Game Thread GAME# 32: JAZZ @ BLAZERS - DECEMBER 21, 2018 - FRIDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW (1 Viewer)

[TBpup]

Mitchell didn’t shoot 1-10 by accident. We defended him well. Unfortunately the other guys went off. I’d still rather be us than the Jazz.

They won a Playoff series last year and we didn't win a single game....with HCA. Not sure I prefer being on the low end of that comparison.

 

[Five Second Violation]

So the last time Portland lost by 30+ at home was the Telfair/Miles era team in 2004

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200412300POR.html

Good company we're keeping with.

 

[kjironman1]

That was a tough loss no question. I watched shots that should go in miss all night long. We are talking layup and free throws. They actually came back and made the stats respectable shooting over 40% and over 30% from three but the game was over by then.
The Jazz were lights out from 3 point. Way way better than usual shooting 51%. Also Korver and Crowder smoked the Blazer bench bad.
One thing that stands out is the Blazers are a better rebounding team than them but they matched tonight at 42 a piece. You also will probably not see them shoot 55% from the field again. They don't usually shoot that well.
Best team was the Jazz tonight. The Blazers need to take care of business on Sunday and get a win against Dallas. They owe them one after their loss in Dallas.

Then it's at Utah on Christmas. Blazers can turn this right around and go take one on their court. My bet is that will be a better game.

 

[BlazerBeav]

2nd half was just bad basketball on all units. What I like to see Zach get some run especially when Aminu is shooting like he did tonight. Reason so or later it will eventually happens. Due to I don't think Aminu will be traded at deadline or olshey won't resigned him next year.

Zach did get run - right out of the building by Joe fucking Ingles. Humiliating.

 

[wizenheimer]

Cool. Toronto minus 3 starters. Clippers without their best player. Cool.

I'm not sure Lou Williams is the Clippers best player. I'd say Harris and Gallo are both better...at least Harris is. But they were also missing Mbah a Moute, and he's a big part of their defense

that's what happened a ton last season....Portland had a magical season in that they must have won 15-20 games against teams missing their best players and integral starters. It was crazy and I think it inflated Portland's record, by quite a bit, which in turn made that 3rd seed an unrealistic gauge of the roster

 

[ripcityboy]

Sorry, fell asleep the last quarter.

 

[Jade Falcon]

So just to confirm....

1) We suck against teams with good Defense

2) We suck against fast teams with length

Swell. Just brilliant. What a great 1990s-era basketball team Neil has built here....

 

[TBpup]

I'm not sure Lou Williams is the Clippers best player. I'd say Harris and Gallo are both better...at least Harris is. But they were also missing Mbah a Moute, and he's a big part of their defense

that's what happened a ton last season....Portland had a magical season in that they must have won 15-20 games against teams missing their best players and integral starters. It was crazy and I think it inflated Portland's record, by quite a bit, which in turn made that 3rd seed an unrealistic gauge of the roster

Multiple likes it if were possible.

 

[kjironman1]

So the last time Portland lost by 30+ at home was the Telfair/Miles era team in 2004

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200412300POR.html

Good company we're keeping with.

I wonder how many teams this year have lost by 25 or more on their own court?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Multiple likes it if were possible.

it was either @Boob-No-More or @BonesJones that posted a really good breakdown showing the Blazers really didnt get more of a break from injured players then anyone else.

 

[wizenheimer]

Multiple likes it if were possible.

you and I have come a long way...we used to get along like a rat and a snake in a shoebox. Now we seem to agree on a lot of things

you must have become smarter....

 

[kjironman1]

Zach did get run - right out of the building by Joe fucking Ingles. Humiliating.

Not sure why that is humiliating? Joe Ingles is a good player. Very smart and shoots well. Solid veteran.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

you and I have come a long way...we used to get along like a rat and a snake in a shoebox. Now we seem to agree on a lot of things

you must have become smarter....

something else might have happened...

 

[wizenheimer]

something else might have happened...

I know....but I'm married so I get enough humiliation without doing it to myself

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I know....but I'm married so I get enough humiliation without doing it to myself

 

[oldmangrouch]

Not sure why that is humiliating? Joe Ingles is a good player. Very smart and shoots well. Solid veteran.

