Game Thread GAME# 66: BLAZERS @ WARRIORS - MARCH 11, 2016 - FRIDAY, 7:30 PM (PST), CSNNW

[Draco]

There's a reason Olshey has targeted PFs in free agency..he'll keep fishing until he gets one. We in the era of young project bigs but Vonleh has lower body strength and length going for him

Why do you say he's targeted PF's? I think we might be fine there.

Ed Davis can play PF with a shooting center. Vonleh could develop and really doesn't fit anywhere else. Aminu can definitely play PF, in fact I believe its his best position. SF is the biggest need in my opinion.

Although if we do get a legit PF other guys can move to different positions so I suppose the main thing is acquire the best long term forward and have Stotts figure out lineups.

 

[riverman]

Right now Meyers is a bench player on a cheap contract who can help you win some games. People act like he's a max contract Chandler Parsons who's supposed to be a dominant player...he's not. We get that. He's on the last year of his contract. He might just be a Chandler Frye, Matt Bonner, Brian Scalabrine type guy for a long career...or he might become Peja Stoyokovic or Mike Miller..he's not going to become Drummond or Cousins

 

[Draco]

Right now Meyers is a bench player on a cheap contract who can help you win some games. People act like he's a max contract Chandler Parsons who's supposed to be a dominant player...he's not. We get that. He's on the last year of his contract. He might just be a Chandler Frye, Matt Bonner, Brian Scalabrine type guy for a long career...or he might become Peja Stoyokovic or Mike Miller..he's not going to become Drummond or Cousins

He's definitely not going to be Peja or Miller. Peja averaged 24ppg. Miller was rookie of the year. If you mean the 35 year old roll player versions of those guys; yeah maybe.

It would be excellent if Meyers can become Frye. He has a long ways to become that good; he's now at an age players don't improve much.

 

[noknobs]

He may not ever really acquire that skill. The ability to be a decent rebounder n the NBA level may not be in him. It's like that at every sport. Some guys can't hit a curveball. Some soccer players don't have the ability to dribble with pace. Once you get past a certain age if you don't pick up basics, you never will.

He had a team high 13 rebounds tonight. I'm not talking about rebounding. I'm talking about posting up guards, I'm talking about having gotten an offensive rebound with nobody in position to block you and not going up and dunking, choosing instead to pass it out. When you play basketball that's just instinctual. You go back up in that situation. Especially if you're 7 feet tall. I know he's got a different skill-set, but you need to at least have a basic comprehension of what happens when you're all alone under the basket with the ball. Other bigs with outside shots know this. 7 year olds know this. I don't think I'm asking to much of him.

 

[riverman]

Why do you say he's targeted PF's? I think we might be fine there.

Ed Davis can play PF with a shooting center. Vonleh could develop and really doesn't fit anywhere else. Aminu can definitely play PF, in fact I believe its his best position. SF is the biggest need in my opinion.

Although if we do get a legit PF other guys can move to different positions so I suppose the main thing is acquire the best long term forward and have Stotts figure out lineups.

He's made plays for Kanter and Monroe and was in talks at the deadline with the Bucks still trying to get Monroe..seems he wants a scoring PF and if that happens from within, great but we've seen a big drop off in double doubles from the 4 and 5 positions. It depends on how long you'd want to develop Vonleh and Leonard as two way players. Ed and Mason are solid guys who you can plug in for matchups but they will never command a double team in the post

 

[riverman]

He's definitely not going to be Peja or Miller. Peja averaged 24ppg. Miller was rookie of the year. If you mean the 35 year old roll player versions of those guys; yeah maybe.

It would be excellent if Meyers can become Frye. He has a long ways to become that good; he's now at an age players don't improve much.

I think he's improved a lot after a medium long slump awhile back but what he lacks is confidence at decision making..like many have pointed out..when he's 2 ft from the rim with a 6 ft guy guarding him he needs to dunk the ball instead of look around for 4 seconds trying to kick it out to a 3 pt shooter and I think he's got a beautiful shot from all over the perimeter..so he could be a 3 pt dagger like Peja or Miller if that's where he concentrates his game

 

[Draco]

He's made plays for Kanter and Monroe and was in talks at the deadline with the Bucks still trying to get Monroe..seems he wants a scoring PF and if that happens from within, great but we've seen a big drop off in double doubles from the 4 and 5 positions. It depends on how long you'd want to develop Vonleh and Leonard as two way players. Ed and Mason are solid guys who you can plug in for matchups but they will never command a double team in the post

Kanter and Monroe are centers.

