Game Thread GAME# 32: JAZZ @ BLAZERS - DECEMBER 21, 2018 - FRIDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

[KingSpeed]

Really they make the playoffs just about every year and most of the time get beat in the 1st round, and sometimes make it to the 2nd.
Have had problems getting consistent bench play, and wing play.
Its not a perfect comparison but their are similarities there.

They are 12-20 and have a horrible locker room.

 

[KingSpeed]

They won a Playoff series last year and we didn't win a single game....with HCA. Not sure I prefer being on the low end of that comparison.

We would’ve beaten OKC in playoffs too

 

[KingSpeed]

I wonder how many teams this year have lost by 25 or more on their own court?

We blew out a great Spurs team in their building in 2013. It’s a record. Their worse loss there ever.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'm not sure Lou Williams is the Clippers best player. I'd say Harris and Gallo are both better...at least Harris is. But they were also missing Mbah a Moute, and he's a big part of their defense

that's what happened a ton last season....Portland had a magical season in that they must have won 15-20 games against teams missing their best players and integral starters. It was crazy and I think it inflated Portland's record, by quite a bit, which in turn made that 3rd seed an unrealistic gauge of the roster

Those players were injured for many games, not just when we played them. Also- if you want to discount wins against injured teams then you should discount the three championships Golden State won in the last 4 years. In 2015, the Cavs didn’t have Love or Kyrie and Cavs still won 2 games. In 2017, Kawhi got hurt while the Spurs were blowing them out. They matched up very well with that team, beating Warriors by 30+ in Oakland during regular season. In 2018, they were down 2-3 in WCF and lucked into a Chris Paul injury. Even without Paul on the Rockets, the Warriors needed Houston to miss 27 straight threes in order to beat them.

So. The Warriors aren’t a dynasty at all. Just a lucky team that would have just one championship (in the 1970s) if their opponents had been healthy.

 

[DUB]

Those players were injured for many games, not just when we played them. Also- if you want to discount wins against injured teams then you should discount the three championships Golden State won in the last 4 years. In 2015, the Cavs didn’t have Love or Kyrie and Cavs still won 2 games. In 2017, Kawhi got hurt while the Spurs were blowing them out. They matched up very well with that team, beating Warriors by 30+ in Oakland during regular season. In 2018, they were down 2-3 in WCF and lucked into a Chris Paul injury. Even without Paul on the Rockets, the Warriors needed Houston to miss 27 straight threes in order to beat them.

So. The Warriors aren’t a dynasty at all. Just a lucky team that would have just one championship (in the 1970s) if their opponents had been healthy.

Injuries are just as much a part of the game as missed shots, not boxing out, blown defensive covers, etc.

You buckle down and work through them when they happen to you, and you take full advantage when they happen to your opponents.

Just think how lucky all the teams who didn’t have to play us with a fit Walton, Bowie, Sabonis, Roy, Oden were.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Who are the 11 idiots who voted for the current broadcast team?

 

[ripcityboy]

I miss Mike And Mike cause they were ours. I realize they weren't perfect and had their flaws. But it felt like they just got shanked and nobody can even that's what happened. I was listening to one of their old broadcasts the other night and I didn't even realize they were gone. That broadcast felt so "down home" I didn't even notice the dated commentary. By contrast, the fans relationship with Calabro And Hurd seems forced. So many people go out of their way to applaude them and complliment from them.... that feels like it's almost from awkwardness. Mike & Mike just did their job and went on about their business. Calabro And Hurd feel like they are talking to the Blazers brass as much as they are the every day fan. And I find thst annoying.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Who are the 11 idiots who voted for the current broadcast team?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Just, wow

 

[TBpup]

You can't have consistency when you have no discipline and you're essentially playing street ball. We play as if we don't have a coach or a game plan.

But we do have a game plan. Shoot lots of highly contested shots without much ball movement. It's just not a very good game plan.

We would’ve beaten OKC in playoffs too

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.... versus actuality.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Just, wow

I like them, what can i say? Sometimes change is good even if the scenaries are equal.

