Game Thread GAME# 51: HAWKS @ BLAZERS - JANUARY 26, 2019 - SATURDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

[DUB]

Yeah but in the day of internet it is impossible. Even LBJ and Kobe, two of the greatest of all time, got caught up in it. Both refused to shoot the ball in a playoff game just to prove a point....... after getting criticized about shooting too much.

Nah, social media isn't mandatory, and news websites are a waste of time reading about things that you can't change. You can block it all out if you really want to, and to stay mentally healthy, and get the best out of themselves, I think most professional athletes should.

James and Bryant are/were both so good that they could afford to get distracted by petty bullshit. Their egos are so big (necessarily so to be that good) that it probably fuelled them, I'm not sure the same is true of CJ.

 

[hoopsjock]

Yeah he isn't impressing me. And, we want to trade for him?

Did you only watch the 2nd half?

 

[ripcityboy]

It's obvious from the game that CJ works better when he's the primary playmaker. He covers so much ground. It just works better when everybody else is playing off the spacing he creates. Wihen Dame comes back I want to see what, his next game is like.

 

[hoopsjock]

Supposedly they want 1st round picks and the only 2 guys who aren’t FA at the end of the year are Hark and Prince. Not sure what they value a mid 20s first though.

Atlanta wants future picks, not any in this draft. They already have 5 picks in this draft.

 

[LayneStaley]

Atlanta wants future picks, not any in this draft. They already have 5 picks in this draft.

Even better, send them a 2020 pick.

 

[hoopsjock]

Even better, send them a 2020 pick.

I don't know if you saw but @Jade Falcon posted something he saw on reddit with the Hawks fans saying they'd do Harkless and Leonard for Lin, Prince, and Len with no picks involved! There is apparently someone on there claiming to have inside information that a deal is close. I want that to to be true so badly. If we pull that off without including a 1st Neil could use the 1st to dump Turner and go from zero to hero.

 

[LayneStaley]

I don't know if you saw but @Jade Falcon posted something he saw on reddit with the Hawks fans saying they'd do Harkless and Leonard for Lin, Prince, and Len with no picks involved! There is apparently someone on there claiming to have inside information that a deal is close. I want that to to be true so badly. If we pull that off without including a 1st Neil could use the 1st to dump Turner and go from zero to hero.

Not big on Len but yeah that would be a better deal.



Sign me up.

 

[Strenuus]

I don't know if you saw but @Jade Falcon posted something he saw on reddit with the Hawks fans saying they'd do Harkless and Leonard for Lin, Prince, and Len with no picks involved! There is apparently someone on there claiming to have inside information that a deal is close. I want that to to be true so badly. If we pull that off without including a 1st Neil could use the 1st to dump Turner and go from zero to hero.

Don't do this. I'm trying to sleep.

 

[Strenuus]

Not big on Len but yeah that would be a better deal.

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Sign me up.

-20 wins. No wonder Atlanta wants to do that....

 

[CupWizier]

I don't know if you saw but @Jade Falcon posted something he saw on reddit with the Hawks fans saying they'd do Harkless and Leonard for Lin, Prince, and Len with no picks involved! There is apparently someone on there claiming to have inside information that a deal is close. I want that to to be true so badly. If we pull that off without including a 1st Neil could use the 1st to dump Turner and go from zero to hero.

Fans don't make trades so it's irrelevant what a fan is willing to do

 

[SIeepwalker]

2 things

1. That Aminu interview about his broken finger was awesome. The guy is a fucking warrior

2. Someone tells CJ he can pass like that when Dame is playing too

 

[kjironman1]

-20 wins. No wonder Atlanta wants to do that....

I notice it also hurts the Blazers. Funny how a trade can hurt both teams but this one has found a way.....

 

[Hoopguru]

Prince didn't impress me last night or Len. I really don't think Prince is any better than AFA or Harmless. He looked awful slow and hesitant, wonder how his bb IQ is?

 

[TBpup]

Again it takes more than just two players for a team to succeed in the playoffs. You need a minimum of 4 offensive options IMO on the court together.

The Allen Iverson version of the 76'ers that made it to the Finals would probably disagree with that but that is a fairly isolated example.

 

[TBpup]

Not big on Len but yeah that would be a better deal.

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Sign me up.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ya8udqnj

Harkless/Leonard for Lin/Prince/Len does save the Blazers a good chunk of cap space next season while saving a few dollars this year. They could even re-sign Lin and save money because I doubt there is any way he gets $13M again. It seems like a fairly sideways move for Portland but from a financial standpoint, it helps. So it fits Neil in two ways:

• Cost cutting/tax saving move
• Acquiring a former high Lottery pick who is now not very good

 

[CupWizier]

But that may be even worse. He's not deciding to until it is only his show?

well the role he plays alongside Lillard is completely different than the role he plays when Lillard is sidelined. He doesn't handle the ball near as much when Lillard plays.

