Game 1 Panthers vs. Rangers

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That was fuckin ridiculous . The bottom 2 lines fuckin suck. They’ve sucked all playoffs . Dmen can’t hit the fuckin net with a shot
 
Not much to say about this one. They’re playing an excellent team that makes scoring very difficult. Still, need to find a way to get more shots and need to bury the good chances they do get. Need to be a lot more aggressive.
 
Yes, Lafreniere tipped it in, but what the F is Igor doing there? Gave the puck to the Panthers, and then wasn't really back and set in position when the puck went in off Laf. We need better from Igor if we are going to win this series.

On top of that, the Rangers played with very little passion, emotion, or compete level in this game, certainly not close to enough for the ECF. Florida deserves credit as well for how they play, but come on, outside of a couple of minutes there in the 3rd after they killed the penalty, the Rangers were flat all night. They didn't shoot enough and missed the net a ton all game. They have to raise their game about 5 levels to win this series.

I'll also add, the article I read was right, Wennberg has to be on the 4th line, the guy adds absolutely zero O, and cannot score. I would swap Cuylle and Wennberg, or even put Wheeler there with Chytil and Kakko and maybe scratch Goodrow or Vesey. Wennberg kills the 3rd line with regards to scoring ability,

I think it is kind of simple, the Rangers either up their level BIG-TIME and win game 2, or this could be a shorter series than anyone thought. Need to win game 2 and all we will be fine.
 
Not to go crazy after one game but again this is the crap Drury added at the deadline. They have added absolutely nothing at all. Not even exaggerating. They have done jack shit.
 
Messiah717 said:
Not much to say about this one. They’re playing an excellent team that makes scoring very difficult. Still, need to find a way to get more shots and need to bury the good chances they do get. Need to be a lot more aggressive.
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I could be wrong, but if I were giving %'s, I would say 20% is Florida and how they play, the other 80% is on us. We played with very little energy tonight, especially for an ECF game, we didn't shoot near enough when we had chances, and missed the net a ton when we did actually shoot. On top of that Igor let in 2 goals he shouldn't have, and the 2nd goal was caused by his terrible handling of the puck.

I say all that, because the Rangers have done this before, the Canes game 5, the Devs last year, TB in the past, so I don't think it was oh Florida was so tough, I think it was more oh the Rangers need to raise their level in a major way. Not saying they'll win for sure if they do because the Panthers are very good, but they have no shot if they don't, and that is on them not Florida.

Also want to add, they need to be much much more aggressive, you are spot on there.
 
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Chytil will probably be out the rest of the series after that hit
 
I don't know if saying the Rangers need more from Igor is sensible. The Rangers need to break the forecheck pressure and get shots. Being able to finish would be nice too...one of those breakaways goes in and its an entirely new game.
 
It was disappointing, but it was one game, and if we raise our level, which I expect, we'll have a very good chance to win game 2. I also say again, Wennberg needs to be down to the 4th line, he simply cannot score, and he really hurts the 3rd line. Move Cullye up or put Wheeler there with Chytil and Kakko. We need O from our 3rd line in this series, and it will not happen with Wennberg there.

As for the trade DL, not going there again right now. Drury didn't get it done, but with Chytil and Wheeler back, we can overcome it if we raise our compete level.
 
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I don't know if saying the Rangers need more from Igor is sensible. The Rangers need to break the forecheck pressure and get shots. Being able to finish would be nice too...one of those breakaways goes in and its an entirely new game.
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100% agree, like I said the Rangers need to play with much more energy and passion and shoot more when they have the chance, and hit the net more, those are by far the biggest things. You are right about breaking the forecheck as well. The Igor comment is more he was not as on tonight as usual. The goals that went in usually do not. But when you do not score clearly the goalie is not close to your biggest issue, and Igor wasn't, the energy, passion, playing like you are in the ECF are WAY bigger issues. The Igor comment was more of an observation than he cost us a game where we didn't play with energy or score a goal. Igor is way down the list of why we lost tonight, no doubt.

I think the Rangers were kind of flat, and didn't play like it was game 1 of the ECF, they played like it was a mid-January game.

But again, it is one game. We win game 2 and we'll be okay. But now we need to win game 2 IMO.
 
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Way too many careless plays and passes to nowhere. Need to do a better job going north/south and peppering Bob with some traffic.
 
Reading articles, and they are saying a lot of what I said. Rangers looked like a team off since last Thursday. Messier said the Rangers played too careful, and they need to get emotional, he thinks they should play Rempe in game 2.

Zibanejad said “I think we feel like we have better in us, and I think first and foremost we look at ourselves and what we have to do better. There’s room for, not improvement, but to raise our level,”

“We have to look at ourselves,’’ Kreider said after producing two quiet shots on net in 19:39 of ice time. “We have to do better, and I think there’s room for improvement to raise our level.’’

Raise their level, get emotional, look like a team off since last Thursday. That was my point, they just seemed flat and not very fired up for a game 1 of the ECF at home. I really believe a lot of it was self-inflicted as the Panthers were good, but they weren't dominant or all over the Rangers. There were times in the Canes series it was way worse with regards to puck control and zone time than anything we saw in game 1, and we overcame that.

