Game Thread GAME# 50: BLAZERS @ SUNS - JANUARY 24, 2019 - THURSDAY, 6:00 PM, NBCSNW

[James lamphear]

Aminu hurt his finger last night and likely the reason he didn't play in the 4th in a blowout.

Maybe but his finger wasn't hurt when he almost didn't play the whole 4th against OKC except last couple minutes.

 

[CupWizier]

Maybe but his finger wasn't hurt when he almost didn't play the whole 4th against OKC except last couple minutes.

I think you are trying to read way to much into it. He played 31 minutes that game which is above his average.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That wasn't my point. I was wondering who will be the free agents the next year when we will definitely be below the cap to have the full mle. Is it worthwhile losing an asset for next year or keep the asset and go after a free agent the following year for the full mle.

My mistake--I misinterpreted your post. My apologies.

 

[CupWizier]

My mistake--I misinterpreted your post. My apologies.

no problem.

 

[kjironman1]

Answer me this:

Before last night's game how many games above .500 were they?

I already answered that. They have played 50 games. Playing 50 games. A team with a 500 record would have a 25-25 win loss record. If the blazers would have lost 5 more games they would indeed have a 500 record. But they have won those games so they are .600 with a 30-20 record.

Just to pick nits, 30 and 20= .600. Still better than .500, but not .666.

You are correct. My mistake.

 

[hoopsjock]

I already answered that. They have played 50 games. Playing 50 games. A team with a 500 record would have a 25-25 win loss record. If the blazers would have lost 5 more games they would indeed have a 500 record. But they have won those games so they are .600 with a 30-20 record.

You are correct. My mistake.

No you just answered after last night. I asked before when they were 29-20.

 

[kjironman1]

No you just answered after last night. I asked before when they were 29-20.

Half game involved. Not an even number. What is your number on it? If you are going to say 9 games i'm gonna say i disagree and leave it at that. Because if you are at the end of a season a 50 win team is not 18 games above 500. A 50 win team is 9 games over 500 at 50-32.

 

[hoopsjock]

Half game involved. Not an even number. What is your number on it? If you are going to say 9 games i'm gonna say i disagree and leave it at that. Because if you are at the end of a season a 50 win team is not 18 games above 500. A 50 win team is 9 games over 500 at 50-32.

So in your way you can only say a team is "this" many games above .500 when they've played an even amount of games? Have you ever read that in an article or anything where they say one game that the team is 10 games over .500 and then the next game they say that we have to wait for them to play another game before we can calculate it again? Doesn't that sound a little ridiculous?

I totally get that a 30-20 is 5 games better than a team that was 25-25. However in your way of thinking you'd have to take wins away from them to only have 25 wins. They already have 30 so 25-25 isn't possible. Therefore they are currently 10 games above .500. Any other answer changes what has actually happened in reality.

 

[RR7]

I already answered that. They have played 50 games. Playing 50 games. A team with a 500 record would have a 25-25 win loss record. If the blazers would have lost 5 more games they would indeed have a 500 record. But they have won those games so they are .600 with a 30-20 record.

You are correct. My mistake.

Literally nowhere or nobody else calculates it that way. It's not about changing the past, it's about what would have to happen in the future. Right now we are 30-20. How many games, GOING FORWARD would it take for us to get to .500 ? The answer is 10(assuming, obviously, we lose the right amount) . At 30-20, it would take 10 losses, not 5, to get to .500. Thus 10 over. You cant time travel, so it's about future. Its not about agreeing to disagree, you're just wrong on it, sorry.

 

[kjironman1]

So in your way you can only say a team is "this" many games above .500 when they've played an even amount of games? Have you ever read that in an article or anything where they say one game that the team is 10 games over .500 and then the next game they say that we have to wait for them to play another game before we can calculate it again? Doesn't that sound a little ridiculous?

I totally get that a 30-20 is 5 games better than a team that was 25-25. However in your way of thinking you'd have to take wins away from them to only have 25 wins. They already have 30 so 25-25 isn't possible. Therefore they are currently 10 games above .500. Any other answer changes what has actually happened in reality.

OK. So you want to say a 50 win team is 18 games over 500. Fine then. I'm good with that.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Literally nowhere or nobody else calculates it that way.

This is true. Not in the sports world anyways.

