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If you could count Pendergraph, we would be number one! Oh, thats a bad thing..Yeah, it stinks, but it is what it is. Some day a season ending injury will be a cause of alarm, rather thann a matter of our day to day operations.
 
man we have had a run of bad luck for a couple of years here that any other team would have just relocated by now
 
Roy's stats say he's played 44 games this year, but we'd have a much better record if he'd never suited up at all. :(
 
mook said:
Roy's stats say he's played 44 games this year, but we'd have a much better record if he'd never suited up at all. :(
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that might actually be true, which is beyond depressing
 
3RA1N1AC said:
that might actually be true, which is beyond depressing
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Oh, it is definitely true and it is definitely depressing. Our first 19 games we went .421 as we tried to get Roy going. We lost to New Orleans twice, Utah, New Jersey, Philly, Washington--some pretty mediocre teams. By far the worst stretch of the season. Roy has done nothing since then to make up for that.

All season we've been digging ourselves out of that early hole. We'd have a lock on the 5th seed right now if we'd only played those early games at the same .627 pace we've had for the rest of the year.
 
You don't really believe we would have the 5th seed wrapped up had Roy NOT played all season, do you?
 
mook said:
Oh, it is definitely true and it is definitely depressing. Our first 19 games we went .421 as we tried to get Roy going. We lost to New Orleans twice, Utah, New Jersey, Philly, Washington--some pretty mediocre teams. By far the worst stretch of the season. Roy has done nothing since then to make up for that.

All season we've been digging ourselves out of that early hole. We'd have a lock on the 5th seed right now if we'd only played those early games at the same .627 pace we've had for the rest of the year.
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i guess i really dont see the benefit of having a "lock" on the 5th seed as opposed to 6th-8th, im not afraid of any of these teams 1-4
 
HCP said:
You don't really believe we would have the 5th seed wrapped up had Roy NOT played all season, do you?
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Sadly, yes I really do. This team wasted a lot of time searching for answers with Roy early on. It was a major distraction. Somewhat similar to the whole Carmello fiasco in Denver, although this was about injury and not a guy trying to force his way out of town. But it's the same impact --a superstar who isn't fitting in.

Aldridge only really took over this team when it became clear Roy was never going to be a star in this league again. That's when the team really adopted its true identity.

I'm not happy about it. Roy has been one of my favorite Blazers of all time. But it's the truth.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
i guess i really dont see the benefit of having a "lock" on the 5th seed as opposed to 6th-8th, im not afraid of any of these teams 1-4
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I agree--there's not a huge difference in the likely playoff outcome for this team.

But I like watching our team compete, building for the future. That first quarter of the season it seemed like it was sliding slowly backward into the lottery. Matthews sucked, Aldridge was flat, Roy was sucking.....it was really pretty rudderless.

I'm so glad we finally got out of that. I'm pretty optimistic about the future. Maybe not ecstatic, but certainly more enthusiastic than I was at any point in November.

There have been three phases to this season:
1. Roy sucking, and dragging everyone down with him
2. Aldridge emerging as a dominant player, with Matthews more than living up to his contract
3. Integrating Gerald Wallace without losing everything Batum brings to the table.

I'm pretty cool with where we are now.
 
yeah, there was a dark cloud over the team this november/december for sure, and i do like where we are now...just amazing to think that we would be where we are without roy and oden, whom i thought were our only hope to be a good team
 
Take arguably the 2 best players off of EVERY roster in the NBA and see how those team's seasons turn out.
 
I was thinking yesterday, this team has had an injury-riddled "franchise" center every decade of its existence.
 
Sabonis........ a "franchise" center! Fuck off with that! Maybe in the late 80's. He came to us washed up and injured. What he did for us was awesome, but once he came to us he was a long long way away from being considered a "franchise" center!
 
Sabonis had the highest PER of all the regular rotation guys in both years the team made the WCF. Even as a shell of his former self he was a franchise center, Fams. Learn the game. Post.
 
andalusian said:
Sabonis had the highest PER of all the regular rotation guys in both years the team made the WCF. Even as a shell of his former self he was a franchise center, Fams. Learn the game. Post.
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He played on shitty teams his first few years, big deal. I am as big a Sabonis fan as there is, but nobody with any knowledge of the game would have ever called him an NBA franchise center by the time he got over here. 90's franchise centers included Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, David Robinson. Sabonis was nowhere near their level.
 
HCP said:
90's franchise centers included Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, David Robinson. Sabonis was nowhere near their level.
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Those were four of the 6 or 7 best centers of all-time. By any other decade's standard, Sabonis was a franchise center even at his reduced abilities.
 
HCP said:
He played on shitty teams his first few years, big deal. I am as big a Sabonis fan as there is, but nobody with any knowledge of the game would have ever called him an NBA franchise center by the time he got over here. 90's franchise centers included Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, David Robinson. Sabonis was nowhere near their level.
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During the 3 best years of his NBA career with the Blazers (97-8 to 99-00) there were only a handful of centers in the league that had a better PER than him. Shaq (best in the league, by far), David Robinson, Mourning and Hakeem. Of those David Robinson and Shaq won one ring each and made it to the WCF once each, Sabas made it to the WCF twice but never advanced.

Dude was 4th or 5th best center in the NBA during this brief run with his body broken down and him being 33 - 35. Do not know what else you want to call that. He was Portland's franchise center at the time. Simple as that.
 
yeah even at his reduced ability, he was a top 5 center in the league, and it sucks when a top 5 center in the league goes down to an injury
 
HCP said:
Take arguably the 2 best players off of EVERY roster in the NBA and see how those team's seasons turn out.
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Nuggets got rid of Melo and Billups and are 15-4 since!
 
HCP said:
He played on shitty teams his first few years, big deal. I am as big a Sabonis fan as there is, but nobody with any knowledge of the game would have ever called him an NBA franchise center by the time he got over here. 90's franchise centers included Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, David Robinson. Sabonis was nowhere near their level.
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Agreed. And no one ever says anything about it but Sabonis completely choked in Game 7 of the 2000 WCFs.
 
andalusian said:
He was Portland's franchise center at the time. Simple as that.
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So was Mychal Thompson and Theo Ratliff at one time. Just because he was our best center does not label him a franchise player. Like I said before, had he come over healthy in the mid to late 80's you would have an argument because he would have torn up the league.
 
Oh man, imagine Sabonis and Aldridge playing together... I said a few weeks back, the Blazers should look to identifying a replacement for Camby, possibly dangling Oden for a Kevin Love type talent. Someone that can pass and shoot from the high post, primarily. Anything else is a bonus. If only Sabonis were 15 years younger. That would be a dream pairing.
 
HCP said:
So was Mychal Thompson and Theo Ratliff at one time. Just because he was our best center does not label him a franchise player. Like I said before, had he come over healthy in the mid to late 80's you would have an argument because he would have torn up the league.
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HCP, you can't possibly be comparing even an injury reduced Sabonis to Thompson and Ratliff. Sabonis today would still have a better PER than either of those two.
 
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