Game Thread GAME# 7: BLAZERS @ WARRIORS - NOVEMBER 4, 2019 - MONDAY, 7:30 PM, NBATV & NBCSNW

[Shaboid]

CJ McCollum

I see that Hood, Tolliver, and Bazemore were 5-23 also. That is pretty terrible.

 

[Chris Craig]

I see that Hood, Tolliver, and Bazemore were 5-23 also. That is pretty terrible.

Tolliver and Bazemore are going to be terrible anyway. Hood is still nursing injuries, he wasn't all there. CJ has no excuse.

 

[bobf]

The question is:

Was this game entertaining?

For Warrior fans mabye.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

With the injuries and this game, I'm really wondering....... Make this a developmental year. First of course, trade CJ as soon as possible so Ant can play 30+ minutes a game. Play Little and Skal 30 minutes a game. Play Hezonja a lot until you can decide if he is really an NBA rotational player or not. Hell, trade Whiteside sooner than later and let Moses Brown play. Keep Bazemore until the trading deadline; if he can't correct his mental mistakes by then, trade him.
Probably an overreaction, but that's just how I feel today. Would Lillard freak out?

 

[Tince]

With the injuries and this game, I'm really wondering....... Make this a developmental year. First of course, trade CJ as soon as possible so Ant can play 30+ minutes a game. Play Little and Skal 30 minutes a game. Play Hezonja a lot until you can decide if he is really an NBA rotational player or not. Hell, trade Whiteside sooner than later and let Moses Brown play. Keep Bazemore until the trading deadline; if he can't correct his mental mistakes by then, trade him.
Probably an overreaction, but that's just how I feel today. Would Lillard freak out?

CJ's contract is not tradable unfortunately.

 

[Blazinaway]

That was ugly, unfortunately think its going to be a long very frustrating season

 

[THE HCP]

I disagree completely with this. The refs definitely impacted the game last night. It was still a disgusting loss though. Stotts didn't have the team ready to play.

Looked like the more aggressive team got the benefit of the calls.

 

[HailBlazers]

Looked like the more aggressive team got the benefit of the calls.

Say that to Dames face?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Say that to Dames face?

He's too short.

 

[calvin natt]

I think we are seeing some real recency bias here with regards to Aminu/Hark vs Bazemore/Hood, in that Aminu and Hark drove people NUTS last year but now we need them back or the season is lost. I feel like three weeks ago anyone with more than ten brain cells knew this team would need months to become a unit, with so many new faces. Here we are 7 games in and everyone has amnesia. If they are still a circus in January, they've got a real problem and the trade deadline arrives.

 

[DDolla]

I think we are seeing some real recency bias here with regards to Aminu/Hark vs Bazemore/Hood, in that Aminu and Hark drove people NUTS last year but now we need them back or the season is lost. I feel like three weeks ago anyone with more than ten brain cells knew this team would need months to become a unit, with so many new faces. Here we are 7 games in and everyone has amnesia. If they are still a circus in January, they've got a real problem and the trade deadline arrives.

We all know that but this team should beat 9 GLeague Players with an AllStar player and leader like Dame

 

[THE HCP]

I think we are seeing some real recency bias here with regards to Aminu/Hark vs Bazemore/Hood, in that Aminu and Hark drove people NUTS

We really miss their defense.

 

[calvin natt]

We all know that but this team should beat 9 GLeague Players with an AllStar player and leader like Dame

And we all know this as well, but this is sports. Teams lose. The Warriors will win another game. I think the Suns swept the Bucks last season - the best/worst teams in the league. Shit happens. Doesnt mean its OK Portland lost, they should have won the game. I think it might end up being a good thing for them.

 

[gatorpops]

Hood has been good this season other than struggling tonight. I definitely think he's a starter level player on this team.

Tolliver should be a situational 3 point specialist at this point in his career, definitely not starter quality.

Hood was probably still hurting from last game! He just did not have any energy. Those fall were hard. He played but was just not at full strength.

 

[kjironman1]

With the injuries and this game, I'm really wondering....... Make this a developmental year. First of course, trade CJ as soon as possible so Ant can play 30+ minutes a game. Play Little and Skal 30 minutes a game. Play Hezonja a lot until you can decide if he is really an NBA rotational player or not. Hell, trade Whiteside sooner than later and let Moses Brown play. Keep Bazemore until the trading deadline; if he can't correct his mental mistakes by then, trade him.
Probably an overreaction, but that's just how I feel today. Would Lillard freak out?

So you want to make sure we get a good draft pick like the Warriors are gonna get?

 

[kjironman1]

I think we are seeing some real recency bias here with regards to Aminu/Hark vs Bazemore/Hood, in that Aminu and Hark drove people NUTS last year but now we need them back or the season is lost. I feel like three weeks ago anyone with more than ten brain cells knew this team would need months to become a unit, with so many new faces. Here we are 7 games in and everyone has amnesia. If they are still a circus in January, they've got a real problem and the trade deadline arrives.

Not exactly sure who it was but someone called me crazy for saying this would happen.
Wait... Yep I’m sure who it was but let’s just leave it at that.

 

[HailBlazers]

We really miss their defense.