Not so much humiliating as depressing. Some of us had high hopes for Collins, but he is turning out to just be another journeyman. We could have gotten equal or better production by keeping Davis or Vonleh.

 

[TBpup]

I wonder how many teams this year have lost by 25 or more on their own court?

....to an opponent under .500

 

[DreamKillah]

Not sure why that is humiliating? Joe Ingles is a good player. Very smart and shoots well. Solid veteran.

I almost left early (which I almost never do); getting smoked by Jingles was gross . . .

 

[TBpup]

it was either @Boob-No-More or @BonesJones that posted a really good breakdown showing the Blazers really didnt get more of a break from injured players then anyone else.

Perhaps not more than anyone else....but the teams themselves were hurt by their own injuries.

The Spurs finished behind the Blazers a mere 2 games with missing their All-NBA player the entire season.
The Jazz were only 1 game behind the Blazers missing Gobert for a significant amount of games.
....and so on and so on.

So maybe ever other team played teams missing players like we did but I can't imagine the teams themselves missing players wouldn't have been much better without so many missed games.

 

[DUB]

Not so much humiliating as depressing. Some of us had high hopes for Collins, but he is turning out to just be another journeyman. We could have gotten equal or better production by keeping Davis or Vonleh.

I don’t think Collins getting trolled by JIngles is an indication of whether he’ll fulfil his potential or not.

It’s actually a sign of respect. JIngles wouldn’t bother trying to get into his head, if he didn’t think Collins could make a difference.

 

[kjironman1]

I almost left early (which I almost never do); getting smoked by Jingles was gross . . .

I don't get the point. He is a 5 year player that is productive on both ends pretty much all the time. Very solid guy that i personally think the Blazers could use. He plays hard every game i have ever watched the guy play and he always shoots well. Tonight he shot 6-11 had 5 rebs and 7 asts. 15 points. Seems like every game he is a factor for them.

 

[kjironman1]

I don’t think Collins getting trolled by JIngles is an indication of whether he’ll fulfil his potential or not.

It’s actually a sign of respect. JIngles wouldn’t bother trying to get into his head, if he didn’t think Collins could make a difference.

Not to take a page out of Scalma's book but ingles is exactly the kind of player Collins needs to play against and get beat by so he can learn. The video needs to be rolling after that game.

 

[BonesJones]

Perhaps not more than anyone else....but the teams themselves were hurt by their own injuries.

The Spurs finished behind the Blazers a mere 2 games with missing their All-NBA player the entire season.
The Jazz were only 1 game behind the Blazers missing Gobert for a significant amount of games.
....and so on and so on.

So maybe ever other team played teams missing players like we did but I can't imagine the teams themselves missing players wouldn't have been much better without so many missed games.

So they have more injury prone players...

 

[kjironman1]

So they have more injury prone players...

This is a very jinx-able area to comment on. Maybe we should just leave it be?

 

[TBpup]

So they have more injury prone players...

Fine....AD is injury prone and then totally punked the Blazers in the Playoffs.

 

[Strenuus]

I am sooooo glad I was out with family at dinner for this one. PHEW.

 

[riverman]

I am sooooo glad I was out with family at dinner for this one. PHEW.

It's the first game I've missed this season...was out all day hiking and got home to see we were blown out...get the next one!

 

[blue9]

it was either @Boob-No-More or @BonesJones that posted a really good breakdown showing the Blazers really didnt get more of a break from injured players then anyone else.

Actually, it wasn't a very good breakdown at all. Because it didn't take into account if both teams were missing their best players when they played each other. We really didn't have any injuries to speak of (unless you wanna talk about Moe). So we were pretty much always at full strength when we played against teams missing their best player(s). Whereas most other teams had major injuries, so HOU playing MIN while both CP3 and Butler are injured counts as each team playing against an opponent without their best player when it should actually be a wash. It's very different than us playing those short-handed teams while we're at full strength. To say everyone benefited equally is horse shit - that would only be true if Dame had missed 15-20ish games.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I want to know why consistency is not being taught by the coaching staff.

You can't have consistency when you have no discipline and you're essentially playing street ball. We play as if we don't have a coach or a game plan.

 

[BonesJones]

This is a very jinx-able area to comment on. Maybe we should just leave it be?

Nah, based on history and fact. Also didn't mention us.