Game Thread GAME# 4: BLAZERS @ CLIPPERS - DECEMBER 30, 2020 - WEDNESDAY, 7:00 PM, NBATV & NBCSNW

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When Melo comes back from the health/safety protocol, should he lose his spot in the rotation?

  • Yes, he was horrible before and there are better players behind him.

    Votes: 18 31.6%

  • No, but give him one last chance. If he stinks it up, into the doghouse he goes.

    Votes: 3 5.3%

  • No, give him a couple more chances, and if he doesn't play well, then give away his minutes or spot.

    Votes: 6 10.5%

  • No, but keep him on a short leash each game. Pull him if he's not playing well.

    Votes: 28 49.1%

  • No, a player should not lose his spot because of an injury. He deserves his place in the rotation.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, Melo re-signed w/ the Blazers on a min contract. He's a future Hall-of-Famer & deserves respect

    Votes: 2 3.5%
  • Total voters
    57
  • Poll closed .
Like a lot of you, I'm at a loss for why Giles isn't getting minutes. Not sure who should lose minutes, but someone should.

But I'm not surprised that Stotts is sticking with what's not working.

Once they got down by 20, he should've gone "hey, this shit isn't working, I'll try giles. he's at least has a decent game".

but did he? Nope.
 
Not very good game but it's a lost but they need to figure things out especially on defense. I will watched it tomorrow to give more opinion on the game. But coming out LA 1-1 it's kind of a win. If we can take 2 at Golden State and come back home 4-2 I will feel good. But some of these guys need step up and especially Nurk because he pretty important in the middle on defense but also pretty important piece on offense and right he just not producing like he use too. Yes out of shape but go far as you can at 100 percent and come out. The coach must play Giles to relieve Nurk for 5 minutes each half until he gets in shape.
 
PCmor7 said:
I didn't want to be the first one to mention that and potentially have to fight the entire board over it, but, yeah, his shot just hasn't been nearly as deadly through the first 4 games as we're used to seeing in the last few seasons.
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Yep, he's shot... you guys are really onto something. He fell off when he turned 30. That's it for him. All-NBA to scrub over night. It couldn't be a slow start. It's not like he just put together a brilliant half against the world champs two nights ago or anything. GTFOH
 
BonesJones said:
All this shows is that it's very easy to have differing opinions on players, which makes basing coaching off of this type of thing extremely subject to bias.
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I agree completely.
It's just so very hard to judge what a player does in a different system with different levels of talent around them. Just because a player plays worse doesn't mean his last coach was way better or likewise.
One other issue that we didn't discuss might also be the training staff and assistant coaches including the Video coordinator and even the facilities they work out in. A good organization is important.
 
ehizzy3 said:
Thats some backwards logic you got yourself into trying to justify this loss
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Wonder what the Clipper fan equivalent of you was saying when they lost by 50? Must’ve been something to see!
 
BlazerBeav said:
Wonder what the Clipper fan equivalent of you was saying when they lost by 50? Must’ve been something to see!
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All I said was the spurs didn’t get blown out. I watched the fourth quarter. Sorry you were wrong, it’ll be okay champ
 
You know, this is starting to resemble last years team. Lost embarrassingly at the home opener, plays suspect defense (actually, suspect defense would be an improvement), and in a lot of the games they lose, they look like a bunch of people who either don't care OR have no actual concept of playing basketball.

Last year they at least had the excuse of injuries (and lord did they milk that excuse). This years excuse is stupid, as they've now had almost a MONTH to get their shit together and still look like a team that has no idea what the literal and actual fuck it means to play basketball.
 
I have not read this thread so i really don't know if this has been said. The Blazers can play better than that. They can beat that team. I really don't see how the Clippers could ever have that kind of shooting night on a consistent basis and i know for a fact you will not see the Blazers miss that many wide open looks from 3.
 
BlazerBeav said:
Sounds like excuses to me, and I just read Stotts is guilty of using injuries as an excuse, so not valid.
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Basketball, especially the NBA, is a star driven league. Injuries matter when it’s your top players. Like the Clippers didn’t have Kawhi against the Mavs and the Spurs didn’t have Aldridge tonight. I believe Stotts didn’t have injuries to any of his star players tonight.
 
julius said:
Like a lot of you, I'm at a loss for why Giles isn't getting minutes. Not sure who should lose minutes, but someone should.

But I'm not surprised that Stotts is sticking with what's not working.

Once they got down by 20, he should've gone "hey, this shit isn't working, I'll try giles. he's at least has a decent game".

but did he? Nope.
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Big problem he dedicated to Kanter and Kanter is doing good job and he is dedicated to Melo and decent offense game tonight but or his defense he lacking in that department. So Giles is the man looking in. But I really think there minutes there for him until Nurk gets in shape by come in at the 5 minute mark in the 1st and 3rd. That's my opinion.
 