 

[CupWizier]

Then Dame doesn't have the ball in his hands enough. We are best when Dame has the ball and is facilitating the offense. CJ could play more pick and roll instead of iso but he wouldn't get enough possessions to be as productive as he was tonight. This game proves that CJ is better without Dame and we know that Dame would be better without CJ especially if CJ was replaced by a spot up shooter.

It proves only that McCollum can be the lead guard and do it successfully on occasion if Lillard isn't available. Reading anything more into it is like reading tea leaves.

 

[HailBlazers]

It's obvious from the game that CJ works better when he's the primary playmaker. He covers so much ground. It just works better when everybody else is playing off the spacing he creates. Wihen Dame comes back I want to see what, his next game is like.

So why can't CJ be the primary playmaker of the second unit and come off the bench? Million dollar question right there.

 

[TBpup]

Why can't CJ come anywhere near what he did last night when playing with Dame? Almost two totally different types of play.

 

[hoopsjock]

Fans don't make trades so it's irrelevant what a fan is willing to do

Cup, this is the kind of shit post that is really annoying. Everyone fucking knows fans don't make trades.

Some of us like discussing potential trades and it helps to get unbiased views of what our players are worth from other fan bases.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I don't know if you saw but @Jade Falcon posted something he saw on reddit with the Hawks fans saying they'd do Harkless and Leonard for Lin, Prince, and Len with no picks involved! There is apparently someone on there claiming to have inside information that a deal is close. I want that to to be true so badly. If we pull that off without including a 1st Neil could use the 1st to dump Turner and go from zero to hero.

I have to imagine that if we haven't heard anything on our end, then it's likely just some fan's fantasy. Perhaps he THINKS Atlanta's FO is talking to Neil.

 

[CupWizier]

Cup, this is the kind of shit post that is really annoying. Everyone fucking knows fans don't make trades.

Some of us like discussing potential trades and it helps to get unbiased views of what our players are worth from other fan bases.

They also don't set the value of a player.

You sure like to use the "fuck" word a lot. That hardly impresses me. Your constant badgering was old a long time ago. If you don't like what I post, then ignore it and move on rather than posting an attack at the poster. Respond to the post, not the poster.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

This was only one game; but should Stotts go back to when either Lillard or CJ was on the court the entire game? If this meant less time for Turner and more for Curry, I would like that.

 

[hoopsjock]

They also don't set the value of a player.

You sure like to use the "fuck" word a lot. That hardly impresses me. Your constant badgering was old a long time ago. If you don't like what I post, then ignore it and move on rather than posting an attack at the poster. Respond to the post, not the poster.

I did respond to the post and I don't give a fuck what you think of my language.

Seriously what the fuck is the point of your stupid posts? You constantly fight with people because your posts try to discourage discussion instead of feed them. This is a forum in which cussing is allowed and discussions are the basis of the forum's existence.

 

[stampedehero]

Cj gets his first triple double. (Source:ESPN)

 

[CupWizier]

I did respond to the post and I don't give a fuck what you think of my language.

Seriously what the fuck is the point of your stupid posts? You constantly fight with people because your posts try to discourage discussion instead of feed them. This is a forum in which cussing is allowed and discussions are the basis of the forum's existence.

Feel better now? Still not impressed as once again you are attacking the poster and not the post.

 

[rotary111]

So if we trade CJ is he gonna become the next Harden? A triple-double threat on a nightly basis after he finally gets to run his own team?

I guarantee you he THINKS he could do it.

 

[Chris Craig]

They also don't set the value of a player.

You sure like to use the "fuck" word a lot. That hardly impresses me. Your constant badgering was old a long time ago. If you don't like what I post, then ignore it and move on rather than posting an attack at the poster. Respond to the post, not the poster.

I did respond to the post and I don't give a fuck what you think of my language.

Seriously what the fuck is the point of your stupid posts? You constantly fight with people because your posts try to discourage discussion instead of feed them. This is a forum in which cussing is allowed and discussions are the basis of the forum's existence.

@CupWizier , he can use fuck or shit or damn or whatever cuss word he likes. This isn't a pg movie or kindergarten. Maybe you should take your own advice and if you don't like what he posts, ignore it and move on.

Where did exactly @hoopsjock attack you and not your posts?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

So if we trade CJ is he gonna become the next Harden? A triple-double threat on a nightly basis after he finally gets to run his own team?

I guarantee you he THINKS he could do it.

Can we find a GM who also thinks this?

 

[CupWizier]

@CupWizier , he can use fuck or shit or damn or whatever cuss word he likes. This isn't a pg movie or kindergarten. Maybe you should take your own advice and if you don't like what he posts, ignore it and move on.

Where did exactly @hoopsjock attack you and not your posts?

I'm not playing this game. It is very easy to circumvent the rules and attack posters making it seem like they are attacking the post but the message is very clear what the intent is. If you want to discuss it further we can take it to pm as this isn't the appropriate place for this type of discussion.