Game Thread GAME# 13: HAWKS @ BLAZERS - JANUARY 16, 2021 - SATURDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

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Are Portland's Centers cursed?


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Better hope capela don't play. I see this as a loss, unfortunately. Portland has terrible perimeter defense and Young tends to kill us.

Let's face it this is a 7 man roster right now. 7 that have actual nba experience and skill. Nobody can convince me otherwise.

And fucking point guard on the bench. This was Neil's doing. I recall him appearing quite defensive at the idea of getting a REAL point for the second unit. Simon's game has not improved at all since his rookie year. I like the guy I really do but he isn't a good fit at point. He is another iso heavy guy. I see the nurkic injury as the end of playoff hopes.

As soon as dame or cj sit the shit hits the fan. god forbid they miss games.
Man we've been doing the shootout thing for a long time and we win a bunch of games doing it. We have a ton of offensive (iso and pnr expert heavy) firepower on this team, a few disruptive defenders and little to no defense after that. That sounds like Olshey/Stotts brand basketball, they should get a trademark on that shit.
 
Is it though? Isn't this a lot like the team that he rode to his best playoff run? If we don't get out of the first round, Olshey should be fired, Stotts should be fired and they should do a massive rebuild around Dame... not worrying about his timeline but getting younger guys that are ready to win now and if they stick around, after Dame.
If Stotts can actually find a way to ride this team into the playoffs and get both Collins and Nurkic back in time to be fairly healthy and in shape by then i would assume he will have enough to get past the first round. Assuming they don't end up with the 8th seed and face the Lakers.
So many ifs and and buts.
8 weeks for Nurkic so that is the end of March. They should be somewhere around game 50-52? That leaves him 20 games to get back into game shape and see if they can make a run.
Now Collins was out 4 months and then went to surgery again. 4 months again (I know I know I'm looking foolish here right?) puts him end of April or 60 games into the season. If he ever even plays again?

Blazers either need to do as you say. Blow it up and rebuild again around Lillard or sign a decent big and try to salvage this season again? PJ Tucker is who i have been throwing around but that puts them over the cap again and then we are looking at multiple repeater tax issues right?

I'm sorry this shit is just messed up. I feel sorry for Lillard and even Stotts kind of. Most of all i feel bad for young Blazer fans that never got to see the glory days and the Drexler, Porter, Williams, Kersey, Duckworth teams.
This team will once again be something special but it's hard to say how long that will take?
 
If Stotts can actually find a way to ride this team into the playoffs and get both Collins and Nurkic back in time to be fairly healthy and in shape by then i would assume he will have enough to get past the first round. Assuming they don't end up with the 8th seed and face the Lakers.
So many ifs and and buts.
8 weeks for Nurkic so that is the end of March. They should be somewhere around game 50-52? That leaves him 20 games to get back into game shape and see if they can make a run.
Now Collins was out 4 months and then went to surgery again. 4 months again (I know I know I'm looking foolish here right?) puts him end of April or 60 games into the season. If he ever even plays again?

Blazers either need to do as you say. Blow it up and rebuild again around Lillard or sign a decent big and try to salvage this season again? PJ Tucker is who i have been throwing around but that puts them over the cap again and then we are looking at multiple repeater tax issues right?

I'm sorry this shit is just messed up. I feel sorry for Lillard and even Stotts kind of. Most of all i feel bad for young Blazer fans that never got to see the glory days and the Drexler, Porter, Williams, Kersey, Duckworth teams.
This team will once again be something special but it's hard to say how long that will take?
Getting a mobile big would help but I don't think anything will make Olshey or the Vulcans go into the luxury tax this season.

I think you're off about how many games will be played though because on May 11th when the all star break is over and the second half of the season begins, we'll only have played 37 games. So if Nurk returns in 8 weeks that would put him right at the beginning of the second half so we'll have him back for 34 or 35 games.

For Zach, who really knows because whenever you have to get a surgery a second time that's bad news and the prognosis is very hypothetical (which you alluded to). If he did make it back by the end of April and the second half of the season is on schedule you're probably right as far as the games he'd have left.

That being said, I think the smart move for Zach would be to sit the rest of the season, unless he is just killing it in practice and thinks he can really increase his value as a free agent. If the guy comes back looking like someone who hasn't played in eight months, he'll just hurt his next contract.
 
Could you imagine this forum if Hezonja were still on the team and he moved up in the rotation?
Max this place is crazy enough now! I could only imagine!
 
No Elleby for this game.