I hope they live up to these words:

“I think it boils down to playing north-south hockey,” Kreider said. “Getting pucks behind lines, getting pucks in. That’s the kind of hockey that works this time of year. That’s the kind of hockey they played, and we didn’t.”

I say we'll see a much better Rangers team in game 2, and they get the win to even the series 1-1 as they head to Florida.

As for the lineup, on the one hand Rempe adds excitement and energy, on the other hand he plays 5-7 minutes a game, and that is maybe not a great use of spot. I also think you have to leave Chytil in as the Rangers will need 3rd line scoring in this series, so if you put Rempe in who do you take out, Vesey? It won't be Goodrow as I cannot see Lav doing that. At the very least I swap Wennberg and Cuylle if you aren't going to play Wheeler over Vesey.

Lav has some interesting decisions to make for game 2. You don't want to overreact to one game, but you also need to be ahead of the curve and make the moves you think will best help your team up their game in game 2. This is the "tough side" of having all the players healthy now, you have tough choices on who sits. Good problem to have, but not easy to decide.
 
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Panthers are simply better. Doesn’t mean the Rangers can’t win but last night they played timid and that’s not a good sign.
 
Now Brooks saying the same thing:

The Rangers were not quick enough, were not hard enough, were not sharp enough and were not committed enough for a Game 1 of the conference finals.

Look, maybe the Panthers are simply better than the Rangers, but I am not going to draw that conclusion or make that statement after one game, where the Rangers did not really bring anything with them, and played like it was game 54 of the regular season, not game 1 of the ECF. I think they have earned the opportunity to play game 2 with much more energy, passion, and commitment, which I expect they will, and then we'll see what that gets them. If they fall flat on their face again, then I will say yeah, the Panthers are simply better, what can you do. I do not see that happening though, and I believe the Rangers will win game 2.

Brooks also mentioned playing Wheeler over Roslovic. It isn't crazy in this sense; this may be a series that is more suited for Wheeler at 6'5" than the smaller and faster Roslovic. Not sure if that change happens, but it isn't crazy.

In the light of day, I stand by my dropping Wennberg to the 4th line belief. I see this as a series where the Rangers are going to need a 3rd line that can score, not just cycle a puck, and I don't see a line with Wennberg being that line. I would play Chytil and Kakko with Cullye, and if Lav doesn't want that put Wheeler there for Cullye. Either way I think that is the best 3rd line for the Rangers. It also allows you to have a heck of a matchup checking line with Wennberg and Goodrow with Vesey or Rempe or Cuylle depending on how you round out the forwards.

The only two forwards that didn't play 10 minutes last night were Chytil at 9:17 and Cuylle at 7:45. Not sure what that says, but I do think the lineup decisions for game 2 are very intriguing. Do you play Wheeler thinking his size and style are a fit here, do you play Rempe thinking you could use his physical nature and energy, do you move Wennberg down, do you sit Chytil or Roslovic or Cuylle. I think it is really open which way Lav goes, but he has earned the benefit of the doubt right now, so I have faith he'll make the right moves. One thing I will say is Chytil is in my game 2 lineup if I was making the decision. He has the ability to score in the bottom 6, and I think we need that. I also would lean towards having Wheeler in. If they practice that should give us some nuggets you'd think.

It would really help if Panarin gets his game going again, in the past 4 games he is a -7, I know +/- can be a questionable stat, but that is very bad. He needs to raise his level, maybe shave his head before game 2.

At the end of the day, no matter what they do I expect much more compete and battle from the Rangers in game 2.
 
It's one game but it's a perfect example of why I want the Rangers to go all in on Brady Tkachuk to get him out of Ottawa and save his career.
 
The Rangers came in a few levels of intensity lower than the Panthers, this is where hiring Lav should pay off and he'll make the necessary adjustments.. Lav was outcoached last night, he had the ineffective top liners out too long while guys like Cuylle got 7 minutes despite having a breakaway chance and 4 hits. Lav needs to stop being a stubborn dumbass and put Rempe in, he's a better offensive option than Filip or Jonny. I don't think the Rangers could have played much worse than last night, think we'll see a different team tomorrow.
 
Can someone tell me how the difference between Lavy and Gallant cause when the Rangers lose it looks exactly the same. Last night as well as game 5 against the Canes, it didnt look any different than the games lost to the Devils. Same crap where we cant get out of our zone, flipping the puck out of our defensive zone to be able to make a line change... same type of turnovers and reliance on Igor.
 
Saying Rempe is a better offensive option than Chytil is of the dumbest fucking comments in the history of chat boards. It is his second game back. You gotta give him another game or two, which is a risk at this time of year, but worth it if he picks it up. Fox could be a very tough situation. Amazingly, there are a lot of teams out there, who have no power-play quarterback, worth crap. Fox also isn’t gonna want to play for anybody else if they ever decide to move him. Tkachuk is the move if it can be done.
 
Honestly, people have to stop with Rempe everytime something goes wrong. If you want to argue he brings some energy fine but beyond that what difference do you think he’s making against Florida?
 
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