Knew we would.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

The Santa Cruz Warriors.

FOR SHAME!

 

[PCmor7]

Seth got a 4 year $32 million contract. Seems like Dallas wanted him.

Two things:

1) Dallas is one team. Not the entire NBA. He isn't starting there. He wasn't commanding all this interest. One does not equal a great deal of interest.

2) Maybe I am wrong about this, but is $8 million a year a lot in the current NBA? Weren't we paying Meyers like $10-11 million a year? I mean, if people want to say Curry getting what he did to be a back-up in an organization he already played in once that let him go, does it mean Meyers was an even better player because we paid more money to keep him?

 

[hoopsjock]

Two things:

1) Dallas is one team. Not the entire NBA. He isn't starting there. He wasn't commanding all this interest. One does not equal a great deal of interest.

2) Maybe I am wrong about this, but is $8 million a year a lot in the current NBA? Weren't we paying Meyers like $10-11 million a year? I mean, if people want to say Curry getting what he did to be a back-up in an organization he already played in once that let him go, does it mean Meyers was an even better player because we paid more money to keep him?

Completely different circumstances. We didn't own the rights to retain Curry for any more than the tax-MLE or a minimum contract. Meyers was a restricted free agent coming off his rookie deal. Not a good comparison.

 

[kjironman1]

Two things:

1) Dallas is one team. Not the entire NBA. He isn't starting there. He wasn't commanding all this interest. One does not equal a great deal of interest.

2) Maybe I am wrong about this, but is $8 million a year a lot in the current NBA? Weren't we paying Meyers like $10-11 million a year? I mean, if people want to say Curry getting what he did to be a back-up in an organization he already played in once that let him go, does it mean Meyers was an even better player because we paid more money to keep him?

Two good points. I can’t say you are wrong. 8 million doesn’t really seem like a bunch in today’s NBA. But it was more that the Blazers could offer.
Probably right not every team needed him but I’m pretty sure he would have gotten more offers had he not taken that one with Dallas. It was a good spot and Carlisle runs a similar offense to Stotts that he could do well in.
He was never a number a #1,2,3 talent that was going to draw attention but he was gonna get paid. We all knew it.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

So you want to make sure we get a good draft pick like the Warriors are gonna get?

I wasn't really thinking about that; I just want to revamp the team and try to make it stronger, while two key players heal. Maybe more watchable, for me at least.

 

[Labinot41]

Two good points. I can’t say you are wrong. 8 million doesn’t really seem like a bunch in today’s NBA. But it was more that the Blazers could offer.
Probably right not every team needed him but I’m pretty sure he would have gotten more offers had he not taken that one with Dallas. It was a good spot and Carlisle runs a similar offense to Stotts that he could do well in.
He was never a number a #1,2,3 talent that was going to draw attention but he was gonna get paid. We all knew it.

Also Seth probably didnt like it in Portland to be behind Dame and CJ, i mean he struggled to get shots, as one of the best 3 point shooter in the league, jason quick wrote that curry for long time didn't know what his role was, i remember how many times he was wide open with outstretched arms and the players didn't pass to him, i'm sure he was frustrated here

 

[kjironman1]

Also Seth probably didnt like it in Portland to be behind Dame and CJ, i mean he struggled to get shots, as one of the best 3 point shooter in the league, jason quick wrote that curry for long time didn't know what his role was, i remember how many times he was wide open with outstretched arms and the players didn't pass to him, i'm sure he was frustrated here

He isn't starting in Dallas either.

 

[SIeepwalker]

First play of the game: "He hasn't made a 3 yet this season... UNTIL NOW !!!"

I thought, well that's Portland playing against scrubs in a nutshell.




I didn't want to be right though,

 

[KingSpeed]

Stop the hyperbolic nonsense. You aren't that clueless. You know what I mean. He's a good player but not anything great. There were teams with more money than us willing to sign him. But he wasn't this great free agent target.

People liked him here because he was good and a good fit. Is Simons going to be better than him in a year or two? I'd say almost absolutely.

I made a clear point that Curry had a player option and would’ve stayed with us if he had no other offers. I don’t think you know what hyperbolic means.

 

[hoopsjock]

I made a clear point that Curry had a player option and would’ve stayed with us if he had no other offers. I don’t think you know what hyperbolic means.

Curry actually didn't have a player option. It was first reported that he did and there was confusion most of the year if he did or didn't but then towards the end of the year both he and the team clarified that he didn't.

Also, player options have to be picked up or declined before free agency so he might not have fully known the interest level.

 

[Propagandist]

I still can't get my head around this game/season...

 

[kjironman1]

Curry actually didn't have a player option. It was first reported that he did and there was confusion most of the year if he did or didn't but then towards the end of the year both he and the team clarified that he didn't.

Also, player options have to be picked up or declined before free agency so he might not have fully known the interest level.

Fact still remains. He did pretty well and he got in with a good fit for himself. i guess $8 million over four years fits in my book.

 

[hoopsjock]

Fact still remains. He did pretty well and he got in with a good fit for himself. i guess $8 million over four years fits in my book.

Yup, as you mentioned we couldn't come close to matching that offer (most we could offer is $5.7 million) so we had no chance to keep him.