 
The rookie hurts his foot handing out Gatorade and towels???
Not going to make light of a foot injury at this point i guess? Both Dame and CJ had foot injuries early in their career. Obviously we are seeing Zach out. We all know they are issues for big guys. Even small guys by NBA standards are not "Small". I think i stole that comment from you didn't I? CJ Elleby is 6-6 isn't he?
 
Getting a mobile big would help but I don't think anything will make Olshey or the Vulcans go into the luxury tax this season.
After posting that i actually read around a bit further and now i read the Blazers have a bit more to work with due to the games that will be missed by Nurkic. Seems like they can afford a vets minimum at some level. Again i am not a cap guy. As i understand there are different levels of "Vets Minimum". So picking and choosing would be key right?
Here is my point- Olshey better make some kind of move and fill the roster spot. It's why he kept it right?
I also agree wholeheartedly that he better fill another spot with a PG. Maybe use the Two Ways on a PF and go after a rehab at PG who can take a minimum contract they can handle?
He does this or this season is pretty much over but that is just the way i see it.
 
cant wait for myth of harry giles to crash and burn

im here for it
 
cant wait for myth of harry giles to crash and burn

im here for it
Well maybe lower the expectations and root for the kid to succeed? If he has a rough couple games but improves every game this would be a very good thing for the team.
The negativity on this board can be astounding?
I'm here as a fan for him as long as he works hard and gives his all on the court.
 
Still waiting for Olshey to make one of those 'move the needle' trades.
 
After posting that i actually read around a bit further and now i read the Blazers have a bit more to work with due to the games that will be missed by Nurkic. Seems like they can afford a vets minimum at some level. Again i am not a cap guy. As i understand there are different levels of "Vets Minimum". So picking and choosing would be key right?
Here is my point- Olshey better make some kind of move and fill the roster spot. It's why he kept it right?
I also agree wholeheartedly that he better fill another spot with a PG. Maybe use the Two Ways on a PF and go after a rehab at PG who can take a minimum contract they can handle?
He does this or this season is pretty much over but that is just the way i see it.
For that min spot we have a little over .5M in space between our current cap number and the luxury tax, the bonus Nurk will no longer receive is 1.25M. The vet min scale says that a player with 4 years experience has a min of just under 1.74M so we could afford anyone with 4 years experience or less without going into the repeater tax which seems to be completely off limits. FYI the min with vets at 5 years is just under 1.9M. So yeah we can sign a two way player which I have no idea why we haven't because that doesn't have an effect on the cap number and a min player with 4 years or less of experience. With our min the two best guys I could find were Zhaire Smith at PG and Ante Zizic at C. I'm sure others in here and the Blazers scouting staff could possibly find better. I have no clue about D-Leaguers available for 2-ways.

Edit: All of the FA PFs that I know are over 4 years in the league.
 
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Biggest lie ever. He had 2 good games. Did you see how many bunnies nurk missed in bubble?? Insane amount. Now new season who has the worst finishing rate around rim of all starting centers in nba!? Nurkic!!! . Guess who has hightest in nba? Its Kanter!

Nurk did come in out of shape and is bad around the rim. But when Nurk is in form his D alone makes him a far better player than Kanter.
 
Nurk did come in out of shape and is bad around the rim. But when Nurk is in form, in shape, plays with energy and is the Beast, his D alone makes him a far better player than Kanter.

Seem to be a lot of things standing in the way of him consistenly being the type of player we know he can be.
 
Still waiting for Olshey to make one of those 'move the needle' trades.


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Not going to make light of a foot injury at this point i guess? Both Dame and CJ had foot injuries early in their career. Obviously we are seeing Zach out. We all know they are issues for big guys. Even small guys by NBA standards are not "Small". I think i stole that comment from you didn't I? CJ Elleby is 6-6 isn't he?
with or without hair?
 
Stotts should have been fired 2018 after pelicans sweep. Doesn’t get worse than that. And he still here
But we have entertainment that lasts all season. However, most teams would have fired him but Neil is the reason nothing was done from '18 to now. In regards to this matter, expect little from Blazers management.
 
Nurk did come in out of shape and is bad around the rim. But when Nurk is in form his D alone makes him a far better player than Kanter.
Does ANYONE play defense for the Blazers. Perhaps, the foul calls from nit picking refs is the picture we all should see.
 
I get that feeling that we gonna witness Giles fever. Super excited to see him play, he will become a new fan favorite. His time is coming
 
Giles looks a bit lost on offense the few times I’ve seen him play. Maybe that’s why Stotts isn’t playing him. You know Stotts is always going to favor offense over defense.
 

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