Game Thread GAME# 10: THUNDER @ BLAZERS - NOVEMBER 5, 2017 - SUNDAY, 6:00 (PST), NBCSNW (1 Viewer)

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If we had traded for Melo over the summer, what do you think our record would be like?

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BonesJones said:
I know, I'm sure I could find another call that was actually questionable that I could go cry about on a Thunder forum.
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Done. The bullshit foul on Patty when Westbrick made a layup in the first quarter. The ref who made that call was on the other side of Westbrick and couldn't even see if Patty touched him or not. He didn't. Refs miss calls all game long. It's part of the game. They are human.

Turner barely tapped Westbrick's elbow on the three. That's a foul. If he puts his hand up and not out that doesn't happen.

But the Melo move? Where he drove diagonally away from the basket and lead with his elbow into Nurk's chin? OKC fans must have a lot of cow shit in their eyes if they can't see why that's a flagrant.
 
BBert said:
But the Melo move? Where he drove diagonally away from the basket and lead with his elbow into Nurk's chin? OKC fans must have a lot of cow shit in their eyes if they can't see why that's a flagrant.
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They may not like the call, but the explanation is pretty cut and dried:

Crew chief Rodney Mott also explained his ruling via pool report:

"We deemed that the contact was excessive and that it was not a natural basketball move where he seeks out Nurkic, hits him in the face with an elbow and goes back to the basket. So because it's unnatural and it's deemed excessive, therefore it is a (Flagrant 2)."

BNM
 
Scalma said:
Nurkic has a ton of new haters on social media today. He made it.
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I would love to see some trash talk between him and Marc, they have already done that



but it ended friendly



Shaq, Barkley & Marc on Nurkic

 
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This won't be popular, but after getting a chance to watch the replay of the game this A.M. I don't think Melo should have been ejected. Flagrant 1 maybe, but to me it's just not clear he went head-hunting. It looked like he was trying to draw contact and make a circus shot.
 
Nikolokolus said:
This won't be popular, but after getting a chance to watch the replay of the game this A.M. I don't think Melo should have been ejected. Flagrant 1 maybe, but to me it's just not clear he went head-hunting. It looked like he was trying to draw contact and make a circus shot.
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I tend to agree. However, the threshold is not intent, but "excessive and unnatural". And it's certainly arguable that Melo's act fit that description.
 
Nikolokolus said:
This won't be popular, but after getting a chance to watch the replay of the game this A.M. I don't think Melo should have been ejected. Flagrant 1 maybe, but to me it's just not clear he went head-hunting. It looked like he was trying to draw contact and make a circus shot.
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Second technical so i makes little difference Flag 1 or 2.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I guess. I think an offensive foul would have been fine, but whatever.
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"ELBOW CONTACT DESCRIPTIONS AND PENALTIES



Flagrant Foul Penalty 1

When a player attempts a move where there is not ample room but despite the obvious risk continues, and makes significant but not excessive contact with an extended elbow, a Flagrant Foul 1 will be assessed. This is also the case if the elbow is swung, apart from a basketball move, and makes significant but not excessive contact.



Flagrant Foul Penalty 2

When a player makes excessive contact with an extended elbow, that is deemed reckless or intentional, a Flagrant Foul 2 will be assessed.



When a player seeks out an opponent and throws an elbow which makes significant contact on any part of the body, regardless of where it lands, a Flagrant Foul Penalty 2 will be assessed.



When a player seeks out an opponent and throws an elbow which makes any contact above the shoulders, a Flagrant Foul Penalty 2 will be assessed."



This is the penalty as defined by the NBA.
 
Nikolokolus said:
If Damian Lillard would've been ejected on a call like that, how would you react?
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I’d undoubtedly have been pissed initially, but if you look at the video closely, I can’t argue with what the ref said. There was no natural basketball reason for Melo’s elbow to go away from the basket and into Nurk’s face. Throw in the context of Nurk’s inadvertent contact with Westbrook’s face earlier, and I have no doubt that it was intentional. I can’t imagine Dame doing something like that.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I don't get the complaints. They're better without him
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It's true though. George is their best player and once Anthony went out, he went off. I wonder how long before OKC starts giving George the ball late in games instead of the other two.
 
kjironman1 said:
"ELBOW CONTACT DESCRIPTIONS AND PENALTIES



Flagrant Foul Penalty 1

When a player attempts a move where there is not ample room but despite the obvious risk continues, and makes significant but not excessive contact with an extended elbow, a Flagrant Foul 1 will be assessed. This is also the case if the elbow is swung, apart from a basketball move, and makes significant but not excessive contact.



Flagrant Foul Penalty 2

When a player makes excessive contact with an extended elbow, that is deemed reckless or intentional, a Flagrant Foul 2 will be assessed.



When a player seeks out an opponent and throws an elbow which makes significant contact on any part of the body, regardless of where it lands, a Flagrant Foul Penalty 2 will be assessed.



When a player seeks out an opponent and throws an elbow which makes any contact above the shoulders, a Flagrant Foul Penalty 2 will be assessed."



This is the penalty as defined by the NBA.
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