Game Thread GAME# 54: CELTICS @ BLAZERS - FEBRUARY 9, 2017 - THURSDAY, 7:30 PM (PST), TNT

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KingSpeed said:
Why should we have expected more? We knew who he was when we matched Brooklyn's offer. He hasn't underachieved.
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I just don't think he's taken the leap I expected this season but that's just me expecting more...I don't dislike Crabbe...he just seems like he needs some B vitamins sometimes
 
KingSpeed said:
Why should we have expected more? We knew who he was when we matched Brooklyn's offer. He hasn't underachieved.
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They were banking on his solid playoff run. He was extremely consistent and ended the year on a high note. He's regressed. Badly.
 
craigehlo said:
They were banking on his solid playoff run. He was extremely consistent and ended the year on a high note. He's regressed. Badly.
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How has he regressed? He's one of the best shooters in the NBA.
 
Five Second Violation said:
If Olshey trades our first round pick this year then he needs to be fired on the spot. And punched in the dick.
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Depends. I never really cared about the draft, especially picking outside of the top 10. If we can land an impact player for two firsts, I'm all over it.
 
Scalma said:
Vucevic would be awesome though, gives us a legit third scorer and a great rebounder. But it would require trading Plumlee and I can't see Olshey doing that.
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What does Orlando want for Vucevic?
 
Crabbe is incredibly one dimensional. Terrible defensive instincts, in spite of his length, and he's often a non factor on offense for entire games unless he hits an open jumper right away and develops a shooting rhythm.

We could be replacing his production with a couple of league minimum guys and we likely wouldn't be losing a whole lot.
 
craigehlo said:
They were banking on his solid playoff run. He was extremely consistent and ended the year on a high note. He's regressed. Badly.
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Yeah you were up Crabbe's ass all night. I don't think he played bad at all. And other than the two games against Dallas he has had a nice stretch of games. Yes he makes too much money. But has he really regressed?
 
Five Second Violation said:
If Olshey trades our first round pick this year then he needs to be fired on the spot. And punched in the dick.
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Yea, we need to spend 3 years developing rookies that likely won't pan out with the league's highest payroll and our two best players in their prime.
 
Five Second Violation said:
Crabbe is incredibly one dimensional. Terrible defensive instincts, in spite of his length, and he's often a non factor on offense for entire games unless he hits an open jumper right away and develops a shooting rhythm.

We could be replacing his production with a couple of league minimum guys and we likely wouldn't be losing a whole lot.
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Like who?
 
KingSpeed said:
Not sure why you expect him to somehow be a different player because we pay him more. That's not how it works.
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That's not what I was saying. I was saying I don't like paying that much for a player who only does what he does. So I would have liked to spend that money for more value. But I get the feeling we panicked because we thought we had a potential contender and we didn't want to lose pieces we thought were important. For the record, I like Crabbe.

This might not even matter if the cap keeps climbing so ridiculously high.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Why the f*** do you want to add more rookies with Dame and CJ in there prime... trade the picks or else you may as well trade Dame and CJ waiting on 19 year olds to develop
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More rookies? We haven't even had a first round pick who we have kept since C.J. in 2013. We're a lottery quality team this year and are starving for talent. You don't throw away lotto picks so you can chase flawed players like Vucevic, when you could be getting younger, cheap rookie contract talent. We need to develop through the draft now.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah you were up Crabbe's ass all night. I don't think he played bad at all. And other than the two games against Dallas he has had a nice stretch of games. Yes he makes too much money. But has he really regressed?
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Tonight he wasn't fighting to get open. He just looked like he wanted wide open 3's and didn't need to work on offense. Zero effort and hustle especially when you see how a dude like Marcus Smart gets after it.
 
LuckyShot said:
That's not what I was saying. I was saying I don't like paying that much for a player who only does what he does. So I would have liked to spend that money for more value. But I get the feeling we panicked because we thought we had a potential contender and we didn't want to lose pieces we thought were important. For the record, I like Crabbe.

This might not even matter if the cap keeps climbing so ridiculously high.
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Potential contender? We have the same team that you all expected to win 26 games last year. Not sure why you all suddenly expected us to win more this season with Evan Turner as the only major difference.
 
KingSpeed said:
Potential contender? We have the same team that you all expected to win 26 games last year. Not sure why you all suddenly expected us to win more this season with Evan Turner as the only major difference.
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I think it's pretty clear that our front office/ownership felt that way with the money they sank into this team.
 
43 points surrendered in the 4th.

How many 30+ points quarters has this team given up this year? How far above the league median are they? How many did they give up last year? These are questions I want answers to.
 
This Area 21 is the NBA on TNT equivalent of that show 2 Broke Girls.
 
LuckyShot said:
I think it's pretty clear that our front office/ownership felt that way with the money they sank into this team.
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We did it because they were young and we wanted to retain our assets. We could go over the cap to sign them but can't go over the cap to sign anyone else of note.
 
Bottom line Crabbe not the problem but he not worth 19 million dollars neither. We lost this game at the beginning of the 3rd QT when we came out flat the whole game turn from there even though we made runs at them but to me that was the turning point. 2nd why wasn't Harkless in there guarding Thomas he did a pretty good job on him in the 1st half.
 
Crabbe in the lineup with Dame, CJ, Mase and Chief outscored opponents 7.5 points per 100 possessions last season. That same lineup is a -10 this season.
 
LuckyShot said:
I think it's pretty clear that our front office/ownership felt that way with the money they sank into this team.
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I doubt they would behappy with the outcome regardless of the money. Fans seem to have a bigger issue with the contracts than ownership. Until the money is a problem, it's not really the problem. We will see how it effects us this summer. But the alternative was to simply not sign them. How would that makes us better now?
 
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