Game Thread GAME# 30: TIMBERWOLVES @ BLAZERS - DECEMBER 21, 2019 - SATURDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

[Labinot41]

Neil has to trade Simons, he's so trash

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Joey Wright is an entertaining coach. He once lost his shit at a ref, the ref somehow didn't give him a tech, so Joey told the ref to give him a tech, and he got tossed.

Is this Bob Knight??? Lol

 

[DUB]

Is this Bob Knight??? Lol

It was totally calculated. Joey repeatedly told the ref to "do your job", and when he didn't, Joey told the ref to "give me tech", when he was already on one tech. So he got ejected.

The team was losing, and Joey's lead guard (Nathan Sobey) was under-performing, and not happy with Joey.

Joey was trying to get ejected to throw the responsibility of leadership onto Sobey. It sort of worked. Sobey played a good second half, but the team didn't win.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

It was totally calculated. Joey repeatedly told the ref to "do your job", and when he didn't, Joey told the ref to "give me tech", when he was already on one tech. So he got ejected.

The team was losing, and Joey's lead guard (Nathan Sobey) was under-performing, and not happy with Joey.

Joey was trying to get ejected to throw the responsibility of leadership onto Sobey. It sort of worked. Sobey played a good second half, but the team didn't win.

Sounds like an interesting coach I dont know enough about him x’s and o’s wise to know if he could coach in the NBA, but he sounds a bit like Thibs personality wise.

 

[DUB]

Sounds like an interesting coach I dont know enough about him x’s and o’s wise to know if he could coach in the NBA, but he sounds a bit like Thibs personality wise.

Very basic X's and O's (that's always been the knock on him), run and gun offence (almost SSOL), likes switching zone defence, and forcing contested threes; but always running no matter what. Great regular season philosophies, never works in the playoffs. His players would run through a brick wall for him. Could not make it in the NBA.

 

[DUB]

Sorry to interject with Australian basketball (yet again), but I wonder if some of you would like Stotts to react like this after certain losses?





If you can't sleep after the Trail Blazer's game, tune in, and see the result of this coach's reaction to a loss (to the bottom placed team), as the Adelaide 36ers take on the Cairns Taipans.

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/vid...asketball-NBL-Cairns-Taipans-v-Adelaide-36ers

Did not work. Lost to a team two places below them, in a contest for the last playoff place.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Neil has to trade Simons, he's so trash

That’s harsh but yea he should be traded if a decent offer was made

 

[DDolla]

Can’t believe we got Skal straight up for Biggie. Nice one Neil

 

[KingSpeed]

Can’t believe we got Skal straight up for Biggie. Nice one Neil

Exactly. Neil is one of the best GMs in the league, if not the best. He's pulled off so many amazing trades. Wade Baldwin and Stauskas for Hood? Mason Plumlee for Nurkic and the pick that got us Collins? Like you said, Biggie for Skal. Meyers Fucking Leonard for Hassan Whiteside? Turner for Bazemore? This guy is genius. Watch him flip Tolliver for Al Horford.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Fulltime
Us - 113
Them - 106

FTM/A (%)
Us - 20/25 (80%)
Them -15/16 (93.8%)

Turnovers (Points Scored From Turnovers)
Us - 15 (20)
Them - 17 (10)

9 more FT attempts. The refs cost Minny this one

 

[SIeepwalker]

Damn Hassan is just playing better and better for us every game. Once Nurk comes back we have a real rich man's problem on our hands

 

[SIeepwalker]

Nah more than a Box score CJ played a very good game. Dame missed a few free throws but when he was on the court there was no question who the better team was.

Yeah, I felt CJ played good I was surprised to see that is FG% was so bad. I liked most of the shot he took which is really the one thing I want to see out of him

 

[James lamphear]

Damn Hassan is just playing better and better for us every game. Once Nurk comes back we have a real rich man's problem on our hands

If they both can check there ego for the team it could work for the remainder of the year. But before anybody get carried away we still need better back point due Simons and Trent right now still not there as players. Not saying they never will get there because both are still young but the game hasn't slow down enough for both them yet.

 

[kjironman1]

He was great, I just mean he could have lifted his game if it was needed; but it wasn't.

I'm envious about the seats.

I do understand that feel. Most of that game the Blazers seemed like they were in control. They maybe could have pushed harder and i wanted some separation. But this was second of B2B and i think they were just trying to get that win. Making sure no more injuries happen.