The only thing that bothers me is Calabro gets shit mixed up more than id like.
But still nothing close to drunken Rice, as much as i liked him i hated when he mixed things up soooo often and frankly was too much of a homer for me.

If anyone doesnt like Hurd, they have issues. Nothing against Barret, really liked the guy, but Hurd is the guy you want your daughter to marry.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I dont understand why we cant dominate lesser opponents.
We just beat three playoff caliber teams in a row, come home and lay an egg.

The most frustrating part of this team is they show they can compete with the best, but they cant compete night in and night out.

The inconsistency is infuriating.

 

[TBpup]

It's been a while since I've heard booing at Moda. It has been getting less and less raucous as the' Best fans in the NBA' are understandably sitting on their hands many nights.... but they don't often boo.

Was it loud enough for Jody Alien to hear?

 

[illmatic99]

Glad I fell asleep early

 

[stampedehero]

LOSING by 30 @home sucks.

 

[kjironman1]

Those players were injured for many games, not just when we played them. Also- if you want to discount wins against injured teams then you should discount the three championships Golden State won in the last 4 years. In 2015, the Cavs didn’t have Love or Kyrie and Cavs still won 2 games. In 2017, Kawhi got hurt while the Spurs were blowing them out. They matched up very well with that team, beating Warriors by 30+ in Oakland during regular season. In 2018, they were down 2-3 in WCF and lucked into a Chris Paul injury. Even without Paul on the Rockets, the Warriors needed Houston to miss 27 straight threes in order to beat them.

So. The Warriors aren’t a dynasty at all. Just a lucky team that would have just one championship (in the 1970s) if their opponents had been healthy.

I actually agree with you here. Injuries happen and they are part of the game.

 

[kjironman1]

Who are the 11 idiots who voted for the current broadcast team?

It's 12 now.

 

[kjironman1]

I dont understand why we cant dominate lesser opponents.
We just beat three playoff caliber teams in a row, come home and lay an egg.

The most frustrating part of this team is they show they can compete with the best, but they cant compete night in and night out.

The inconsistency is infuriating.

There is an answer for that but a lot of people don't like to listen to it.
The NBA and the teams in general that play in it are full of highly talented players that can play the game well. On any given night a team can have a good game and another can have an off night. The talent disparity is so minute that essentially any team can win a game. Even more so when the teams are evenly matched.
It's why they play the games.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I like them, what can i say? Sometimes change is good even if the scenaries are equal.

The only thing that bothers me is Calabro gets shit mixed up more than id like.
But still nothing close to drunken Rice, as much as i liked him i hated when he mixed things up soooo often and frankly was too much of a homer for me.

If anyone doesnt like Hurd, they have issues. Nothing against Barret, really liked the guy, but Hurd is the guy you want your daughter to marry.

It seems odd you're comparing Rice to Calabro and Barrett to Hurd

 

[TBpup]

There is an answer for that but a lot of people don't like to listen to it.
The NBA and the teams in general that play in it are full of highly talented players that can play the game well. On any given night a team can have a good game and another can have an off night. The talent disparity is so minute that essentially any team can win a game. Even more so when the teams are evenly matched..

Of course that is the case. But often even in a loss, it is HOW you play. Too many times this season (as in season's past) the Blazers just haven't shown up. There is no disgrace in losing to the Bucks on the road. Getting throttled by 43 points? That is a different story. Same goes for losing to the Jazz at home. Perhaps Utah is finding their stride again and after a big road win in GS, has some additional confidence. But getting shellacked at home by 30 to a sub .500 team?

Losses happen and there are upsets on a nightly basis. But the Blazers have already had 9 losses of 9 or more points this season only 32 games into the year. That is a LOT of games that just aren't very competitive.

 

[Orion Bailey]

It seems odd you're comparing Rice to Calabro and Barrett to Hurd

Why? Rice was the space case before and now its Calabro.

Barret was the pr compromiser and now thats Hurd.

Im comparing personalities, not positions.

