Game Thread GAME# 4: BLAZERS @ CLIPPERS - DECEMBER 30, 2020 - WEDNESDAY, 7:00 PM, NBATV & NBCSNW

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When Melo comes back from the health/safety protocol, should he lose his spot in the rotation?

  • Yes, he was horrible before and there are better players behind him.

    Votes: 18 31.6%

  • No, but give him one last chance. If he stinks it up, into the doghouse he goes.

    Votes: 3 5.3%

  • No, give him a couple more chances, and if he doesn't play well, then give away his minutes or spot.

    Votes: 6 10.5%

  • No, but keep him on a short leash each game. Pull him if he's not playing well.

    Votes: 28 49.1%

  • No, a player should not lose his spot because of an injury. He deserves his place in the rotation.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, Melo re-signed w/ the Blazers on a min contract. He's a future Hall-of-Famer & deserves respect

    Votes: 2 3.5%
  • Total voters
    57
  • Poll closed .
Labinot41 said:
Quick is by far the best blazer beat reporter, he's the only one who has balls to ask critical questions, and that's what i expect from a journalist. The rest are just ass lickers
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Watch out the homers around here hate Quick
 
B-Roy said:
well I can guarantee those numbers are wrong. NBA.com tracks shots by closest defender and Blazers are last in the league at getting wide open looks. These stats are before tonight’s game. I’ll check what they are tomorrow but I pretty much guarantee the Clippers number will be up.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/shots-closest-defender-10/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular Season&CloseDefDistRange=6+ Feet - Wide Open

Blazers generate 12 open 3s per game and hit 36%. Clippers 15 and hit 34%. Thats all before today’s game. Check back tomorrow to see how that number changes.
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I see.
I do have some questions about the metric but i do see the way it is built. Was more wondering how many they give up? Also funny how they jump all the way up to 18+ a game (2nd in the league behind Houston) when you put in (Open Looks) which is 4-6 feet. And they are #1 within 2 foot making the most in the league. I would say that is because of Lillard trying to draw fouls.

Still looking for the defensive metric? The thing that troubles me with the metric is the (4-6 foot) open look? I myself have a 37 inch arm. with a step i can cover 6 feet very fast. These guys are bigger and longer than i am and in arguably better shape not to mention trained to defend. 48 inches is lifting my arm and leaning. I personally would not call that an open look. i would have a hand in a face and i'm old. So as my question on this stat remains. At what point are they taking the stat? the gather or the release? If a player is inside 36 inches on the release they better watch out or it's a 4 point play or 3 free throws on the miss.
https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/sho...ular Season&CloseDefDistRange=4-6 Feet - Open
 
B-Roy said:
It’s not even blowouts, this game was over in the first quarter. Some games that look like blowouts are actually competitive for 2-3 quarters and then one team gets hot. We sucked out of the gate and the entire game basically became garbage time. All our losses follow this pattern.
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I want to make sure i'm respectfully disagreeing with you here. Because yes after the first this game seemed over. But when i was watching i was looking for under 20 by half and they actually did that. Then i wanted under 20 by the start of the 4th. they were at 19. The beginning of the 4th to me was when the game was over. if the run had gone the other way (which it very easily could have) the Blazers would have been at 11. But the Clippers went on a 8 point run and it was 27. That was when Stotts called it and put in the bench. Game over at that point. No sense putting Lillard or Nurk back in. Pull CJ #1 and put in CJ #2.
Again this was just the way i was thinking when watching. I do not get on Game threads and listen to doom and gloom. I stay focused on the game and try not to throw shit through my TV. There is always a way to get back into a game for this team. Lillard can shoot 0 for 20 and then hit 5 straight threes. We have all seen 20 point comeback wins.
 
Fuugly. But kind of an odd game. It was like we were drunk or something. I saw dame with some straight up terrible turnovers that out of character.
Im not sure if it was the hot 3pt shooting out of the gate from the clippers or what, but this didn't even look like a team trying to gel.
We just had a bad night and got beat.

Trust in Lillard. He will rebound.
 
PCmor7 said:
I didn't say he was shot, for heaven's sake. I said his shot doesn't look as good as it has in recent seasons.

