for John Kasich and would support still today if he had chose to run. No way I'm voting for Biden. Some in here still think I'm a one issue (right-to-life) voter, but I support Trump on many more issues than I ever would Biden.

So, Trump's my guy...despite his Bible-thumping photo-op that many are now comparing to Dukakis' helmet shot.


2 Timothy 4:3
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

Jeremiah 23:16
Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.

not implying any thing but that there is plenty of guidance available for true discernment and as with jeremiah's quote the danger is spoken about in the old testament as well as new.
i have found the timothy quote especially relevant when navigating my own hearts' truthful discernment in a modern age.
 
not implying any thing but that there is plenty of guidance available for true discernment and as with jeremiah's quote the danger is spoken about in the old testament as well as new.
i have found the timothy quote especially relevant when navigating my own hearts' truthful discernment in a modern age.

I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I'm taking it that you are a never Trump and will be voting for Biden?
 
We know Trump disbanded pandemic response teams. He also disbanded criminal justice reform, de-escalation, and community policing initiatives.

By their fruits shall the know them.
 
Ahh, OK, so you're implying she's a false prophet? Well, that's certainly your prerogative. I'm certainly not going to judge her in that regard, though - especially since many of the prophetic words she uttered in July, 2016 are manifesting themselves.

Acts 2:16-21
But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel: “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy. And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke; the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day. ...

Deuteronomy 18:18-22
‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously.

As a direct aside, naturally, I take certain chances in here when I make posts regarding my faith, my journey to my faith, and my value. I'm not afraid nor ashamed in any way when I do, though. I've said many times in here before that I would've voted for John Kasich and would support still today if he had chose to run. No way I'm voting for Biden. Some in here still think I'm a one issue (right-to-life) voter, but I support Trump on many more issues than I ever would Biden.

So, Trump's my guy...despite his Bible-thumping photo-op that many are now comparing to Dukakis' helmet shot.
Your posts reveal so many deficiencies that I honestly get a little toxic shock from them.
 
If there is a God I think we are more like a science project he observes without influence or interference

The fact that we discuss God proves that the concept of God exists, therefore, God, per se, exists.

The real question is - did man create God or did it exist without man?
 
I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I'm taking it that you are a never Trump and will be voting for Biden?
i will vote for the candidate that best reflects the teachings concerning social justice. i have written before that an important metric of mine in judging administrations is their responses/treatment to the most marginalized of the society they have been entrusted to govern.
 
vote for the truth.....it'll set you free. Donald Trump is as far from the truth as anyone could possibly be....faith should be truth based...anything else is false religion ...the snake will tempt you in the desert for as long as you care to listen to him.....
 
i will vote for the candidate that best reflects the teachings concerning social justice. i have written before that an important metric of mine in judging administrations is their responses to the most marginalized of the society they have been entrusted to govern.

Do you consider yourself a Socialist?
 
vote for the truth.....it'll set you free. Donald Trump is as far from the truth as anyone could possibly be....faith should be truth based...anything else is false religion ...the snake will tempt you in the desert for as long as you care to listen to him.....

Donald Trump ain't my pastor, and I ain't heard a peep out of ISIS these days.
 
disregard for honest representation and moral character...there...I"ve started

Trump has certainly had his checkered past. But, now that I think of it, so have I. As President Trump he certainly does appear to have a stable marriage, good kids, and all that, though. Who is he not honestly representing?
 
a christian,
Knowing their hypocrisy he said to them,
“Why are you testing me?
Bring me a denarius to look at.”
They brought one to him and he said to them,
“Whose image and inscription is this?”
They replied to him, “Caesar’s.”
So Jesus said to them,
“Repay to Caesar what belongs to Caesar
and to God what belongs to God.”
They were utterly amazed at him.
Do you consider yourself a Socialist?
 

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