 

[Draco]

I think he's improved a lot after a medium long slump awhile back but what he lacks is confidence at decision making..like many have pointed out..when he's 2 ft from the rim with a 6 ft guy guarding him he needs to dunk the ball instead of look around for 4 seconds trying to kick it out to a 3 pt shooter and I think he's got a beautiful shot from all over the perimeter..so he could be a 3 pt dagger like Peja or Miller if that's where he concentrates his game

His release is way to slow; Meyers could never have a usage rate anywhere close to Peja.

 

[Eastoff]

Probably an image i don't want to have lodged in my mind but yes i agree.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

 

[Blazers Roy]

lol at Steve Kerr for playing stephoon and clay vs Roberts and Pat on the front-end of a back to back.

Their home games are the biggest circle jerk in existence, it's nearly unwatchable imo.
Curry makes a simple lay up when they're up by 30 and the crowd goes insane like it's the greatest thing ever. Henderson made a hop to Iggy to close him out and he tripped then you literally see white people do 360jumps from their seats like they've seen the greatest move from Rafer Alston or something.

 

[kjironman1]

lol at Steve Kerr for playing stephoon and clay vs Roberts and Pat on the front-end of a back to back.

Their home games are the biggest circle jerk in existence, it's nearly unwatchable imo.
Curry makes a simple lay up when they're up by 30 and the crowd goes insane like it's the greatest thing ever. Henderson made a hop to Iggy to close him out and he tripped then you literally see white people do 360jumps from their seats like they've seen the greatest move from Rafer Alston or something.

I would love to see "White People" do 360 jumps other than at a Trump rally.....

 

[BBert]

Gee...good thing we cut that guy and kept our 7-1 SG, huh?

We had to cut Varejao. Wookee doesn't like him.

 

[BBert]

nah..not anymore..my son played pickup hoops with his cousins in Taipei against guys from all over the pacific and told me everybody was wearing Warriors gear and he's the biggest name over there...same with my New Zealand cousins..Lakers are old news

Lakers...Warriors..bandwagonners make me sick to my stomach. I know it's a mental defect, which makes them a protected class, and I should really feel sorry for them, but I can't. They could at least try to get better, at least try not to be insufferable douches, but they don't make any effort to overcome their psychological weakness. Fuck them.

 

[riverman]

Kanter and Monroe are centers.

that's debateable...Monroe played PF his whole career with Drummond at the 5 and Kanter plays both...the difference between center and power forward sort of disappeared with Tim Duncan...listed as a PF but playing center most games. So forgetting those definitions, Olshey has targeted bigs in free agency more often than not.

 

[Draco]

that's debateable...Monroe played PF his whole career with Drummond at the 5 and Kanter plays both...the difference between center and power forward sort of disappeared with Tim Duncan...listed as a PF but playing center most games. So forgetting those definitions, Olshey has targeted bigs in free agency more often than not.

Monroe was on the Pistons as a center for years before Drummond was drafted. Kanter was a center for Utah and normally is for OKC.

Our best players are two PG's and two centers so it doesn't make sense to primarly target a player that plays those positions. Label those guys bigs or PF or C; its not our most critical need. We desperately need better wing play. Wings often have to play at PF in today's game as well.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

lol at Steve Kerr for playing stephoon and clay vs Roberts and Pat on the front-end of a back to back.

Their home games are the biggest circle jerk in existence, it's nearly unwatchable imo.
Curry makes a simple lay up when they're up by 30 and the crowd goes insane like it's the greatest thing ever. Henderson made a hop to Iggy to close him out and he tripped then you literally see white people do 360jumps from their seats like they've seen the greatest move from Rafer Alston or something.

Warrior home games are so like the church scene in Borat lol

 

[oldmangrouch]

Warrior home games are so like the church scene in Borat lol