I'd say we had some premature swagger going into this game after beating the Lakers and it came back to bite us in the ass...lazy passes...shots coming up short....playing a team that had just been embarrassed by 50 on their court....recipe for disappointments
 
blazerkor said:
Yep, he's shot... you guys are really onto something. He fell off when he turned 30. That's it for him. All-NBA to scrub over night. It couldn't be a slow start. It's not like he just put together a brilliant half against the world champs two nights ago or anything. GTFOH
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I didn't say he was shot, for heaven's sake. I said his shot doesn't look as good as it has in recent seasons.

For Pete's sake, calm down.
 
James lamphear said:
Big problem he dedicated to Kanter and Kanter is doing good job and he is dedicated to Melo and decent offense game tonight but or his defense he lacking in that department. So Giles is the man looking in. But I really think there minutes there for him until Nurk gets in shape by come in at the 5 minute mark in the 1st and 3rd. That's my opinion.
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Unfortunately Stubborn Stotts has already made up his mind in regards to Giles. After Giles’ impressive preseason, Stotts was asked about Giles’ role in the rotation. He pretty much laughed it off and said that Giles would only play if something drastic happened.
 
riverman said:
I'd say we had some premature swagger going into this game after beating the Lakers and it came back to bite us in the ass...lazy passes...shots coming up short....playing a team that had just been embarrassed by 50 on their court....recipe for disappointments
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One good win and we start getting cocky. They haven’t proven anything yet, they need to be hungry 100% of the time.
 
James lamphear said:
Big problem he dedicated to Kanter and Kanter is doing good job and he is dedicated to Melo and decent offense game tonight but or his defense he lacking in that department. So Giles is the man looking in. But I really think there minutes there for him until Nurk gets in shape by come in at the 5 minute mark in the 1st and 3rd. That's my opinion.
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This is probably as honest of a take as you can get. Kanter is not playing poorly and melo did play fairly well. Giles needs some run and now that Collins is out for the season pretty much Stotts better start getting the guy in the game.
 
julius said:
You know, this is starting to resemble last years team. Lost embarrassingly at the home opener, plays suspect defense (actually, suspect defense would be an improvement), and in a lot of the games they lose, they look like a bunch of people who either don't care OR have no actual concept of playing basketball.

Last year they at least had the excuse of injuries (and lord did they milk that excuse). This years excuse is stupid, as they've now had almost a MONTH to get their shit together and still look like a team that has no idea what the literal and actual fuck it means to play basketball.
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I get the vibe of those teams that are going "all-in" for a championship, but then you see that there are problems, I mean, glaring issues that are going to be really hard to overcome. Sometimes, it's that the stars you brought in all were a little past their prime, or the chemistry just doesn't work, or you acquired all this offense but you can't stop anyone. The players realize it, though, and slowly you see the effort slipping.

The difference here was Olshey's idea of going all-in was bringing in a couple of defensive specialists and a promising young big our coach refuses to play. But the tension you sense from this team when they get down is the same; it's like they gave it their best shot and they know it doesn't work.
 
OneSport3 said:
Unfortunately Stubborn Stotts has already made up his mind in regards to Giles. After Giles’ impressive preseason, Stotts was asked about Giles’ role in the rotation. He pretty much laughed it off and said that Giles would only play if something drastic happened.
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Something "Drastic" did happen in my opinion. Zach just went down for the season again.
 
TBpup said:
Absolutely it is the whole team tonight. Oddly though, when Melo plays, they look like that.
The one game he was out, the whole team looked much better.
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Yes but Trent hit 26 too makes a big difference for the bench and he plays better defense. But if our guards don't go off then we usually don't have a shot. But I blame this guard type of offense and it really don't get others players involved. Our starting front line had 14 shots together. Our guards had 31 shots. So basically there no balance in the offense. Defense another story though.
 
julius said:
You know, this is starting to resemble last years team. Lost embarrassingly at the home opener, plays suspect defense (actually, suspect defense would be an improvement), and in a lot of the games they lose, they look like a bunch of people who either don't care OR have no actual concept of playing basketball.

Last year they at least had the excuse of injuries (and lord did they milk that excuse). This years excuse is stupid, as they've now had almost a MONTH to get their shit together and still look like a team that has no idea what the literal and actual fuck it means to play basketball.
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Odd, they sure looked like they had 'a literal and actual fuck what it meant to play basketball' on Monday....
 
blazerkor said:
Nope, we go for the win against the Clips and then beat the Warriors twice. That's the mindset. I don't think the Warriors are very good and they just lost their backup big Chriss for the season. They're snake bitten.
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So how is a 4 game split on the road looking to you now?
 
Clinging onto the laker win lol.... that’s like deja vu after game 1 of the playoffs
 
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