For Pete's sake, calm down.
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Don't worry too much about that. Some people take other people's posts and completely attribute to them things they didn't come close to saying all the time.
 
TBpup said:
Don't worry too much about that. Some people take other people's posts and completely attribute to them things they didn't come close to saying all the time.
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I'm really trying to post in ways that are obviously not "Attacking" or "Judgmental". It's tough but it can be done. The first problem to remember is that there is no voice inflection so a joke can be taken very wrong. Then try to remember past comments and buffer any biased conversation.
Any way i agree it's easy to post completely off base. I've done it many many times myself.
 
kjironman1 said:
I'm really trying to post in ways that are obviously not "Attacking" or "Judgmental". It's tough but it can be done. The first problem to remember is that there is no voice inflection so a joke can be taken very wrong. Then try to remember past comments and buffer any biased conversation.
Any way i agree it's easy to post completely off base. I've done it many many times myself.
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step up your game then!

ive never been off base with any of my posts. Ever! Nope! Not once!!


(The sad thing is some people here are truly like this.)
 
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The season is going to be down & up, fighting for 9-6 with a possible trade.
 
I think the declarations about simons might be a tad premature, but whatever.

This teams biggest issue is it's anemic defense, especially at the 3.

The Jazz took 50 3 pointers, the Rockets took 35 and the Clippers took 38. The Lakers took only 27, and honestly, if they had taken as many as the Jazz or Clippers did, they probably would've won the game.

Not that the # of 3 pointers that the Jazz shot (or made for that matter) was the difference maker, it's just a sign of the teams defense being still stuck in Stotts "wide open 3's are harder to make than contended 2s!" mentality.

this team isn't going anywhere with that mentality and with him as the head coach.
 
BlazerBeav said:
Odd, they sure looked like they had 'a literal and actual fuck what it meant to play basketball' on Monday....
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Highlighted for emphasis.

and in a lot of the games they lose, they look like a bunch of people who either don't care OR have no actual concept of playing basketball.
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ehizzy3 said:
Fucking Quick trolling Stotts again

“so you think you did a good job defending the three?”
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Isn't that a legitimate question? I'd follow up with: "What's your plan to do better in that area?" Did Boylen have any ideas?" "Did Boylen actually get to work with the players?" "Have you decided to give up on changing the defensive scheme?"
 
julius said:
Not that the # of 3 pointers that the Jazz shot (or made for that matter) was the difference maker, it's just a sign of the teams defense being still stuck in Stotts "wide open 3's are harder to make than contended 2s!" mentality.
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or just venting, but isn't that the exact opposite of his stated scheme?
 
handiman said:
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or just venting, but isn't that the exact opposite of his stated scheme?
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It was poorly worded. Im trying to say that it wasn't just the 3 pointers that killed the Blazers, it was the defensive lapses and continued mindset of doubling the post at the expense of the 3.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Fuugly. But kind of an odd game. It was like we were drunk or something. I saw dame with some straight up terrible turnovers that out of character.
Im not sure if it was the hot 3pt shooting out of the gate from the clippers or what, but this didn't even look like a team trying to gel.
We just had a bad night and got beat.

Trust in Lillard. He will rebound.
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Dame will likely score and assist quite a lot more than he will rebound but he'll do that to, really well for his position.
 
B-Roy said:
well I can guarantee those numbers are wrong. NBA.com tracks shots by closest defender and Blazers are last in the league at getting wide open looks. These stats are before tonight’s game. I’ll check what they are tomorrow but I pretty much guarantee the Clippers number will be up.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/shots-closest-defender-10/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular Season&CloseDefDistRange=6+ Feet - Wide Open

Blazers generate 12 open 3s per game and hit 36%. Clippers 15 and hit 34%. Thats all before today’s game. Check back tomorrow to see how that number changes.
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And just from watching the game yesterday; I thought Clips had many more open threes than Blazers.
 
julius said:
It was poorly worded. Im trying to say that it wasn't just the 3 pointers that killed the Blazers, it was the defensive lapses and continued mindset of doubling the post at the expense of the 3.
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Gotcha.
 
Well I start watching the game and I shut off before half time. So that's should tell want thought overall on both side of the ball.
 
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