 

[kjironman1]

Yeah, I felt CJ played good I was surprised to see that is FG% was so bad. I liked most of the shot he took which is really the one thing I want to see out of him

Off the ball on defense CJ is way better than people give him credit for. Then CJ has a certain communication with the crowd the rest of the team doesn't have. When CJ wants crowd interaction he gets it! He just plays the game smart. Knows how to effect a game in more ways than just making a basket.
I watched CJ channel Wiggins and Okogie right into Whiteside blocks. They are starting to see exactly how effective Hassan can be around the rim. Might have been easier beings KAT was not playing but the T-Wolves had no answer at all for Whiteside and Skal last night.

 

[Scalma]

Damn Hassan is just playing better and better for us every game. Once Nurk comes back we have a real rich man's problem on our hands

48 minutes of Nurkic and Whiteside is suffocating. There’s our advantage over other teams. Use Bazemores contract to grab an upgrade on the wing.

 

[SIeepwalker]

48 minutes of Nurkic and Whiteside is suffocating. There’s our advantage over other teams. Use Bazemores contract to grab an upgrade on the wing.

This year, yes. But we will need to figure something out this off season (probably letting Hassan walk unfortunately)

 

[BonesJones]

Exactly. Neil is one of the best GMs in the league, if not the best. He's pulled off so many amazing trades. Wade Baldwin and Stauskas for Hood? Mason Plumlee for Nurkic and the pick that got us Collins? Like you said, Biggie for Skal. Meyers Fucking Leonard for Hassan Whiteside? Turner for Bazemore? This guy is genius. Watch him flip Tolliver for Al Horford.

You think he's the best? Ahahaha. Ahaha. Hah.

You were joking right?

 

[BonesJones]

Exactly. Neil is one of the best GMs in the league, if not the best. He's pulled off so many amazing trades. Wade Baldwin and Stauskas for Hood? Mason Plumlee for Nurkic and the pick that got us Collins? Like you said, Biggie for Skal. Meyers Fucking Leonard for Hassan Whiteside? Turner for Bazemore? This guy is genius. Watch him flip Tolliver for Al Horford.

He also traded Barton and the pick that became Malik Beasley for 30 games of Arron Afflalo.

He also refused to trade Aldrisge then lost him for nothing.

He also traded Nicolas Batum for Vonleh and Henderson.

He also gave away Pat Connaughton and Jake Layman for nothing.

He also gave $230M in contracts in ONE summer to Evan Turner, Moe Harkless, Meyers Leonard, and Allen Crabbe.

What a genius.

 

[BonesJones]

Exactly. Neil is one of the best GMs in the league, if not the best. He's pulled off so many amazing trades. Wade Baldwin and Stauskas for Hood? Mason Plumlee for Nurkic and the pick that got us Collins? Like you said, Biggie for Skal. Meyers Fucking Leonard for Hassan Whiteside? Turner for Bazemore? This guy is genius. Watch him flip Tolliver for Al Horford.

Miami:
Drafted Bam Adebayo at 13
Drafted Tyler Herro at 13
Picked up Undrafted Rookies Duncan Robinson and Kendrick Nunn
Got Derrick Jones Jr. for nothing
Signed Jimmy Butler

Bucks:
Drafted Giannis at 15
Got Middleton for nothing
Traded a late 1st for Bledsoe
Got Connaughton for nothing

Boston:
Traded a washed up Pierce and Garnett for Brown, Tatum
Signed Hayward, Kemba
Drafted Williams

Nuggets:
Drafted Jokic, Morris in the 2nd round
Traded Afflalo for Barton and a 1st
Drafted Beasley and Harris in the late 1st

Utah:
Drafted Mitchell 13th, Gobert 27th
Found Joe Ingles
Found Royce O'Neale
Signed Bogdanovic and traded for Conley

Toronto:
Drafted Siakam 27th
Traded Derozan and Poeltl for a championship (Kawhi)
Brought in Lowry for cheap
Drafted Anunoby 23rd
Traded minimal value for Ibaka and Gasol
Fired Casey for Nurse

Brooklyn:
Traded Brook Lopez and a late 1st for Russell
Drafted Levert and Allen in the 20s
Picked up Joe Harris and Spencer Dinwiddie for nothing
Signed Kyrie and KD

Pacers:
Traded a disgruntled star with low value for Oladipo, Sabonis
Traded a late 1st for Brogdon
Traded cap space for T.J. Warren AND an early 2nd.