 

[Orion Bailey]

There is an answer for that but a lot of people don't like to listen to it.
The NBA and the teams in general that play in it are full of highly talented players that can play the game well. On any given night a team can have a good game and another can have an off night. The talent disparity is so minute that essentially any team can win a game. Even more so when the teams are evenly matched.
It's why they play the games.

Not buying it. I get what you are saying but that only goes so far.

If that were the case, then every game in the nba should be competetive.

 

[KingSpeed]

It's been a while since I've heard booing at Moda. It has been getting less and less raucous as the' Best fans in the NBA' are understandably sitting on their hands many nights.... but they don't often boo.

Was it loud enough for Jody Alien to hear?

People booed? I was there. The refs were lightly booed once. Otherwise, I didn't hear any booing. There was actually a lot of energy in the building and the place went nuts when Meyers hit two threes in the second half and when Dame hit the three in the fourth quarter that cut it to 12. There were cheers of Let's Go Blazers several times even though we were losing. The crowd was pretty positive throughout. As bad as the result was, everyone seemed to have fun most of the game.

 

[wizenheimer]

I don't get the point. He is a 5 year player that is productive on both ends pretty much all the time. Very solid guy that i personally think the Blazers could use. He plays hard every game i have ever watched the guy play and he always shoots well. Tonight he shot 6-11 had 5 rebs and 7 asts. 15 points. Seems like every game he is a factor for them.

you know who Ingles reminds me of?

he reminds me of the fictional Nicolas Batum everybody was hoping would develop from the real Batum. But when the chrysalis opened, it was still a grub

 

[KingSpeed]

Of course that is the case. But often even in a loss, it is HOW you play. Too many times this season (as in season's past) the Blazers just haven't shown up. There is no disgrace in losing to the Bucks on the road. Getting throttled by 43 points? That is a different story. Same goes for losing to the Jazz at home. Perhaps Utah is finding their stride again and after a big road win in GS, has some additional confidence. But getting shellacked at home by 30 to a sub .500 team?

Losses happen and there are upsets on a nightly basis. But the Blazers have already had 9 losses of 9 or more points this season only 32 games into the year. That is a LOT of games that just aren't very competitive.

A 9 point loss isn't competitive? Say what? Interesting you had to pick 9 and not 10 to be so negative.

 

[KingSpeed]

The Warriors have 4 losses of 21 or more this season. 3 of them were at home. Perspective.

 

[wizenheimer]

I miss Mike And Mike cause they were ours. I realize they weren't perfect and had their flaws. But it felt like they just got shanked and nobody can even that's what happened. I was listening to one of their old broadcasts the other night and I didn't even realize they were gone. That broadcast felt so "down home" I didn't even notice the dated commentary. By contrast, the fans relationship with Calabro And Hurd seems forced. So many people go out of their way to applaude them and complliment from them.... that feels like it's almost from ackwardsness. Mike & Mike just did their job and went on about their business. Calabro And Hurd feel like they are talking to the Blazers brsss as much as theiy are the every day fan. And I find thst annoying.

the best thing about Mike Rice analysis was that it made it OK that I was drinking heavy too

 

[tester551]

It's been a while since I've heard booing at Moda. It has been getting less and less raucous as the' Best fans in the NBA' are understandably sitting on their hands many nights.... but they don't often boo.

Was it loud enough for Jody Alien to hear?

Its tough to hear booing 150 miles away.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

The Warriors have 4 losses of 21 or more this season. 3 of them were at home. Perspective.

Golden state has also won 3 of the last 4 championships, has a roster with two mvp winners and when Cousins comes back will have a starting lineup that has 5 all stars.

I love the Blazers, but they dont really belong in the GS conversation right now.

 

[KingSpeed]

Golden state has also won 3 of the last 4 championships, has a roster with two mvp winners and when Cousins comes back will have a starting lineup that has 5 all stars.

I love the Blazers, but they dont really belong in the GS conversation right now.

The point was made because apparently 9 point losses are horrible but 21 point losses aren't?