Game Thread GAME# 8: TIMBERWOLVES @ BLAZERS - JANUARY 7, 2021 - THURSDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

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Who's the biggest ball hog on the Blazers?


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Just curious, what do you think of this coach with the following past 6 seasons with the same team:

43% playoff winning percentage
Averaged 1 all-star per season (1 season with 2 all-stars)
1 conference final
1 semi final
3 first round
1 missed playoffs

Time to fire him?

You keep saying you're impartial but almost all of your posts in regards to Stotts is defending him and why "coaching doesn't matter."
 
You keep saying you're impartial but almost all of your posts in regards to Stotts is defending him and why "coaching doesn't matter."

If I said I'm impartial (didn't think I did), I probably used the wrong word. Neither of us are impartial, we're fans.

I do challenge theories that use specific criteria that "prove" Stotts sucks. I'm assuming people don't only post things on here to have people agree with them, I certainly don't mind being challenged, and you've proven you're open to a good debate for the most part as well!
 
I think where we disagree is you think a coaches record should be looked at without regard to the number of top level players on his roster. I think roster talent plays a HUGE role in the success of teams/coaches.

where we disagree is that I think 8+ years and 712 games of Stotts establishes what his strengths and weaknesses are. That the Blazers have become static and stagnant under Stotts. He's not going to surprise us on defense or on offense. He won't hold his core players accountable. I look at that and say it's long past time for a change

as far as the roster issues, I've been calling for Olshey to be fired for 4-5 years
 
where we disagree is that I think 8+ years and 712 games of Stotts establishes what his strengths and weaknesses are. That the Blazers have become static and stagnant under Stotts. He's not going to surprise us on defense or on offense. He won't hold his core players accountable. I look at that and say it's long past time for a change

as far as the roster issues, I've been calling for Olshey to be fired for 4-5 years

I agree it would be crazy to think Stotts would be a different coach after 8 years. I don't think 7 straight playoff appearance and 4 series wins is unacceptable given the talent.
 
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Dude you dissapear each time the Blazers lose. Why should i wake up in the middle of the night to watch a game against the worst team in the league? For sure the Blazers won but this game was pretty much meaningless. And yeah Stotts is stil a bad coach, you must be pretty dumb or the biggest homer if you really think that a W against the Timberwolves without Towns change anything than what we have seen in the past few years from Stotts, his coaching sucks come playoff time, Dame makes him look good when he goes supernova but if you look at the schemes you will see that Stotts isn't a good Coach, but that's probably too hard for you.
"Disappear"? "Pretty Dumb"? You came out swinging didn't you?
Kid, this win meant nothing more than the Laker win or the Bulls loss. It's one game.
Learn your place here before making claims about me and calling names.
 
"Disappear"? "Pretty Dumb"? You came out swinging didn't you?
Kid, this win meant nothing more than the Laker win or the Bulls loss. It's one game.
Learn your place here before making claims about me and calling names.
Nope Sir, you are the one who should learn to pay attention to the game. Terry Stott's drop defensive scheme was stil the same, they hit 18/41 threes which is about 44%. And they probably missed 5-10 open ones. We just happened to play the worst team in the league so i take the W but you won't go far with that in the Playoffs. We stil have only one defensive scheme (which sucks in 90% btw) and that's going to be a big issue come playoff time
 
Nope Sir, you are the one who should learn to pay attention to the game. Terry Stott's drop defensive scheme was stil the same, they hit 18/41 threes which is about 44%. And they probably missed 5-10 open ones. We just happened to play the worst team in the league so i take the W but you won't go far with that in the Playoffs. We stil have only one defensive scheme (which sucks in 90% btw) and that's going to be a big issue come playoff time
Who said any of that wasn't true?
 
Yet you come out claiming I disappear and I'm dumb. A lot of accusations aimed my way bro.
 
And to claim I need to pay attention during the games...... haven't missed one since the late 90s......and trust me, I'm watching.
 
Nope Sir, you are the one who should learn to pay attention to the game. Terry Stott's drop defensive scheme was stil the same, they hit 18/41 threes which is about 44%. And they probably missed 5-10 open ones. We just happened to play the worst team in the league so i take the W but you won't go far with that in the Playoffs. We stil have only one defensive scheme (which sucks in 90% btw) and that's going to be a big issue come playoff time

These are the statements that make me look like a Stotts apologist. In reality, I'm just putting out things that are not factual.

Go back and watch the Houston games from last year and compare that to our defense against the Lakers this year and telling me those are the same defensive schemes. They are not.
 
Nope Sir, you are the one who should learn to pay attention to the game. Terry Stott's drop defensive scheme was stil the same, they hit 18/41 threes which is about 44%. And they probably missed 5-10 open ones. We just happened to play the worst team in the league so i take the W but you won't go far with that in the Playoffs. We stil have only one defensive scheme (which sucks in 90% btw) and that's going to be a big issue come playoff time
Funniest part of this post to me is that it is almost word for word from what another poster says almost nightly on another venue. He happens to be the same person who you flat out copied like two games ago and got called out for it.

At least try to come up with something relatively original or just admit you are actually that poster if that is the case.

Even worse is that your idea of what is happening on the court is almost completely wrong but don't let that stop you. Keep saying it until people agree with you.
 
You keep saying you're impartial but almost all of your posts in regards to Stotts is defending him and why "coaching doesn't matter."
People come across as “an apologist” if they reply to a post that slams Stotts with anything that isn’t in line with that, people think we love Stotts.
 