 

[kjironman1]

Have you ever read that in an article or anything where they say one game that the team is 10 games over .500 and then the next game they say that we have to wait for them to play another game before we can calculate it again? Doesn't that sound a little ridiculous?

That isn't what i said at all. Not an even number just says 4 1/2 games above. But it seems you want to nit pick this so again "WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER?"

 

[kjironman1]

Literally nowhere or nobody else calculates it that way. It's not about changing the past, it's about what would have to happen in the future. Right now we are 30-20. How many games, GOING FORWARD would it take for us to get to .500 ? The answer is 10(assuming, obviously, we lose the right amount) . At 30-20, it would take 10 losses, not 5, to get to .500. Thus 10 over. You cant time travel, so it's about future. Its not about agreeing to disagree, you're just wrong on it, sorry.

I call Bull. Everyone calculates it this way. What you are trying to say is at the end of the season a team that won 50 games is 18 games over 500. That simply is not the case. So what is your number for a team 29-20. Are you going to say 9 games over also?
It's kind of funny how the definition changes during the season and then it morphs into a whole new number at the end. So a team that wins 30 of 50 games is 10 games over and then all the sudden when the last game is played 41 games becomes a 500 team. At this pace the blazers are on course to win 46 or 47 games. So what will they have then?

 

[RR7]

I call Bull. Everyone calculates it this way. What you are trying to say is at the end of the season a team that won 50 games is 18 games over 500. That simply is not the case. So what is your number for a team 29-20. Are you going to say 9 games over also?
It's kind of funny how the definition changes during the season and then it morphs into a whole new number at the end. So a team that wins 30 of 50 games is 10 games over and then all the sudden when the last game is played 41 games becomes a 500 team. At this pace the blazers are on course to win 46 or 47 games. So what will they have then?

Again,though, the goal isnt working backwards to .500, it's going forward to .500. A 50 win team is 18 above. It would take 18 more losses to get to .500. 29 and 20 is 9 above. The definition isnt changing ever. 50-32 is 18 over.

 

[kjironman1]

Again,though, the goal isnt working backwards to .500, it's going forward to .500. A 50 win team is 18 above. It would take 18 more losses to get to .500. 29 and 20 is 9 above.

Okay. If you want to say a 50 win team at the end of the season is 18 over 500 i'm good with that. But no 18 more losses would not put them at 500. It would put them at 32 wins. and 50 losses. There are only 82 games in an NBA season.

 

[blue9]

 

[RR7]

Okay. If you want to say a 50 win team at the end of the season is 18 over 500 i'm good with that. But no 18 more losses would not put them at 500. It would put them at 32 wins. and 50 losses. There are only 82 games in an NBA season.

If a team is 50 and 32 and loses 18 more games, they'd be at .500.

 

[hoopsjock]

That isn't what i said at all. Not an even number just says 4 1/2 games above. But it seems you want to nit pick this so again "WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER?"

The Blazers are 10 games above. 500.

In your end of year example they would be 18 games over .500.

 

[kjironman1]

The Blazers are 10 games above. 500.

In your end of year example they would be 18 games over .500.

This is pretty comical.
If a team plays 4 games and they win 3 of them you are trying to say they are 2 games over 500.
When a team plays 82 games 41-41 is 500 ball.
Now you HoopsJock are going to tell me that a team that wins 50 games is 18 games over 500.
Seriously?

 

[kjironman1]

If a team is 50 and 32 and loses 18 more games, they'd be at .500.

I guess the league needs to expand the season to 100 games then.

 

[kjironman1]

Here we Go! @hoopsjock
30-20 = .600 5 games over
29-21 = .580 4 games over
28-22 = .560 3 games over
27-23 = .540 2 games over
26-24 = .520 1 game over
25 - 25 = 500 this is a 500 team record.

How can this be any more clear Jet!

would you like me to do it with an odd record fine....

29-20 = .5918 4 1/2 games over
28-21 = .5714 3 1/2 games over
27-22 = .551 2 1/2 games over
26-23 = .530 1 1/2 games over
25 -24 = .510 1/2 game over
24-25 = .489 under 500....

This is crazy talk. In both scenarios with 5 more losses the record changes to 500 ball. Now tell me again how many games they are above 500?