Thats just off the top of my mind.

 

[kjironman1]

He also traded Barton and the pick that became Malik Beasley for 30 games of Arron Afflalo.

He also refused to trade Aldrisge then lost him for nothing.

He also traded Nicolas Batum for Vonleh and Henderson.

He also gave away Pat Connaughton and Jake Layman for nothing.

He also gave $230M in contracts in ONE summer to Evan Turner, Moe Harkless, Meyers Leonard, and Allen Crabbe.

What a genius.

Bones i got to disagree with about every one of those takes right up to Pat Con and Layman.
Arron Afflalo could very well have been the solid piece they needed to contend. See Mathews injury
Aldridge had said he was staying right up to the last month or two.
Nic Batum AKA "Frenchy" was about as inconsistent as any player i have ever seen and was absolutely killing team chemistry.
You want to talk about contracts in a summer when just about every GM in the league that had money to spend overspent then so be it. There were a bunch of people who thought Turner was going to be better. He just didn't fit well. I remember about half the board saying Crabbe was gonna break out! We all watched Meyers play well and then pretty much get sidelined by injuries. He is well worth 10 million a year the way he has been playing when healthy. Even Jimmy Butler is giving a Million in bounty for him!
You already know all this so why would you post that is my only question?

 

[kjironman1]

Miami:
Drafted Bam Adebayo at 13
Drafted Tyler Herro at 13
Picked up Undrafted Rookies Duncan Robinson and Kendrick Nunn
Got Derrick Jones Jr. for nothing
Signed Jimmy Butler

Bucks:
Drafted Giannis at 15
Got Middleton for nothing
Traded a late 1st for Bledsoe
Got Connaughton for nothing

Boston:
Traded a washed up Pierce and Garnett for Brown, Tatum
Signed Hayward, Kemba
Drafted Williams

Nuggets:
Drafted Jokic, Morris in the 2nd round
Traded Afflalo for Barton and a 1st
Drafted Beasley and Harris in the late 1st

Utah:
Drafted Mitchell 13th, Gobert 27th
Found Joe Ingles
Found Royce O'Neale
Signed Bogdanovic and traded for Conley

Toronto:
Drafted Siakam 27th
Traded Derozan and Poeltl for a championship (Kawhi)
Brought in Lowry for cheap
Drafted Anunoby 23rd
Traded minimal value for Ibaka and Gasol
Fired Casey for Nurse

Brooklyn:
Traded Brook Lopez and a late 1st for Russell
Drafted Levert and Allen in the 20s
Picked up Joe Harris and Spencer Dinwiddie for nothing
Signed Kyrie and KD

Pacers:
Traded a disgruntled star with low value for Oladipo, Sabonis
Traded a late 1st for Brogdon
Traded cap space for T.J. Warren AND an early 2nd.

Thats just off the top of my mind.

The only team in there that didn't get lucky and draft a league MVP at #15 and has won a Chip is Toronto. Got to say that might have been lucky also had Durant and Klay been playing. The List of things Olshey has done well is just as long. Not saying he is the best GM in the league by any stretch but he has not been bad either.

 

[hoopsjock]

Man I can’t stand Simons. He hurts us so much. I wonder if his trade stock is even a little decent right now

Neil has to trade Simons, he's so trash

What great basketball posts we have here. Trade a struggling young player when his value is at it's lowest point. That's how you maximize trade value!

 

[AldoTrapani]

What great basketball posts we have here. Trade a struggling young player when his value is at it's lowest point. That's how you maximize trade value!

Well he’s not good

 

[SIeepwalker]

What great basketball posts we have here. Trade a struggling young player when his value is at it's lowest point. That's how you maximize trade value!

Dumb as hell. Kid is 20 years old, has been playing for 2 month and has obvious potential, yet they want to get rid of him for nothing. Good thing those guys aren't in charge I guess.

 

[kjironman1]

Well he’s not good

Give the kid another 1000 minutes and then scrub everything you have ever thought about him clean and watch him play. Don't bring any preconceived notions or expectations. I'm betting at that point your opinion would change drastically.

This is exactly what people could not do with Meyers Leonard. Meyers came in at 19. But on top of that he was trying to learn to be a Center. Usually takes 4-5 years. In his case it took 5-6 years. But if you think he is not a decent center now then you have not read a Miami Heat board recently.

 

[Dougnsalem]

 

[Strenuus]

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Hes 100% right.