Game Thread Game 5 Rangers Look to take charge...

[strudwickisthebest]

Idk if they're going 7... Not looking past g6.. Need to do more than score first. They need a shutout.. Outside of the last 2 games leads don't mean much

 

[Ranger71]

Welp, we'll see what they've got. AGAIN.

 

[Stepupstepan]

meh...they will pull out the next game out of their ass as always.

 

[chuckd3534]

Apples and oranges. Johnson is a different level talent than Miller and Hayes. Dude had 30 goals and 70 points this season, so please don't mention him. Kuch same deal, 30 goals and 64 points. Palat is the lowest of the 3, and he had 60 points. And Johnson and Palat also are in their 2nd years, while Hayes is in his 1st year, and Miller is in his 1st year getting real play.

So I don't see that as even close to the same situation. Those guys were their top players all season (with Stamkos). Miller for sure, and Hayes as well, were not on that level.

Those guys are higher level talents than Miller and Hayes. Hayes had 45 points, and I think will get better. Miller had 23 points, so he is simply not near that level at this point, so it isn't fair to ask him to be in the playoffs.

 

[Messiah717]

They don't have some kind of elimination immunity. Eventually doing this crap will come back to bite them.

 

[Stepupstepan]

miller and hayes are not on that level. Not even close.

 

[chuckd3534]

Okay, I am out. All about game 6 now. Win it and we have the edge in game 7, but I think it will be a very dificult game for us to win in that building against that team.

But stranger things have happened...

 

[Messiah717]

We shall see what happens in game 6. Frankly, I really think they need to win this game tonight. It was almost another must win in my book.

 

[Ranger71]

Yeah i'm not feeling this game 6 magic like the others. Perhaps a young TB team would have issues in a game 7 but can it get there?

 

[chuckd3534]

For sure Step...not a fair comparison at all. Miller and Hayes will get better. Hayes could be a 20/55 guy. Miller maybe 15-18/35 guy, but those triplets are studs. Miller won't be, and Hayes at best will be close to Palat, but he isn't Johnson who is a stud.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Yea but Chuck it's about making plays in this series, not how many points they had in the regular season. They need to make plays, especially if you're on the top line

 

[Messiah717]

The Rangers have guys like Kreider with all the talent in the world but refuses to show up on a nightly basis. That's the difference between a triplet on Tampa and the forwards on the Rangers. Too many disappearing acts.

 

[chuckd3534]

I felt the same way Mess, but who knows...

 

[Ranger71]

Buchnevich can be as good as any of those three.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Johnson, Palat, Kucherov will get more
Points than Hayes or Miller but that doesn't mean those guys Get a pass this time of year. They scored a huge goal in G7 against WSH so they have it in them... Miller bangs in a goal to make it
1-0 tonight is a different game

 

[chuckd3534]

All I will say is good luck strud. You are comparing rookies who have less talent to the triplets, who are filled with talent, especially Johnson who is a stud.

I think it is ridiculous to do so, but have fun with it bro. That is their # 1 line, we don't count on Miller/Hayes the same way, because they aren't close to the same level of player, but again enjoy expecting the same out of Miller/Hayes...and of course being letdown because of unrealistic expectations...LOL.

 

[chuckd3534]

Can Hayes and/or Miller score a goal or two...OF COURSE...but don't compare them to players who are simply much better...that is dumb...period.

Anyway, this is a ridiculous back and forth. Said I wasn't going to do this anymore, so you do you from here forward.

 

[Ranger71]

Will msl's last game be in his old arena?

 

[chuckd3534]

I think MSL comes back somewhere, but it is possible.

 

[Ranger71]

I guess last game here is better worded.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Go back and read the posts Chuck, I didn't compare them I just said they, like the rest of the offense,
Aren't getting a pass. They need to contribute. Especially Miller playing on te top line. At this time of the year with four teams left everyone from rookies to veterans have to be on top of their game

 

[chuckd3534]

Fair...I wouldn't give them a pass. I am also not going to kill two playoff rookies. I would get on a lot of guys before I got to those two. But yes Miller could have 2 or 3 goals and Hayes 4 or 5 goals...I agree.

 

[Ranger71]

Hayes hasn't been too bad, he's learning as a rookie, and Miller has just been a little predictable with the puck. Others have been far more absent.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

I was actually agreeing with your point now that I reread it. And yes I would line up 8 guys over them who need to show up

 

[strudwickisthebest]

I kinda liked the Hags-Hayes-Miller line better

 

[Messiah717]

I would've bet on Nash going back to being a useless asshole. It's what he does each and every time he has a game in the playoffs where he scores.

 

[Messiah717]

Lots of veterans on this team deserve blame before Hayes and Miller. I mean I'd love for somebody to explain to me what Staal is doing out there.

 

[Ranger71]

As a collective they need to use the old KISS method on Tue. With the emphasis on the last S.lol

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Stamkos has goals in what? 4 straight games... Geeze. We don't get similar production from Nash... As crazy as it sounds I thinks he's more of a secondary guy in the playoffs. Maybe getting a similar goal scorer will make him feel less
Pressure come playoff time

 

[Ranger71]

Kreider and Nash have to get around the net for putbacks. They did last game and in Wash in gm 6.