 

[hoopsjock]

Here we Go! @hoopsjock
30-20 = .600 5 games over
29-21 = .580 4 games over
28-22 = .560 3 games over
27-23 = .540 2 games over
26-24 = .520 1 game over
25 - 25 = 500 this is a 500 team record.

How can this be any more clear Jet!

would you like me to do it with an odd record fine....

29-20 = .5918 4 1/2 games over
28-21 = .5714 3 1/2 games over
27-22 = .551 2 1/2 games over
26-23 = .530 1 1/2 games over
25 -24 = .510 1/2 game over
24-25 = .489 under 500....

This is crazy talk. In both scenarios with 5 more losses the record changes to 500 ball. Now tell me again how many games they are above 500?

In my very first post I said you were confusing games AHEAD of a .500 pace with games ABOVE .500. You said you weren't but this post proves otherwise. Jet is the one who argued your side while every other person in the forum had the correct way.

In your 50-32 example 32-32 becomes .500 not 41-41.

 

[hoopsjock]

Here we Go! @hoopsjock
30-20 = .600 5 games over
29-21 = .580 4 games over
28-22 = .560 3 games over
27-23 = .540 2 games over
26-24 = .520 1 game over
25 - 25 = 500 this is a 500 team record.

How can this be any more clear Jet!

would you like me to do it with an odd record fine....

29-20 = .5918 4 1/2 games over
28-21 = .5714 3 1/2 games over
27-22 = .551 2 1/2 games over
26-23 = .530 1 1/2 games over
25 -24 = .510 1/2 game over
24-25 = .489 under 500....

This is crazy talk. In both scenarios with 5 more losses the record changes to 500 ball. Now tell me again how many games they are above 500?

How about you site an example where some article says a team is 4.5 games above .500. I've never seen it presented that way except when people like you try to argue that's how it is. Like never.

 

[RR7]

I guess the league needs to expand the season to 100 games then.

Only for a 50 win team to get to .500.

 

[illmatic99]

Okay. If you want to say a 50 win team at the end of the season is 18 over 500 i'm good with that. But no 18 more losses would not put them at 500. It would put them at 32 wins. and 50 losses. There are only 82 games in an NBA season.

Oh jeez, quit digging homie

 

[TBpup]

I feel like I need a tax refund from the money I'm paying that went to math/statistics education. If you are 20-20, your team is at .500. Win 10 games in a row and they are 30-20.....10 games over .500. At 30-20, if you lose 10 games in a row you are back to .500.....thereby you were 10 games over .500 before.

Not sure why this is so difficult. Props to @hoopsjock @RR7 and some others for paying attention in class.

 

[kjironman1]

In my very first post I said you were confusing games AHEAD of a .500 pace with games ABOVE .500. You said you weren't but this post proves otherwise. Jet is the one who argued your side while every other person in the forum had the correct way.

In your 50-32 example 32-32 becomes .500 not 41-41.

I guess i can agree with you on this. But i would say i am not confused here. A 500 pace is indeed what i am talking about and it holds true until the end of the season when they no longer play any more regular season games. Jet never even began to make sense Hoops. Jet was completely out of the box. This teams winning percentage right now is .600. they would have to lose 10 games to be a 500 team. That is certainly the case. So in that instance yes they are 10 games above 500.

 

[kjironman1]

I feel like I need a tax refund from the money I'm paying that went to math/statistics education. If you are 20-20, your team is at .500. Win 10 games in a row and they are 30-20.....10 games over .500. At 30-20, if you lose 10 games in a row you are back to .500.....thereby you were 10 games over .500 before.

Not sure why this is so difficult. Props to @hoopsjock @RR7 and some others for paying attention in class.

The point is they will indeed have to rework it when the season ends. There will only be 82 games played.

 

[RR7]

The point is they will indeed have to rework it when the season ends. There will only be 82 games played.

They don't need to rework it or add games to the season. It's the theoretical amount needed to get to .500

 

[BonesJones]

Games Above .500 = Wins - Losses
Games Below .500 = Losses - Wins

Different way of looking at the correct context - Games Above .500 references how many wins youd have to eliminate to get the record to .500.

In this case, we'd have to eliminate 10 of our wins. If we were 50-32, we'd have to eliminate 18 games.

Also at 50-32, we'd have to have won 9 less games and lost 9 more to be 41-41. (9+9=18).