People come across as “an apologist” if they reply to a post that slams Stotts with anything that isn’t in line with that, people think we love Stotts.

apologist is on the opposite side of the coin from hater
 
It don't matter what defense you throw out it really comes down to are we active by doing it by getting hands in passing lanes and by angles. away from the offense players and when you challenge the shooter with your hand up so they don't have clear look. You also you must be able be a good defense rebound team. I haven't looked up how many offense rebounds we giving up per game but he going to be pretty close 10 or more and they score that's 20 plus points. Defense takes a lot energy and effort you got to want to do it. The you must work as a team because it's really hard shut down someone by yourself.
 
Isn’t this a personal attack? Reading the rules, isn’t it attack the post but not the poster?

This was not the first, nor will it be the last, but this is how it goes. I do not take his attacks on my character personally. I understand that the way I make my points can be frustrating and people have different ways of responding when they're frustrated.

I would love if we could strongly disagree about our positions and not attack each other directly as I think it would allow many of the lurkers around here to feel more comfortable to express their opinions. I'm sure my style of posting wears on people as well (especially those who don't like data) and I'm trying to be more gentle.
 
This was not the first, nor will it be the last, but this is how it goes. I do not take his attacks on my character personally. I understand that the way I make my points can be frustrating and people have different ways of responding when they're frustrated.

I would love if we could strongly disagree about our positions and not attack each other directly as I think it would allow many of the lurkers around here to feel more comfortable to express their opinions. I'm sure my style of posting wears on people as well (especially those who don't like data) and I'm trying to be more gentle.

lol..."gentle posting"...at S2? Will you chill your Chablis before?
 
Funniest part of this post to me is that it is almost word for word from what another poster says almost nightly on another venue. He happens to be the same person who you flat out copied like two games ago and got called out for it.

At least try to come up with something relatively original or just admit you are actually that poster if that is the case.

Even worse is that your idea of what is happening on the court is almost completely wrong but don't let that stop you. Keep saying it until people agree with you.
KJ, i'm not Eric lol. Just because we have the same opinion about Stotts doesn't mean we are the same person :D keep in mind that english is not my first language, otherwise i would have said it in my own words.
 
KJ, i'm not Eric lol. Just because we have the same opinion about Stotts doesn't mean we are the same person :D keep in mind that english is not my first language, otherwise i would have said it in my own words.
I already know you are not Hoops. The point is more aligned with repeating him almost word for word mixed with the "drop scheme" defense. You do understand basketball i presume? So you would also understand every team uses one of as many as 20 different "Drop Scheme" type defenses depending on the mobility of the players involved. Even the Lakers with Anthony Davis use a "Drop Scheme" . They also hedge just as much as the Blazers. The difference is they have a much more athletic center that can use lateral quickness and they have arguably the highest BBIQ to ever play the game along side of him. Go watch the Clippers, Warriors, Rockets and even the Jazz. They are all using it at some point in one form or another.
The next issue is the statement or thought that this is the exact same defense this team has played for many years. It absolutely is not the same as last year with the players they had. It is absolutely not the same as the year before with the players they had which was different again from the year before with the players we were playing then as well. Again i presume you know basketball so if you would like to do a little of your own research and prove me wrong then so be it.
 
keep in mind that english is not my first language, otherwise i would have said it in my own words.
Also anytime you begin to get frustrated about language please be assured we all respect and support you here and will never give you grief for that issue. If you would like you are also more than welcome to post in your native language to me and i will put in the effort to translate as best as i can.
 
Very fair opinion.

I would expect guys like Rick Adelman who had triple the all-stars on his roster to have a better winning percentage. MVPs and multiple all-stars appears to be a trend for most the coaches with very high playoff winning percentages.

I think where we disagree is you think a coaches record should be looked at without regard to the number of top level players on his roster. I think roster talent plays a HUGE role in the success of teams/coaches.

I've never understood the "triple the all-stars" bit. That was back when all-stars actually picked a center. They don't do that anymore and instead often pick 3 forwards or 3 guards. Honestly, who is the better center, Duck or Nurk? Same with CJ vs Porter? Drexler was a runner up MVP to the Goat which is much higher than I ever expect Dame will finish.

The may be an argument either way, but those players got all-star selections BECAUSE the team was winning and going deep into the Playoffs. That gets you more recognition. The Blazers seemingly get off to a slow start almost every year (which hurts voting for a mid-season all-star game) and then are most often out in the first round and also often swept. That is not going to get a fringe player (like Porter) or even a not really fringe player (like Duck) many votes if that were the case back then.

Adelman was a much better coach (the NBA is still using some of the things he ran) and some people forget how good and how much of a physical presence Clyde was. Yes, some people don't like how he left, but when you rise to the level of runner up MVP to the Greatest of All Time, that is quite the level of achievment.
 
I've never understood the "triple the all-stars" bit. That was back when all-stars actually picked a center. They don't do that anymore and instead often pick 3 forwards or 3 guards. Honestly, who is the better center, Duck or Nurk? Same with CJ vs Porter? Drexler was a runner up MVP to the Goat which is much higher than I ever expect Dame will finish.

The may be an argument either way, but those players got all-star selections BECAUSE the team was winning and going deep into the Playoffs. That gets you more recognition. The Blazers seemingly get off to a slow start almost every year (which hurts voting for a mid-season all-star game) and then are most often out in the first round and also often swept. That is not going to get a fringe player (like Porter) or even a not really fringe player (like Duck) many votes if that were the case back then.

Adelman was a much better coach (the NBA is still using some of the things he ran) and some people forget how good and how much of a physical presence Clyde was. Yes, some people don't like how he left, but when you rise to the level of runner up MVP to the Greatest of All Time, that is quite the level of achievment.
All star teams really about popularity for the starters and the big market has the advantage. Then I believe the coaches pick the rest of the team and those goes which teams are playing the best at the time. So you probably will never see 2 players on the blazers on all star team but the only way maybe if we was 1st place in the league.
 
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